Found Deceased TX - Emily Wade, 38, Ennis, Ellis County, 5 Jan 2019

  • #701
I think the bolded information is interesting. The article doesn't say Police believe it was an accident - it specially says police aren't saying if they are investigating her death as homicide or suicide. I would think if it were clear that it was an accident/water death, then they would say so or atleast something to the effect that they had no reason to suspect homicide or suicide.
LE doesn't determine cause and manner of death - it is the duty of the medical examiner. They are right not to comment at this point until it is clear how she died. MOO
 
  • #702
For those of us that live in Ennis, we all know that going from "friends" home on Clay St back to her apt is quite a short distance as opposed to the long distance and in the complete opposite direction to where her body was found. I do not believe that she made a wrong turn. You can drive South on Clay St and get onto Southbound Ensign Rd and drive for awhile to Chamber's Creek/Ensign Rd. If going home she would have traveled North Clay St. Unless she had other plan's or something nefarious happened, she had no business down there. IMHO
 
  • #703
For those of us that live in Ennis, we all know that going from "friends" home on Clay St back to her apt is quite a way's in the complete opposite direction to where her body was found. I do not believe that she made a wrong turn. You can drive South on Clay St and get onto Southbound Ensign Rd and drive for awhile to Chamber's Creek/Ensign Rd. If going home she would have traveled North Clay St. Unless she had other plan's or something nefarious happened, she had no business down there. IMHO
The co-workers house was not on Clay Street. He lived out of town, to the south. Her last sighting was reported as being on Clay St...maybe she was on her way to his place at that time. I'm not sure where the Clay St info came from or why.

In any case, her route home still was a roundabout opposite direction sort of way and I think she may have been confused about how to get back home. After all, it was then dark, it's a rural area with seemingly unpaved roads.

View Gray's video upthread (it's an hour long so I have not watched the entirety), but he shows locations and possible routes from co-workers back to town and her home. I'll look for the link again.

Only could get this from a post.
Found Deceased - TX - Emily Wade, 38, Ennis, Ellis County, 5 Jan 2019
 
  • #704
The co-workers house was not on Clay Street. He lived out of town, to the south. Her last sighting was reported as being on Clay St...maybe she was on her way to his place at that time. I'm not sure where the Clay St info came from or why.

In any case, her route home still was a roundabout opposite direction sort of way and I think she may have been confused about how to get back home. After all, it was then dark, it's a rural area with seemingly unpaved roads.

View Gray's video upthread (it's an hour long so I have not watched the entirety), but he shows locations and possible routes from co-workers back to town and her home. I'll look for the link again.

Only could get this from a post.
Found Deceased - TX - Emily Wade, 38, Ennis, Ellis County, 5 Jan 2019
Ahhhh, I see. I had the impression that the friend lived on Clay St. I mean, if he is the one that said he saw her leave and saw her last on Clay St. The autopsy will reveal the truth. I feel so sad for her family. Way, way too close to home!
 
  • #705
Gray did a video showing the bridge during different months--not sure if it's been posted. The bridge gets covered by the creek and I didn't see a warning sign. FYI, there's a bit of salty language.

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Yeah the creeks around here are absolute nightmare's. I have a small creek at the beginning of my drive it is usually dry, but when we get flash flood's, it is a raging river and we cannot leave the house, I almost got washed away in my p/up truck and the water was not even 3ft.
 
  • #706
I only read about halfway through the thread before I saw the update Emily's body was found, so I might have missed some info. Did the police ever hint her disappearance was suspicious?

One of the things I read before skipping to the end of the thread was that all of her co-workers, including the man she watched a movie with, and her mom and her ex were all cleared as suspects. From Pommy's post here: Found Deceased - TX - Emily Wade, 38, Ennis, Ellis County, 5 Jan 2019

Just curious why so many posters are still suspecting possible foul play. Is it because her brother said he thought she had been abducted or her car stolen? (that's also in the post I linked above by Pommy)
Has Emily's family made any statements indicating they still believe abduction or car jacking as a possibility now that she has been found?
 
