TX - Elizabeth Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris County, Jan 2019 #2

[Squirmy316]

uploaded too many times sorry

 

[Squirmy316]

uploaded to many times sorry

 

[Squirmy316]

Gray did a good job of increasing the volume on the video to hear the guy's voice. Still couldn't hear exactly what he was saying but it's in 2 parts. A little more cleaning up and you might be able to distinguish the words. It was threatening. He was telling her (in so many words) this is because of something you did or said or knew or something. Not sure, but it almost sounds like he mentions someone's name.

so i listened to the amplified version gray did and at the 1:35:30 mark on part 2, the shooter says:
Shooter: elizabeth ... sorry ... I was sent by the force.

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btw its a males voice and, what i heard makes sense because of her being into star wars.

 

[Betty P]

Are you sure? Which time stamp? He played several different amped up versions. TIA

Ok, I hear it now. Yes, it sounds like that to me, also.

Did LE release this video knowing people would amp up the volume and hear those words from the killer? Putting pressure on the Star Wars cosplay group?

I still think this might be a younger male, possibly a teen. The way they "gun" the engine, then slow down as they first pull onto Elizabeth's street sounds like the "lurching" kind of acceleration a new driver uses when they're not accustomed to driving an unfamiliar vehicle at a constant slow speed. ICBW, though.

 

[ZZ Topps]

What's striking to me is the killer seemed to know there was a camera on Liz's porch & stayed out of view of that camera when on foot. So someone very close to her planned this IMO.

B-I-N-G-O! I would expect the truck to pull up right in front of the driveway to give them a shorter, more direct path to her......why stop where they stopped?? I had said one of three things occurred. Either a) someone VERY close to her informed the killer exactly where the camera's view cut off, b) the killer really did their homework and researched the exact viewpoints or c) got extremely lucky to stay just outside of view. I think this may have been overlooked and can be key in the investigation.

 

[ZZ Topps]

The way the killer fires the gun resembles a male who is comfortable shooting a gun. A woman would be more inclined to hold the gun with two hands to have more control of it. I'm not saying women aren't capable of shooting guns, just making an observation based on the majority of actions.

 

[sl222]

Didn't the Gray video say that there was a camera on the house where the killer parked? He saw it on the 2nd floor. I can't imagine just parking in front of someone's house. It's not unusual for a person to come out and say "may I help you" when that happens in a neighborhood. Especially at the crack of dawn like that.

In hearing the weird driving noises, it almost seems like they were having trouble with that truck. Which would make sense if they were driving a borrowed or unfamiliar and possibly unreliable vehicle.

Based on what you all found of the killer saying he was sent from the Force, plus the supposed note or item that he handed to Liz (maybe to distract her because that was the moment the shooting started), I'm still leaning to the view that the Star Wars thing was intended to throw off the police. If that's the case I don't think it fooled the police.

 

[Turkeytrot]

Didn't the Gray video say that there was a camera on the house where the killer parked? He saw it on the 2nd floor. I can't imagine just parking in front of someone's house. It's not unusual for a person to come out and say "may I help you" when that happens in a neighborhood. Especially at the crack of dawn like that.

In hearing the weird driving noises, it almost seems like they were having trouble with that truck. Which would make sense if they were driving a borrowed or unfamiliar and possibly unreliable vehicle.

Based on what you all found of the killer saying he was sent from the Force, plus the supposed note or item that he handed to Liz (maybe to distract her because that was the moment the shooting started), I'm still leaning to the view that the Star Wars thing was intended to throw off the police. If that's the case I don't think it fooled the police.

I think the house with the camera he was showing on his video was the one that caught the main footage of the shooting. There have been articles that mention other footage from homes and maybe businesses though - I would love to see that. I figured there must be better footage than what we've seen but I don't know why it hasn't been shared if that's the case.

The sounds from the truck almost remind me of someone who doesn't really know how to drive a stick shift driving one, haha. But I think it would be more of a jerky motion if that was the case. It also kind of sounds like a car I had that the transmission was going out in. It wouldn't change gears when it was supposed to so it got loud like that.

I also feel like the truck probably doesn't belong to the perp. Only because it seems a disguise was used to hide their appearance, I can't imagine them using a truck that could be traced to them. It also could explain why they feel comfortable going by so many times.

 

[Turkeytrot]

The way the killer fires the gun resembles a male who is comfortable shooting a gun. A woman would be more inclined to hold the gun with two hands to have more control of it. I'm not saying women aren't capable of shooting guns, just making an observation based on the majority of actions.

I've thought the same thing. Especially that last shot

 

[sl222]

I haven't heard anything about footage from the house the shooter parked in front of, but I hope they have something. I wonder about DNA evidence in the truck since the shooter got in the truck with the outfit still on.

One point always sticks with me: this whole thing was not just planned but theatrical. If the Star Wars thing was a ruse, it was a strange and "creative" but malicious attempt to use her connection to Star Wars to cast those people under suspicion to mislead the search. (speculation)

I think the person who planned this crime gave themselves away by making it so dramatic (as opposed to many other possibilities). Did that person think people would focus on the bizarre nature of the crime and also think it would go unsolved because of that? What kind of person would do that? (I would like to see the forensic profile.)

