TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

[arielilane]

I think this statement (parking in the garage) has never been accompanied with any kind of an official link. My family would also say stuff that I "always" do - while I might do these things on most days, it's rarely so black-and-white.

Why I find this statement fishy is that we have the doorbell footage of Liz going to Starbucks in the morning. And she goes to a car that is parked outside, not in the garage. And when she returns, she again parks outside, not in the garage.

Maybe she did park in the garage 95% of days. But we have video proof that she did not do that always. Moreover, the killer might be totally unaware of her parking habits 95% of the days if the killer drove by 2 AM and saw Liz's car parked outside.

MOO

Nice post, @Sjöberg. Appreciate your posts. Not sure if it's considered official or if it is helpful; however, I've linked the parents' video below. BN is Liz's dad. If interested, please reference video at timestamp @10:57.

@8:46 BN: The Orlando trip was one of several trips that they had planned and budgeted for because they really loved doing it.

@9:33 Beginning talks about the garage sale

@10:57 BN: So what Liz always did when she left the house was her car was in the garage - she would go out to the car, lock the door, set the alarm and then she’d start her car up. Lock the doors, open the garage door and back out.

The day of the garage sale. That abundance of caution led her to set the alarm in the house on instant trigger and leave the door from the garage into the house unlocked. I can only say this was in case she needed a quick retreat. That she knew if she could get to the door and pop it open the alarm would instantly go off.

KHOU 11 exclusive: Parents of Elizabeth Barraza talk about their daughter's death and investigation​

 

[cckp72]

Im part way through thread 5 where there was some discussion around the burglary that had taken place 3 years earlier in their condo/apartment. Do we know anything about this burglary ? Apparently it was quite a feat, since the Barazza's lived on the 3rd floor.

First, do we have any idea what what stolen and any items of value that didn't get stolen?
2. Were the Barazza's home when it happened ? I assume yes but don't know for fact.
3. If Barazza's were home, was there any struggle ?
4. Was the perp arrested and convicted ? If so, do we know any specific motive other robbery ? Ie robbery of a certain item or wanted to attack Liz?
5. If he was arrested,is he still in jail or has been resleased?

Sorry if all been covered in the last 1.5 threads I need to get caught up on, but i didn't want to wait to pose thesw questions.

 

[Sjöberg]

2. Were the Barazza's home when it happened ? I assume yes but don't know for fact.

Oh, for some reason I assumed the other way round - but I also have no data whatsoever.
Was the idea that they were at home based on something in the charges or the comments the family made? I'd just be interested to learn more.

 

[arielilane]

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EB's donor gifts speak of the truest form of generosity and consideration of others.
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01/29/2019 = Tuesday

• Early Morning [Approximately 03:00 AM] The Transplant team comes to take Elizabeth down for donation. Her Parents, Brother, Sister-in-Law, Sergio, his mother Margarita, and members of the immediate family walk with her down the hallway to the elevator. Her generosity saved 4 lives, and gave 1 other the gift of sight.

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[iamnotagolem]

Oh, for some reason I assumed the other way round - but I also have no data whatsoever.
Was the idea that they were at home based on something in the charges or the comments the family made? I'd just be interested to learn more.

I tend to agree. Burglary involves entering a home or another building illegally, whether or not something is stolen, while robbery involves taking property from a person,.

If they had been home, I think it would have been called a home invasion robbery. Home invasion robbery specifically entails forcefully entering a residence with the intent to commit robbery against the occupants inside.

 

[cckp72]

I tend to agree. Burglary involves entering a home or another building illegally, whether or not something is stolen, while robbery involves taking property from a person,.

If they had been home, I think it would have been called a home invasion robbery. Home invasion robbery specifically entails forcefully entering a residence with the intent to commit robbery against the occupants inside.

It would be interesting to know if the person was caught and if they were convicted and are in jail or not.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Nice post, @Sjöberg. Appreciate your posts. Not sure if it's considered official or if it is helpful; however, I've linked the parents' video below. BN is Liz's dad. If interested, please reference video at timestamp @10:57.