  • #707
I only read about halfway through the thread before I saw the update Emily's body was found, so I might have missed some info. Did the police ever hint her disappearance was suspicious?

One of the things I read before skipping to the end of the thread was that all of her co-workers, including the man she watched a movie with, and her mom and her ex were all cleared as suspects. From Pommy's post here: Found Deceased - TX - Emily Wade, 38, Ennis, Ellis County, 5 Jan 2019

Just curious why so many posters are still suspecting possible foul play. Is it because her brother said he thought she had been abducted or her car stolen? (that's also in the post I linked above by Pommy)
Has Emily's family made any statements indicating they still believe abduction or car jacking as a possibility now that she has been found?
There was a quote from LE that "foul play was not suspected...followed by the qualifier that no one had been ruled out as a suspect." Many questioned the wording of that. Also there was confusion as to whether the co-worker and male friend/witness were the same person, or, in fact, two separate individuals. SO, one was cleared and the other wasn't, for example.

Hope that helps understand a little, anyway.

ETA There were some other rumors / comments on SM that can't be elaborated upon here. Not sure if they are even relevant now...IMO
 
  • #708
There was a quote from LE that "foul play was not suspected...followed by the qualifier that no one had been ruled out as a suspect." Many questioned the wording of that. Also there was confusion as to whether the co-worker and male friend/witness were the same person, or, in fact, two separate individuals. SO, one was cleared and the other wasn't, for example.

Hope that helps understand a little, anyway.

ETA There were some other rumors / comments on SM that can't be elaborated upon here. Not sure if they are even relevant now...IMO

Thanks @zecats

I did notice there was a lot of conflicting info on who she was seeing, how she knew the person and who saw her drive away from where (I don't know how Gray Hughes got a different "where" than almost everyone else but I'm guessing he sleuthed the friend/coworker and read SM we can't link to here-- and his map location makes more sense since it's closer to where she ended up). I got the impression there was more than one person at the house Emily watched the movie at and/or a neighbor saw her drive away and that was how they were able to clear movie man. I also thought that the person who she watched the movie with was being called both a male friend and a coworker-- but perhaps it depended on who you asked. If a co-worker of them both was interviewed, for example, he might be called a coworker and if a friend or family member was interviewed perhaps they used the word friend instead. MOO.
 
  • #709
In the time that the news about Emily's body being found, I have gone from being on the fence about accident vs foul play, to being sure it was foul play, to being pretty sure now it was an accident but still have some doubt. I also somehow missed the whole thing about the roads being flooded that night, but the thing that gave me pause about an accident was that her cell phone was turned off AFTER she left her co-workers, which, when someone is going to drive home to where their child is seems exceedingly odd.

Now the report from LE and her brother's statements...hmmm not sure what to think!

Either way, R.I.P. Emily and much love to her child and family.
 
  • #710
Thanks @zecats

I did notice there was a lot of conflicting info on who she was seeing, how she knew the person and who saw her drive away from where (I don't know how Gray Hughes got a different "where" than almost everyone else but I'm guessing he sleuthed the friend/coworker and read SM we can't link to here-- and his map location makes more sense since it's closer to where she ended up). I got the impression there was more than one person at the house Emily watched the movie at and/or a neighbor saw her drive away and that was how they were able to clear movie man. I also thought that the person who she watched the movie with was being called both a male friend and a coworker-- but perhaps it depended on who you asked. If a co-worker of them both was interviewed, for example, he might be called a coworker and if a friend or family member was interviewed perhaps they used the word friend instead. MOO.
To be honest with you, most of the posters and commenters on the official Facebook page had the different "out of town" address of the co-worker, which came up as a discrepancy over there, fairly quickly. LE never clarified, well, because LE never posted anything after the initial statement. And maybe /probably so as not to disclose an address or the name of the co-worker unfairly. IMO
 
  • #711
I think the bolded information is interesting. The article doesn't say Police believe it was an accident - it specially says police aren't saying if they are investigating her death as homicide or suicide. I would think if it were clear that it was an accident/water death, then they would say so or atleast something to the effect that they had no reason to suspect homicide or suicide.
As EW body was only recovered late Monday morning (date of article), we should not expect definitive report by LE until they have autopsy report. Until then, it's just speculation. MOO
 
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  • #712
There was a quote from LE that "foul play was not suspected...followed by the qualifier that no one had been ruled out as a suspect." Many questioned the wording of that. Also there was confusion as to whether the co-worker and male friend/witness were the same person, or, in fact, two separate individuals. SO, one was cleared and the other wasn't, for example.

