TX TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, Jan 2019 #6

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Most go-go boots have very short heels or even none at all.

I've never seen go-go boots without a heel. Low-high but not no heel.
Those would be considered thigh boots but not go-go boots.

Go-go boot - Wikipedia

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This case really throws me, because I want to believe it's Sergio since that would be the most obvious thing. But from what I understand, life insurance will not be given to someone if they are a possible suspect in their spouses death. Do we know if he actually has received the life insurance money? That's a very obvious motive, plus if he was cheating but I can't find any confirmation on if he was. I don't like that his statements have changed, like when he put the signs out. But seeing this new video (above) makes me even more confused because he seems very upset. I do wonder if his dad wanted Liz dead because if Sergio was gone, it would be obvious he didn't do it and could get the life insurance. His dad would care about this since he spent his money on mistresses, like most of his money, and Sergio's checks were bouncing as a result (he worked for his father). It would be a wild motive though, but perhaps he thought if his son wasn't physically there it would make way for less suspicion and a way to pay off the family debt. But obviously, Sergio looks guilty as hell and like he put a hit out on his wife. The other reason I wonder about the dad is because I saw that authorities listed someone in Miami as a person of interest, which is where one of his ladies lives (allegedly - I cannot confirm nor deny). This is all so weird to me, but I do think if it's not someone connected to Sergio or Sergio himself, it had to be an old coworker or possibly someone in the cosplay circle. It's so well planned that I think they were stalking her for a while, which indicates to me that if the stalker(s) aren't hired by someone else- then the person(s) stalking are very unstable. You're unstable to kill someone regardless, but anyone other than Sergio, or maybe a jealous love-triangle person being this jealous and determined to kill someone, is insane. A lot of what I'm saying is conjecture, so I do apologize if it's not at all helpful, but this case is just crazy. People also mention Sergio's mother as a possible suspect for hiring the hit, which at this point I feel like anything is possible and stranger than fiction. Hopefully, we'll find out soon enough though. As her parents said in a news interview earlier this year, it's not "magic", there are people responsible and this is solvable. If the police are closer, especially with the FBI being involved now (not sure when they joined?), then I pray every single person involved will be caught and charged to the full extent of the law. What a senseless and tragic crime. I think the shooter also wasn't a big-time professional, from what I saw in the shooting video. They handle the gun in a less experienced-looking way, despite being confident in their actions. I'm no gun expert but have shot enough rounds to know that they look awkward with a gun, lol. I could be wrong but idk, seems like a hit but not done by professionals, probably people who were more convenient to the person putting out the hit (cousins, a friend, etc.). Someone will hopefully crack with this pressure because more than two people have to be involved and keeping a secret to yourself is hard enough! Sorry this is long as hell, but that's all. Rest in Peace, Liz, we will not stop fighting for you!

Sergio's father does seem to be on the radar of possible POI.

 

[x_files]

The person resembles a woman and we all suspect it was a woman. But what if it is a lithe man who impersonates women well? Then go-go boots would be such a plus! And also they add height, don't they?

Height might be a determinant, especially if it is a man or a teenager.

absolutely possible especially a teen or young man.
That footage is very blurry! Anything is possible! I'm open to either gender.

 

[x_files]

I wondered the same thing.

Is this standard for all cases or specific to this?

You know though, now I wonder.

I am no gang-related murder expert by any means, but I find it unlikely a specific person would be targeted for gang initiation, especially someone in Liz's demographic and living area etc.

I also find it highly unlikely a gang related killing would have the truck spotted as early as 2am.

BUT, this thought just occurred to me too.

If it was gang related, wouldn't there be a higher chance of Liz being shot at FROM the vehicle? Drive-by style?

If it was not gang related, why didn't the shooter do that either? Was there a reason they did not want to shoot towards the house when they were shooting Liz, and made sure to shoot her facing parallel to the house?

an interesting twist to the case!

 

[Ajs1004]

I speculate these are the extremely commonly worn soft boot "Ugg" style shoe, worn by women around Liz's age doing morning routine things like walking the dog or taking out the trash.