@8:46 BN: The Orlando trip was one of several trips that they had planned and budgeted for because they really loved doing it.

@9:33 Beginning talks about the garage sale

@10:57 BN: So what Liz always did when she left the house was her car was in the garage - she would go out to the car, lock the door, set the alarm and then she’d start her car up. Lock the doors, open the garage door and back out.

The day of the garage sale. That abundance of caution led her to set the alarm in the house on instant trigger and leave the door from the garage into the house unlocked. I can only say this was in case she needed a quick retreat. That she knew if she could get to the door and pop it open the alarm would instantly go off.

KHOU 11 exclusive: Parents of Elizabeth Barraza talk about their daughter's death and investigation​

Something your post just made me realize is that the perp moved so fast from their truck, across the lawn and to Liz that she wouldn’t have even been able to run to the garage to escape to the house if she wanted, despite the precaution she took.

The perp also doesn’t take out and reveal their gun until their right up to her table, possibly to reduce the risk of her getting scared and running away before they were close enough to ensure that their shots wouldn't miss or she could escape back into the house?

I wonder if this means that perp knew beforehand that they had to move quickly because they were that Liz had taken precautions, had access to both an escape route, the unlocked garage door, and an security alarm, behind her? If so, would that mean the perp or the person who orchestrated her horrific murder would have to be very close to Liz and Sergio to have such intimate knowledge of their house and safety routines?

 

[arielilane]

@AppleTreeGreen, yes, agreed. To piggyback on your great post, I've always wondered how Liz would have even been able to escape anyway? It seemed she was boxed in, with the placement of the table on one side and the treadmill on the other side. But, it's pure speculation on my part because it's hard to clearly see the set up-- maybe jump over the treadmill. Doubtful, because it all happened so fast, and killer caught Liz off guard.

Once paramedics arrived at the scene they moved the treadmill out of the way to assist in helping Liz.

Liz was defenseless - unarmed - unaware - innocent and the killer coward ought to think twice about thinking they got away with a homicide.

My thoughts.

 

[arielilane]

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[CrimeTheorist]

Has anyone tried to contact George Lucas or JK Rowling to up the reward for information that results in an arrest? I wonder if either of them knows about her case and how big a fan of their work she was. It would be pretty cool if the people she was a fan of ended up helping find her killer.

 

[TTF14]

I've only loosely followed this case, and in fact I misremembered her age and thought she was around age 50 for some reason. Not even 30! I read the timeline on the website in @arielilane's signature and learned more about this exceptional woman.

It's so hard to understand how/why they haven't caught this person yet since they know the make and model of the vehicle. Was it stolen or something?

It seems to me like this perpetrator intended to rob her and something went wrong? Did she recognize them so that's why she was shot? Had she gone to the bank the day before to get cash to use as change for her yard sale? Thinking "out loud" here (and I'm sure you're all sick of theories like this, so I apologize!). I suppose if this was "their thing," though (robbing yard salers of cash), there'd be more reports about it....

Are there any podcasters or YouTubers that do a good job of covering this case?

 

[arielilane]

The following post is speculation, my thoughts at this time:

• I believe that LE know who (all involved) did this crime, but are building (assurance in a court of law) a case, which will put the people involved away for a very long time... TX is a death penalty state.
• I believe that only one tip is needed that will break this case wide open, and seal the case.
• I believe that more than one person was involved in the planning and killing of Liz Barraza, and therefore, maybe someone will eventually do something right, and speak up.

 

[lightofmine99]

I am just wondering what the motive would be for this murder that appears calculated and every degree of firs degree.

 

[arielilane]

Or perhaps… and more of my thoughts --- at this time, the killer is already incarcerated and therefore, unable to be located- would killer be harder to find if incarcerated? Criminals like to brag, and they like to talk, right? id really k?

-- Did killer go back to their usual every day routine? Did killer leave the country? It’s doubtful that killer isn’t bragging about their crime, at least, I’d be surprised killer isn’t bragging or talking about it.

-- Killer did an early morning drive-by, so I'd suspect, were they on drugs or do they do drugs? - a lot of adrenaline going? No sleep, no food, anxious to commit planned killing. Had been planning to kill Liz for awhile?

