TX TX - Falls Co, Hisp/Poss Asian AdmxFem 20-45, UP3514, wrapped in quilt, heart charm nklce, Apr'00

[PayrollNerd]

A bit more clarity for those looking for the location on a map. When you use Google Maps, the streets are labeled differently than if you use Mapquest. Here is the intersection of CR 451 & CR 452 (also labeled Farm Rd 1239). You can see where CR 451 turns into CR 459 when crossing over CR 452/Farm Rd 1239. This intersection has few landmarks but Blevins Cemetery, 126 County Rd 452, Eddy, TX 76524 is nearby.

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[Sillybilly]

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[Caring1]

Pah Pow is Asian and was reported missing from Aberdeen, SD in April of 2016.

UID was wearing a necklace with the following description. Does anyone think the necklace Pah is wearing may match this description?

“Necklace Yellow metal, heart-shaped charm with a dragon on one side and a bird on the other.”

Keep in mind UID’s hair was unknown or completely bald so the recon for her hair is most likely a guess on what it may have looked like in life.

Let me know what you think.

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[jennytrevor]

I have nothing useful to comment but I opened this thread and was kind of unnerved how much the recreation of this decedent looks like Kamala Harris.

 

[Hockeyfan158]

Was Elizabeth Campbell ever ruled out for this? It doesn’t give a rule out on Namus and I’m still positive this is her everything adds up anyway to email falls county sheriff department

 

[Melt71]

Just noticed that Elizabeth was missing #13 tooth, and the UID has a filling there. So assuming that's all accurate info, they would not be a match. And Catherine's DNA and Dentals are both listed as unavailable.

Was Elizabeth Campbell ever ruled out for this? It doesn’t give a rule out on Namus and I’m still positive this is her everything adds up anyway to email falls county sheriff department

@Hockeyfan158 in the post from 2012 by former user IrishEyes it seems like she decided against submitting Elizabeth Campbell as the dentals didn't seem to match. You can submit if you feel strongly (easiest way I usually find is via the DoeNetwork site as they have a very easy comparison/submission form).

 

[all4khloe]

Was Elizabeth Campbell ever ruled out for this? It doesn’t give a rule out on Namus and I’m still positive this is her everything adds up anyway to email falls county sheriff department

can you look at the jane doe from collier county found april 14th 2004. i believe its her but not sure.

 

[Caring1]

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1 Missing Person Exclusion

 

[snooptroop88]

So... stock pond/tank, maybe what a little pond. But... I'm seeing sources saying fishermen found her, just the skull at first. Also seeing stock ponds associated with fishing are about quarter of an acre to an acre. Also seeing that other remains (aside from the skull) were located "later." (Hands never found, I believe.) Am seeing these ponds like 5-15' deep. Was this one kind of murky, not really good visibility, was this body weighted down and over the years remains began bobbing up, being taken in part by scavengers, other segments washing up and finally detected, notably the skull? And how big is this body of water?? I mean the fishermen are using it, and sources are not specifying these fishermen own this property. And if they do, I'm sure it's not their first time using the pond/tank in this area, I'd assume, why no remains until now?

This perp... it sounds like he may have gone to a lot, lot of trouble to make sure that body wouldn't be found for an extremely long time, and this Doe would be incredibly difficult to ID. Most of them do this, but not all, and this one has (unfortunately) had amazing success with it. The local scenario would be like the perp was living with the victim, psycho perp murdered her, she lived with him, he grabbed all her stuff and dumped it with her. Usually I'd say yes, here I'd say not at all sure, though, because if he's local, I've got to believe this would've caught up with him by now. I mean maybe not, but likely. If she had all her stuff at his place, nobody noticed she's disappeared? If he was going a fair distance to see her, again, nobody noticed him, and nobody noticed her disappearing? Nobody noticed all her sheets were gone, a lot of her clothes gone? Perhaps, but it doesn't seem likely. I think it might be possible, though, if she had a very transient kind of existence. Still... I think someone would have noticed.

And the sheet sets, were they involved in his commission of sex crimes, DNA? And these clothes... Some of these clothes sound like they'd match up for different people. They're not all the same "style," if you will. Could they be the possessions of the same woman, of course they could. But I don't think it's necessarily the case. It's jmo and I'm likely wrong, but if that's a local... how has nobody noticed in decades? Because unless there was a relationship between them, I don't know why he'd dump such a significant amount of her wardrobe off with her, along with sheets. It's just... strange. And believe me, I'm not saying this person isn't local, he quite likely is. But it just seems freakish to me that he's out there, the local murderer, she's disappeared, relationship implied with all this clothing and bedding, and nobody noticed. Could she have been staying at a hotel out somewhere on I-35 for some time? Is there anything reasonably nearby?