Hope that helps understand a little, anyway.

ETA There were some other rumors / comments on SM that can't be elaborated upon here. Not sure if they are even relevant now...IMO

And to add to the confusion some maps showed her at an in town location when in fact she was out in the country at the pizza, movie house!

That was apologized for and corrected. It was very confusing.
 
  • #713
Jan 22, 2019 ABC/WFAA 8 News

Volunteers and members of the Cajun Coasts Search and Rescue team had spent more than a week combing through near Ennis to find Wade and her car.

"It was so thick, we couldn't hardly get into where she was found," said Toney Wade, Commander of the Cajun Coasts volunteers.

The low water crossing at Ensign Road is still washed out by a large part of Chambers Creek. Two signs further up on the side of the road warn of high water and a closed bridge, but one is falling over and both might be hard to see in dark and rainy conditions. Chief Erisman said those waters were believed to be high at the time. Wade's car has not been located. Crews continue to search for it.

Wade's family is asking for privacy during this difficult time. They did share that she will be buried back home in Kentucky. She had not lived in Ennis long.

Police believe body found is likely missing Ennis mom
 
  • #714
Floods frequently here. Live in a community of 2000 residents. It is required for a household to have a minimum of one phone registered with the town for automated messages. We registered all of the cell phones (even the old flip phone).

When weather issues occur (flash flood, road closures, hurricane,etc) an automated message is sent to all phones on the list.
It might be annoying but it is very helpful.
 
  • #715
In the time that the news about Emily's body being found, I have gone from being on the fence about accident vs foul play, to being sure it was foul play, to being pretty sure now it was an accident but still have some doubt. I also somehow missed the whole thing about the roads being flooded that night, but the thing that gave me pause about an accident was that her cell phone was turned off AFTER she left her co-workers, which, when someone is going to drive home to where their child is seems exceedingly odd.

Now the report from LE and her brother's statements...hmmm not sure what to think!

Either way, R.I.P. Emily and much love to her child and family.

If she made a couple of wrong turns she could have driven into the water minutes after leaving the movie guys house. In that case her phone would be "off" because it was submerged in water. Hopefully LE will be able to tell easily if this is anything other than a tragic accident. I don't think they will make a clear statement until the autopsy report is final.

MOO.
 
  • #716
‘It doesn’t sit right’: Questions arise after beloved mom Emily Wade is found dead in creek, but car remains missing [Exclusive]

Duration 39:38


As authorities await the autopsy results of a Texas woman found deceased on Monday in a creek bed, experts are questioning whether the beloved mom accidentally drove into a flooded area or if something else may have caused her death.

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‘It doesn’t sit right’: Questions arise after beloved mom Emily Wade is found dead in creek, but car remains missing [Exclusive]
 
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  • #717
‘It doesn’t sit right’: Questions arise after beloved mom Emily Wade is found dead in creek, but car remains missing [Exclusive]

Duration 39:38


As authorities await the autopsy results of a Texas woman found deceased on Monday in a creek bed, experts are questioning whether the beloved mom accidentally drove into a flooded area or if something else may have caused her death.
Emily Wade was found in Chambers Creek in Ennis on Monday, by a search crew led by Tony Wade, commander of Cajun Coast Search and Rescue team. Wade spoke with CrimeOnline‘s Nancy Grace and explained why the factors surrounding the incident doesn’t quite sit right with him.

“In history when we’ve found someone that drove off of that body of water, they were found inside the car, not outside of the car,” Wade, who is of no relation to 38-year-old Emily Wade, said.

Wade said that it’s possible, yet highly unlikely, that Emily may have accidentally drove into the water while driving in the dark late at night. Police have not ruled foul play in the case, as they are awaiting results from a medical examiner regarding the official cause of death.