-- What about the killer’s outfit? Liz used to work part time at a party warehouse so did any of the items come from that store? Did Liz get along with staff at the store?

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

I was thinking more about the timing of when the perp was first caught on camera, 2:30 AM IIRC, and thought about who or what type of jobs might get out at that time. From, there I also thought about the perp’s clothing and the idea that perhaps they had just come off of work and were possibly wearing their work attire. I recalled speculation that perhaps the perp was wearing knee-length platform boots and light coat, possibly a trench coat, covering shorter attire underneath. It does appear to me too when they are running that the perp’s legs might be bare. The style of clothing and timing did make me wonder if perhaps the perp possibly worked at a nightclub, strip-club or bar at the time at which they committed the crime? Such outfits and work hours are common among the staff or workers at the nightclubs and such near my location. Perhaps this could possibly explain the late night drive-by at 2:30 AM and the perp’s wardrobe if the perp just got off of work and they didn’t return home to change beforehand?

Reading a few articles too online, platform boots are popular footwear for those who work in the stripping industry. I noticed too on some of the news articles and videos about LE and sex work in Houston, that high heeled shoes or footwear, including heeled and platform boots, that made a person appear taller were also commonly worn among those featured in the videos and articles too.

Of course, perhaps I am wrong about what I think the perp is possibly wearing and the possibility that they may have been working in a nightclub, bar and such at the time they committed the crime too. Nor could I speculate on what connections they could possibly have with the Liz or the Barrazas in general. Just my own thoughts or speculation on the perp’s background or what their clothing and timing for scouting the house before returning a few hours later could tell us about them.

 

[pat8]

I read @AppleTreeGreen ‘s theory and while I’m not sure I’m on board with the sex work theory, I agree that the gap between the time the Nissan Frontier is first seen in Liz’s neighborhood and when the crime occurs is the key to solve the case.

~ Four hours and 40 minutes is not a long gap. It’s possible the car kept driving around the area, but there’s also a chance the perpetrator went home and returned to the crime scene. Which suggests he/she lives nearby. Perhaps Houston or Galveston.

I saw some discussion the other day about whether this case is solvable or not. And, because it seems targeted, I really have hopes Liz, her family and friends will get justice.

 

[hexicon]

Reading a few articles too online, platform boots are popular footwear for those who work in the stripping industry. I noticed too on some of the news articles and videos about LE and sex work in Houston, that high heeled shoes or footwear, including heeled and platform boots, that made a person appear taller were also commonly worn among those featured in the videos and articles too.

The boots are important to me, too.

To me they look like Wellington rubber boots rather than platform boots, and on the initial walk up the driveway the shooter seems to have a bit of a "clomping" walk the way one has when walking in wellie boots, which by nature tend to be loose and bulky feeling.

Just about every woman in my social group, from ages 12 to 80, has a pair of Hunter brand wellies. They're mid-to upper-mid range in terms of price and accessibility. No one I know has white Hunters, though. Hunters are made in white but they're not the easiest color to find--more often you see traditional colors like black and green plus fashion shades like red. White is not the most practical color if you're going to wear the boots in rain or mud. White boots would show every speck of dirt. But, by their nature, wellie boots won't stain and can be rinsed easily.

So why would someone pick white boots in particular?

I tend to think that there is a cosplay link. Since the famous 1960s Courreges space era collection, white boots have been associated with a futuristic, sci-fi look. Someone might choose white boots for a specific costume or simply because they like that space-girl aesthetic.

Personally I don't think the shooter is dressed in a cosplay outfit for the attack. I think they are wearing a lab coat (easily stripped off and discarded) and rubber wellies (visible blood easily rinsed off) and I think this attire is consistent with the planning shown with the 2 am drive-by. But I think a cosplay connection might explain why they choose white boots in the first place, instead of more practical and readily available colors.

 

[Curious Me]

To me they look like Wellington rubber boots rather than platform boots, and on the initial walk up the driveway the shooter seems to have a bit of a "clomping" walk the way one has when walking in wellie boots, which by nature tend to be loose and bulky feeling.