And if this shooter is a young person who agreed to do this , who is not an experienced hit person but who obviously is a sick person himself, is that shooter still alive? Someone who would have Liz killed could kill the shooter too (speculation). If the planner asked someone to find a 3rd person to do the shooting, who had no connection to the planner, that's yet another scenario, but then that makes 3 or more people who know something about this. Maybe the shooter was related to the planner.

 

[Turkeytrot]

Also, something I read on another forum that I hope is true.. a poster shared that a relative works as a homicide detective. And said that sometimes the release of footage, etc, isn't necessarily because there's something valuable in the footage itself - because it could have been released earlier if so. But that it could be that they have an idea of who did it, and just need that extra bit of information. So releasing this gets press attention, gets us talking, etc. Maybe it will get the wheels turning for someone to come forward.

I really hope that's the case and that they're close to solving this.

And I'm reminded of cases where it seemed like law enforcement had no idea for quite some time.. Only to find out that they knew all along. They just had to be able to make their case.

 

[scruffydog]

I don't think it's been mentioned here but it appears that Sergio is newly engaged. Not insinuating anything, just an observation that was made/shared in another forum I follow.

ka-ching!!!!

 

[Curiousobserver]

I have to say that I am 98% sure I hear a male voice in that video as well. I can't make out what they said.

Again this seems like a very solvable case: excellent description of the car, video from multiple angles, more video we don't know about, this person is obviously connected to the victim. I wonder if LE has employed an audio engineer to boost and filter the raw audio.

Also- the background music/sounds??? Would you be playing the music early in the morning while your are setting up a garage sale?

 

[Squirmy316]

Are you sure? Which time stamp? He played several different amped up versions. TIA

Ok, I hear it now. Yes, it sounds like that to me, also.

Did LE release this video knowing people would amp up the volume and hear those words from the killer? Putting pressure on the Star Wars cosplay group?

I still think this might be a younger male, possibly a teen. The way they "gun" the engine, then slow down as they first pull onto Elizabeth's street sounds like the "lurching" kind of acceleration a new driver uses when they're not accustomed to driving an unfamiliar vehicle at a constant slow speed. ICBW, though.

Well from my understanding, they only released it to the public as new information that Elizabeth says good morning to her killer. I believe they don't know what the killer said.

 

[hey_GARY]

Also, something I read on another forum that I hope is true.. a poster shared that a relative works as a homicide detective. And said that sometimes the release of footage, etc, isn't necessarily because there's something valuable in the footage itself - because it could have been released earlier if so. But that it could be that they have an idea of who did it, and just need that extra bit of information. So releasing this gets press attention, gets us talking, etc. Maybe it will get the wheels turning for someone to come forward.

I really hope that's the case and that they're close to solving this.

And I'm reminded of cases where it seemed like law enforcement had no idea for quite some time.. Only to find out that they knew all along. They just had to be able to make their case.

That’s a great point about the timing of the new release of footage. Which other forum is this? I’d like to read it if possible.

 

[sl222]

I don't know for sure but I thought earlier from the video that Liz was on her phone before and as the shooter appeared. And it does sound like she's talking (but hard to tell). She might also be moving things around. And I can see playing music too. I can't hear what the shooter said so far. It's hard to turn the sound up high enough because the gunshots are so much louder (found out the hard way). The Gray video is very good. He seems sure nothing was handed to Liz but it has always looked to me as though she was handed something by the killer's left hand and she looked down as she took it. Prayers for the family because after 2 years they still have to go through so much. My thoughts this morning are that the killer did not just a very wrong thing but a very stupid thing, and the reasons are going to turn out to be just as stupid and senseless (but that's a given, isn't it). I watched the original HSCO press conference again last night.

 

[Turkeytrot]

That’s a great point about the timing of the new release of footage. Which other forum is this? I’d like to read it if possible.

It was on the most recent reddit thread for her!

 

[hey_GARY]

One thing I just thought of - Sergio was interviewed or quoted saying that when he found out that Elizabeth was shot, he thought he’d go to the hospital and see Liz, she’d tell him a crazy story of what happened and that they’d be able to move forward. But didn’t he also say that he heard what happened on his own Ring doorbell recording on his way back home that morning too, before going to see Liz at the hospital?

So if you hear that your wife was shot 4 times on the recoding, do you really think that would happen when you get to the hospital? Seems strange to think/say that. Or maybe in his position with a loved one being shot, he was just trying to be optimistic about the situation before getting there and finding out what really was going on.

 

[hey_GARY]

It was on the most recent reddit thread for her!

Thank you!

 

[Turkeytrot]

One thing I just thought of - Sergio was interviewed or quoted saying that when he found out that Elizabeth was shot, he thought he’d go to the hospital and see Liz, she’d tell him a crazy story of what happened and that they’d be able to move forward. But didn’t he also say that he heard what happened on his own Ring doorbell recording on his way back home that morning too, before going to see Liz at the hospital?

So if you hear that your wife was shot 4 times on the recoding, do you really think that would happen when you get to the hospital? Seems strange to think/say that. Or maybe in his position with a loved one being shot, he was just trying to be optimistic about the situation before getting there and finding out what really was going on.

I agree about this. It may be just denial/trying to be optimistic but knowing she was shot 4 times and from what I've heard medevac/life flighted, that's obviously a dire situation.