They’ve also yet to locate the car Emily was reportedly driving, a 2012 Nissan Altima with a Kentucky license plate.

Wade also indicated that the area Emily was found at was not on the route she should have taken back home after visiting a co-worker. In fact, she was found in the opposite direction. Emily reportedly visited a male co-worker’s home after working a shift at Chili’s restaurant in Ennis, then left for her own residence at around 8:30 p.m. on January 5.



“I don’t know what she would have been doing, going that way,” Wade added.

The search crew commander explained that it would be almost impossible for someone to get out of car once it starts to submerge in water, and in the 1,000-plus cases he’s seen involving vehicles and water, the victim was always inside the car.

“You have the pressures of the water. It’s going to be very hard to open the door or window. The windows aren’t going to roll down when the car is submerged. The electrical system is going to short out. She would have had to have opened the door. When a car is sinking and the pressure from the water from the outside trying to get in, it’s going to be next to impossible to open the door.”

Although authorities have no suspects in the case and have interviewed Emily’s co-workers and family, Wade said that several factors “threw up big flags” for him that Emily’s death may not, in his opinion, have been fatal driving accident.

“In relation to where she was from the co-worker’s home throws up a big flag for me. Her being outside of the car throws a big flag up to me. Just her being in that area alone–it just doesn’t sit right…Everything about Emily, you know we always try get a pattern together of a person’s life, how they act, what they do, and this is outside of the pattern we came up with.”

Wade said the area around the creek bed was “clean” of signs of an accident, meaning there were no trees hit or any indication that there had been vehicle colliding with anything in the area.

Authorities sent Emily’s body to the Dallas County Medical Examiner’s Office for a positive identification and official ruling on death. As of now, the cause of death is unknown. Her car has still not been found.

‘It doesn’t sit right’: Questions arise after beloved mom Emily Wade is found dead in creek, but car remains missing [Exclusive]

BBM Wow! This makes the brother's comments more understandable. I don't know what I would hope for in this case. Either is a terrible and terrifying way to pass. :( MOO
 
  • #718
It saddens me that the majority of people in the area just want to declare an accident, and move on. They don't want to hear any talk of any other possibilities. They just want to accept it is a mistake and EW just drove off the road in to these big bad flood waters. I live here and there was no big flood waters that night. Yes the creek flows, but we did not have any bad or heavy rains that day or before. It was beautiful here in Texas. People keep posting pics of years past when it was actually flooding, and at its worst, but not that night. I've seen pics posted from back in 2013 and 2015.

I know the autopsy will tell us whether she had water in her lungs or not, and know we need to wait on that, but I agree 100% with Toney Wade, the captain of the search team. I have more faith in him than I do the police dept. because of all the inaccurate information that has been given by them. They say one thing one minute and change it up in another. At this point, I don't know if EW went straight to the co worker's apartment or house, or if she went home to her and her mother's apartment first or went to another friend's place. Now the mother was "babysitting". So why would EW go out or not even come home to her daughter, that she moved here for? wasn't she primarily living with her Daddy? visiting on the weekend? some reports say she was, others now are saying she lived with the grandmother and EW. Now everybody is all cleared and not under suspicion and we don't even know the COD. So why is it still such a big secret with police about who the Male Co Worker is? Why are they protecting him so much? bad background? known criminal? cooperated but refused at the same time? makes no sense.
 
  • #719
@Texsun They could have wishful thinking. I think if this were my family member I would want it to be an accident. If there was foul play it would cause not only sorrow but hatred, not a good mix. IMO
 
  • #720
‘It doesn’t sit right’: Questions arise after beloved mom Emily Wade is found dead in creek, but car remains missing [Exclusive]

Duration 39:38


As authorities await the autopsy results of a Texas woman found deceased on Monday in a creek bed, experts are questioning whether the beloved mom accidentally drove into a flooded area or if something else may have caused her death.

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‘It doesn’t sit right’: Questions arise after beloved mom Emily Wade is found dead in creek, but car remains missing [Exclusive]

Thanks JC40!

Been waiting to hear this.
 
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