Just about every woman in my social group, from ages 12 to 80, has a pair of Hunter brand wellies. They're mid-to upper-mid range in terms of price and accessibility. No one I know has white Hunters, though. Hunters are made in white but they're not the easiest color to find--

Interesting theory and solid reasoning, @hexicon. Boots like this?

 

[hexicon]

Interesting theory and solid reasoning, @hexicon. Boots like this?

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Yes, that's what I had in mind. White is available online at the Hunter website but (according to my quick google) not among the colors typically offered at department stores online or in person.

When I was googling I also found that there is a type of men's white tall work boot called a "shrimp boot," as well as men's white work boots with black soles that look similar to the stormtrooper boots from the movies, though these come higher up the calf. To me the boots in the video look like tall white ladies' rain boots, though I can't say that I see the buckle or label as in the Hunter brand boots.

I know that some have speculated that the boots are similar to Ugg brand boots, which are thick, bulky crepe-soled suede boots lined with shearling. As with Hunter rain boots, just about every woman I know has a pair of Ugg boots. They were popular as a fashion statement in the last decade. Uggs are less popular as streetwear now, though many women (including me) still wear them around the house as slippers.

One reason I think the killer isn't wearing Uggs is that the crime shows some degree of rational planning, and for a person who is generally making rational decisions Uggs would be a terrible idea to wear to a crime scene. The suede upper on Uggs stains easily and is impossible to clean effectively--rainwater will leave a waterline stain on them. You would never be able to remove blood from the suede, and the shearling lining sheds, creating a risk that you'd leave fiber evidence, plus the texture of the suede means that you could take fiber or similar evidence with you (mine are cat hair magnets).

Can you tell I'm just a girl who is obsessed with shoes? Of course we can't tell how much the killer thought through any of this, but in the absence of any real developments I guess I'm just hyper-analyzing through my area of "expertise."

 

[Curiousobserver]

The boots are important to me, too.

To me they look like Wellington rubber boots rather than platform boots, and on the initial walk up the driveway the shooter seems to have a bit of a "clomping" walk the way one has when walking in wellie boots, which by nature tend to be loose and bulky feeling.

Just about every woman in my social group, from ages 12 to 80, has a pair of Hunter brand wellies. They're mid-to upper-mid range in terms of price and accessibility. No one I know has white Hunters, though. Hunters are made in white but they're not the easiest color to find--more often you see traditional colors like black and green plus fashion shades like red. White is not the most practical color if you're going to wear the boots in rain or mud. White boots would show every speck of dirt. But, by their nature, wellie boots won't stain and can be rinsed easily.

So why would someone pick white boots in particular?

I tend to think that there is a cosplay link. Since the famous 1960s Courreges space era collection, white boots have been associated with a futuristic, sci-fi look. Someone might choose white boots for a specific costume or simply because they like that space-girl aesthetic.

Personally I don't think the shooter is dressed in a cosplay outfit for the attack. I think they are wearing a lab coat (easily stripped off and discarded) and rubber wellies (visible blood easily rinsed off) and I think this attire is consistent with the planning shown with the 2 am drive-by. But I think a cosplay connection might explain why they choose white boots in the first place, instead of more practical and readily available colors.

The perps outfit could have been a darker color that reflected the wavelength of light the camera was registering. I am not sure we can say what color any of the clothing was. I do agree they look like "Wellies" but many things including reflective things (shiny black boots for example) often looks bright white in a camera at night. None of the colors are represented correctly in low light.

As an example, in my Ring camera, the trees and grass which are dark green, appear bright white at night.

What is odd is that they were wearing boots at all. Boots like that are difficult to drive in and weren't needed for the weather, same for the "jacket". I also do not believe it was a costume; I think they came prepared to shed that clothing and remove any blood and gunshot residue that could tie them to the crime. Perhaps they shed that jacket and the boots and went directly to a job to establish an alibi. It would be easy enough to discard all of that in a bag in the truck, walk into work on time and perfectly dressed, act normal for a few hours and then go and discard all of that clothing in a burn barrel somewhere.