That is really weird to me too, unless she invited her friends and they were planning to drop by, but don't most people work on a Friday? I'm curious if there was a holiday that day.

This case really throws me, because I want to believe it's Sergio since that would be the most obvious thing. But from what I understand, life insurance will not be given to someone if they are a possible suspect in their spouses death. Do we know if he actually has received the life insurance money? That's a very obvious motive, plus if he was cheating but I can't find any confirmation on if he was. I don't like that his statements have changed, like when he put the signs out. But seeing this new video (above) makes me even more confused because he seems very upset. I do wonder if his dad wanted Liz dead because if Sergio was gone, it would be obvious he didn't do it and could get the life insurance. His dad would care about this since he spent his money on mistresses, like most of his money, and Sergio's checks were bouncing as a result (he worked for his father). It would be a wild motive though, but perhaps he thought if his son wasn't physically there it would make way for less suspicion and a way to pay off the family debt. But obviously, Sergio looks guilty as hell and like he put a hit out on his wife. The other reason I wonder about the dad is because I saw that authorities listed someone in Miami as a person of interest, which is where one of his ladies lives (allegedly - I cannot confirm nor deny). This is all so weird to me, but I do think if it's not someone connected to Sergio or Sergio himself, it had to be an old coworker or possibly someone in the cosplay circle. It's so well planned that I think they were stalking her for a while, which indicates to me that if the stalker(s) aren't hired by someone else- then the person(s) stalking are very unstable. You're unstable to kill someone regardless, but anyone other than Sergio, or maybe a jealous love-triangle person being this jealous and determined to kill someone, is insane. A lot of what I'm saying is conjecture, so I do apologize if it's not at all helpful, but this case is just crazy. People also mention Sergio's mother as a possible suspect for hiring the hit, which at this point I feel like anything is possible and stranger than fiction. Hopefully, we'll find out soon enough though. As her parents said in a news interview earlier this year, it's not "magic", there are people responsible and this is solvable. If the police are closer, especially with the FBI being involved now (not sure when they joined?), then I pray every single person involved will be caught and charged to the full extent of the law. What a senseless and tragic crime. I think the shooter also wasn't a big-time professional, from what I saw in the shooting video. They handle the gun in a less experienced-looking way, despite being confident in their actions. I'm no gun expert but have shot enough rounds to know that they look awkward with a gun, lol. I could be wrong but idk, seems like a hit but not done by professionals, probably people who were more convenient to the person putting out the hit (cousins, a friend, etc.). Someone will hopefully crack with this pressure because more than two people have to be involved and keeping a secret to yourself is hard enough! Sorry this is long as hell, but that's all. Rest in Peace, Liz, we will not stop fighting for you!

You are correct, life insurance will not be given if the beneficiary is a suspect in that persons death. I had to jump through hoops to get my husbands life insurance because the cause of death was “undetermined” at first.

 

[Diddian]

I wondered the same thing.

Is this standard for all cases or specific to this?

You know though, now I wonder.

I am no gang-related murder expert by any means, but I find it unlikely a specific person would be targeted for gang initiation, especially someone in Liz's demographic and living area etc.

I also find it highly unlikely a gang related killing would have the truck spotted as early as 2am.

BUT, this thought just occurred to me too.

If it was gang related, wouldn't there be a higher chance of Liz being shot at FROM the vehicle? Drive-by style?

If it was not gang related, why didn't the shooter do that either? Was there a reason they did not want to shoot towards the house when they were shooting Liz, and made sure to shoot her facing parallel to the house?

If a gang member was involved (thus motivating the involvement of the Texas Anti Gang Unit as has been reported), then perhaps the theory is that a member affiliated with a gang was hired to conduct a hit, not against another gang member or for a gang initiation, but for the money some person was willing to pay (or promise to pay) to have EB murdered. And that is why this shooting looks unlike a typical gang shooting but might have involved a gang or one of its members.