 

[annemc2]

Thanks to the lovely @PayrollNerd 's post above (#81), I was able to look up the address posted for the cemetary and a few little bodies of water nearby on Google maps. (I think - I can't find my way out of a paper bag and apparently cannot figure out the distance between the two) Google Maps

The GPS coordinates linked on NamUs are nearby but not quite how the location is described Google Maps

eta: she could have easily been staying anywhere off of 1-35. We used to make the drive from Dallas to Austin often when I was a kid and it's just a straight shot.

 

[snooptroop88]

Thanks to the lovely @PayrollNerd 's post above (#81), I was able to look up the address posted for the cemetary and a few little bodies of water nearby on Google maps. (I think - I can't find my way out of a paper bag and apparently cannot figure out the distance between the two) Google Maps

The GPS coordinates linked on NamUs are nearby but not quite how the location is described Google Maps

eta: she could have easily been staying anywhere off of 1-35. We used to make the drive from Dallas to Austin often when I was a kid and it's just a straight shot.

(respectfully bolded) Much thanks on this, so that could make sense. Were she staying at a hotel or motel, sometimes they offer longer term rates, so maybe she checked out of somewhere. Had all her stuff with her, or a lot of stuff, perp psycho murders her and dumps everything, including the victim. They don't find her till much later, so by then, everyone has forgotten about any particular woman who might have checked out around that time, were there any chance of that. People have forgotten about any association this perp may have had with someone who was staying in any local motel (or remote one, for that matter), may not even have been aware of any association. But there are such distinctive items with her. Perp must have been certain nobody in the area would know her, and/or that she wouldn't be found for a very long time. Leaving that necklace is almost... I mean, that's a pretty unusual necklace. So he must've been quite certain nobody was going to make any connection.

Don't know on this. It still seems like it's so close to I-35 that I jmo can't be positive that is someone local. Again, definitely could be. But would almost want to see the property & know more about its use & area surrounding it before completely casting away the idea of a non-local. And if it's non-local, those sheet sets in particular are really creepy to me, along with the variety of wardrobe items found with this woman. I can more easily see two (or even more) women opting for those clothes & jewelry items, not just one woman. But some people have very eclectic styles, so...

It's just weird. While it's never "not weird" to have a human's skeleton found in the woods, the clothing and sheets...? All those clothes, and distinctive jewelry? I mean...??? I hope they can ID her. Someone mentioned Elizabeth Ann Campbell, and agreed she looks very much like the Doe's likeness, but why all these clothes?

This is my first post on Websleuths. I spent some time comparing the Charleyproject links in post #19 with the new facial reconstruction in post #25. I also noted on NAMUS that they claim that size 4 Maidenform underwear was found with the remains. I believe race is still indeterminate? Without further details I find myself particularly interested in Hispanic missing persons. (I understand about the clothing but as others have said, that could come from anywhere. In identified MP on this website was found with clothing from Mexico but was of Filipina nationality.)

Here are my picks. I hope someone else here can affirm or reject these so there are one or two to refer to law enforcement.

Maria Trinidad Velazquez http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/velasquez_maria.html
Height in range, face structure superficially similar, time frame fits clothing style, as does age.
Could be too heavy for size 4 underwear but unclear if the clothing even belongs to the UID.

Anna Mollari http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mallari_anna.html
Filipina, height well in range.
Cheekbones appear to be very prominent, unlike the reconstruction.

Patricia Loya http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/loya_patricia.html
Biracial, one of her photos looks remarkably like the reconstruction.
Why would a teen in the early 90s be buried with 1980s office lady wear? But this may be a misdirection.

Maria Barrientos http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barrientos_maria.html
Age and time of disappearance match clothes. Eyes and nose appear to match, as well as height.
Weight too high for underwear perhaps, and shape of chin looks wrong.

Theresa Fishbach http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fishbach_theresa.html
Dark hair/eyes Caucasian, face structure looks similar to me, ht/wt time and circumstances of disappearance fit
Camera angle of photo is bad for comparison, perhaps the artists here can advise

Martha Martinez Maxwell http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/maxwell_martha.html
Age/circumstances seem to fit.
Too large for size 4 underwear. Nose may be too narrow/pointy/protruding. Perhaps artists can advise if reconstructions tend to be accurate about nose. I know that the general size/shape of the nose, enough to rule out a prominent nose like that, should be obtainable from the skull if undamaged, but that doesn't mean that the artist didn't make an error.

Crossing my fingers.

Respectfully bolded/this point, from post:
Why would a teen in the early 90s be buried with 1980s office lady wear? But this may be a misdirection.

100% agreed, and I suspect this victim is younger, too, so the wardrobe leaves questions. In any event, RIP.

 

[Melt71]

Respectfully bolded/this point, from post:
Why would a teen in the early 90s be buried with 1980s office lady wear? But this may be a misdirection.

100% agreed, and I suspect this victim is younger, too, so the wardrobe leaves questions. In any event, RIP.

Not sure what leads you to think she is a teenager - the estimates are 20-45 so she likely has her adult/wisdom teeth and patterns of dental wear to suit that age group.