Perhaps LE found something that connects the shooting to a specific gang or gang members. Perhaps the truck used matches one known used in a gang-related crime or perhaps something left by the shooter at the scene or at a place the truck stopped (where it was parked away from the driveway, or at the Goddard School lot) yielded DNA evidence linking to a known gang or member. Items could include a discarded cigarette, something spit out by the shooter, or perhaps whatever the shooter showed EB before shooting her. If such evidence was found by LE, it is fortunate neighbors were alarmed and reacted quickly to get authorities to the scene where they could isolate it before others unintentionally contaminated or destroyed evidence.

In one appearance before media, EB’s father said with dismay that his daughter did not associate with any dangerous people. But, a person is not only at risk from dangerous people they personally affiliate with; they are at risk from dangerous people that anyone they are associated with (a relative, neighbor, friend, coworker, fellow group member) might affiliate with. And in the age of social media, links may exist that even those affiliates aren’t aware of.

 

[Cryptic]

Liz may not even be campaigning for this attention or responsibility, but may have gathered a large backing for her personality and other admirable traits. This may have sent the person who shot her into a frenzy, losing their position and influence over something that is basically their entire life and personality.

I think this scenario is very possible. Decades ago, I had a brush with it:

I was assisting a charity group. I then opened it up to my church. The priest liked the project and I had his permission to seek recruits (teenagers and parents for "spruce up" Saturday work parties)

Then....leaflets that I left at the Church started to "disappear", scheduled bulletin announcements were pulled due to "space". An Email list of contacts was "unavailable". Then, alas, a PC crashed- taking the list down in cyber flames.

A bird whispered to me that the Youth Director saw me as a direct threat to her position / status at the parish and was "possibly" behind the uhmm... "confusion". The youth group was her everything- and I was seeking volunteers from her world.

I never intended to replace her. She was very non murderous, I am alive and well. The father / teen work parties were sent- after it was affirmed by the Priest and everyone else she was, is, and will be, the youth leader. Yes, of course, she was very qualified for a lead role in the work parties. Meanwhile, I would disappear into the back pews.

But.... could somebody else, as in your scenario, react violently?

 

[Diddian]

I think this scenario is very possible. Decades ago, I had a brush with it:

I was assisting a charity group. Then.... I opened it up to my church. The priest liked the project and I had his permission to seek recruits (teenagers and parents for "spruce up" Saturday work parties)

Then....leaflets that I left at the Church started to "disappear", scheduled bulletin announcements were pulled due to "space". An Email list of contacts was "unavailable". Then, alas, a PC crashed- taking the list down in cyber flames.

A bird whispered to me that the Youth Director saw me as a direct threat to her position and was uhmm.... "possibly" behind the sabotage. The youth group was her everything- and I was seeking volunteers from her world.

I never intended to replace her. She was very non murderous, I am alive and well. The father / teen work parties were formed and sent- after it was made clear to her that she was, is, and will be the youth leader. Yes, of course, she was very qualified for a the lead role in the work parties. Meanwhile, I would disappear into the pews- and stay there for ever more.

But.... could somebody else, as in yoru scenario, react violently?

I agree that something like this could occur, but I would expect most such people to be sloppy so they would soon be identified.

There are certain elements of this crime that suggest significant planning and/or someone with some experience avoiding detection (although they could have just been lucky):

• Committing the murder outside, where less likely to leave DNA evidence or to have it survive long in the elements
• Committing the murder in the early dawn hours when few people are outside and nearby to see the truck or the crime in process
• For the most part, avoiding appearance in Barraza’s doorbell camera
• Casing the area the night before
• Waiting until SB left to approach so EB was alone
• Stopping and waiting at Goddard School (where cameras were reportedly inactive) before approaching
• Positioning the vehicle outside range of the Barraza’s doorbell camera
• Possible use of a revolver (to avoid leaving casings)
• (ETA: 3 rapid shots to upper body and then final to face seem more likely from an experienced or trained killer; also the final shot to the face diminishes the likelihood EB could speak to identify her killer should anyone rush to the scene while she is still living)
• Possible use of clothing and/or wig to disguise identity and possibly, gender
• Avoidance of touching EB or anything at the scene
• Not yet arrested

 

[glassheater]

Stopping and waiting at Goddard School (where cameras were reportedly inactive) before approaching

That’s beyond wild to me. How would the perp know this? Very well planned. This person planned for a while and either did impeccable research or hired a professional
Hit.

 

[Diddian]

That’s beyond wild to me. How would the perp know this? Very well planned. This person planned for a while and either did impeccable research or hired a professional
Hit.

It perplexes me too. So much so that I tend to think it is one thing the perpetrator(s) just got lucky with.

Hoping LE is closing in and an arrest occurs soon and this soon moves into the "criminals ratting each other out to save themselves" stage.

 

[glassheater]

It perplexes me too. So much so that I tend to think it is one thing the perpetrator(s) just got lucky with.

Hoping LE is closing in and an arrest occurs soon and this soon moves into the "criminals ratting each other out to save themselves" stage.

Yes I’m on the fence. It was open with potential people going in and out. But then when I drop my kids off, I wouldn’t have given a second thought to a truck that was there for a few seconds. Too busy trying to park and get my kid out. Would
Of looked more out of place sitting in a lot of a closed business.

 

[Facinatingtimes]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> I have a really dumb question - if there was no working camera at the Goddard School, how do we know the truck was there?

 

[glassheater]

I have a really dumb question - if there was no working camera at the Goddard School, how do we know the truck was there?

Not dumb. I asked the same question last thread. I’m assuming the other businesses nearby had a camera. There was a bank across the street to the left.

Google Maps

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[glassheater]

I also saw this on Google maps. But it seems to be pointed towards the neighborhood

Won’t let me upload the screen shot. Weird. If you look towards the neighborhood you’ll see a black pole that says 24/7 recording and a camera.

 

[glassheater]

This should work. Says princetonplacehoa.com. May of been after the incident and due to the incident. MOO

 

[Facinatingtimes]

Not dumb. I asked the same question last thread. I’m assuming the other businesses nearby had a camera. There was a bank across the street to the left.

Google Maps

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Thank you. I always tell my teens not to do anything stupid because there are cameras everywhere. I guess cameras aren’t all they are cracked up to be, in this case!

In many cases it’s cameras not working, too late footage has been taped over, very poor quality or not pointed in exactly the right direction. How frustrating!

 

[Duper's Delight]

This should work. Says princetonplacehoa.com. May of been after the incident and due to the incident. MOO

Yes, after the incident. They are flock cameras. They also read the license plate.

 

[Cryptic]

I agree that something like this could occur, but I would expect most such people to be sloppy so they would soon be identified.

I agree fully.

As you stated, statistically, most 'dissed, jealousy, and rage murders are impulsive, clumsy and solved quickly. If such a scenario applies to this case, elements that could change the common quick arrest scenario could be:

- Plain old fashioned luck regarding the perpetrator.

- A pretty big pond to look for 'dissed perpetrator in. The 501 legion has 453 members in Texas. A forum member stated that cosplay attracts a a visible minority of "in deep / everything" types. Then factor in Star Wars conventions and other groups. The victim also had a very active on line life. So, even more contacts to look through.

 

[Diddian]

I agree fully.

As you stated, statistically, most 'dissed, jealousy, and rage murders are impulsive, clumsy and solved quickly. If such a scenario applies to this case, elements that could change the common quick arrest scenario could be:

- Plain old fashioned luck regarding the perpetrator.

- A pretty pond to look for a 'dissed person. The 501 legion has 453 members in Texas. A forum member stated that cosplay attracts a a visible minority of "in deep / everything" types. Then factor in conventions. The victim also had a very active on line life. So, even more contacts to look through.

That is true (pretty large pond). In fact, SB mentioned someone very early on while sitting sideways (facing out) in the police vehicle shortly after arriving at the scene.

I may be wrong, but I find myself leaning in the direction of family dynamics (not SB). Marriage brings new members in who don't always want to play by the family dynamics that preexisted them. Five years would demonstrate that. And five years with both spouses approaching 30, if they were considering having children, that might grant further weight to the desired shift in dynamics of the former outsider which might be intolerable to someone.

 

[arielilane]

Was Liz married to Sergio at the times of these three incidents do you know?

Yes, it's my understanding these events happened during the time they're married.