TX - Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, indicted for Murder of Botham Shem Jean #5

[CrimeDawg123]

When did they test her?

IIRC 3AM.

 

[VAgirlatheart]

IDK why he would think that. The amount of marijuana he had was effectively legalized in Dallas. IMO he didn't have time to think anything.

Right, that poor boy had no time to think The ignorance that people come up with. Drug bust? Lol

 

[rosesfromangels]

I don't think drugs are the issue here.

In my amateur opinion and speculation, they could certainly play a role and to be thorough, I think she should be tested.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[gitana1]

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What the heck does it matter how he was portrayed? He is the victim. He didn't do one thing to cause this.

She is not be victim.

And it's not like he had child in there for God's sake. He had pot. Half the country uses it. People don't beat their wives, beat their kids, get in fights with strangers, start riots after their team loses, etc., when their stoned. Not like people do when they get drunk. They just relax.

Just because TX is behind much of the nation when it comes to the continued prohibition of a drug that continues to be illegal because it's associated with use by minorities, doesn't mean a man who uses it has a problem with morality. He has a problem with living in a backwards state.

It's ridiculous. And I don't even use the stuff. Not at all.

 

[rosesfromangels]

you'll be waiting a long time. there is no "smoking gun" (I wouldn't have used that phrase, for sure). this has been turned into a political football which fits an "anti-cop" narrative. all my opinion.

Don't give her any credit by associating her with law enforcement. She's a disgrace. We have many, many fine examples of honorable men and women in law enforcement. She isn't one of them, and likely should have never been hired.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Indy Anna]

One thing I'm curious about from today's testimony: the Chemistry teacher/football coach stated that after he parked his car in the garage (4th Floor), he saw Amber driving fast through the garage before parking her vehicle. He was a bit alarmed by that and it was one reason her noticed her.

I wonder what AG's frame of mind was at that point. Was she angry about something/at someone? Was she in a hurry because she had plans for that night? IIRC, she had pulled over in the garage before that to text her partner.

 

[VAgirlatheart]

Same here. Maybe it was as simple as Texas law is, shall we say, different when it comes to defining murder?

ETA: Do I remember correctly that a judge refused to "sign off" on manslaughter, but would on murder?

I am like you but I do believe it’s coming, I don’t know when but after the way the prosecution was getting stuff thrown out there today, Its gonna come and at the right moment. They were adamant about that charge. I think even with it being a Texas law, there is something in there that made that grand jury go with the new charge.

 

[gitana1]

One thing I'm curious about from today's testimony: the Chemistry teacher/football coach stated that after he parked his car in the garage (4th Floor), he saw Amber driving fast through the garage before parking her vehicle. He was a bit alarmed by that and it was one reason her noticed her.

I wonder what AG's frame of mind was at that point. Was she angry about something/at someone? Was she in a hurry because she had plans for that night? IIRC, she had pulled over in the garage before that to text her partner.

Interesting. Thanks for posting that.

 

[Jax49]

One thing I'm curious about from today's testimony: the Chemistry teacher/football coach stated that after he parked his car in the garage (4th Floor), he saw Amber driving fast through the garage before parking her vehicle. He was a bit alarmed by that and it was one reason her noticed her.

I wonder what AG's frame of mind was at that point. Was she angry about something/at someone? Was she in a hurry because she had plans for that night? IIRC, she had pulled over in the garage before that to text her partner.

Was he the gentleman who disputed he'd told the Rangers he also had issues with his door lock? IIRC, he said something about "maybe a misunderstanding" while indicting he didn't have issues.

 

[Wishbone]

Pot is as normal as glass of wine for millions and millions of people in the US. He had a small amount and a common tool used with it. I don't see this as abnormal for a anyone, let alone a religious person, one from the islands at that.

I'm surprised at the Victorian type attitude I'm seeing from some on here regarding the use of pot. Yes, it is illegal in many states to include Texas but attitudes are and have been changing toward prosecuting for possession of small amounts. I would venture to guess given time laws will continue to relax and just like prohibition of the 1920's will be done away with.

 

[Indy Anna]

Was he the gentleman who disputed he'd told the Rangers he also had issues with his door lock? IIRC, he said something about "maybe a misunderstanding" while indicting he didn't have issues.

IDK. I don't remember him saying that.

 

[mickey2942]

One thing I'm curious about from today's testimony: the Chemistry teacher/football coach stated that after he parked his car in the garage (4th Floor), he saw Amber driving fast through the garage before parking her vehicle. He was a bit alarmed by that and it was one reason her noticed her.

I wonder what AG's frame of mind was at that point. Was she angry about something/at someone? Was she in a hurry because she had plans for that night? IIRC, she had pulled over in the garage before that to text her partner.

I think that she was chasing Officer Rivera, and he wasn't that interested in her. She seemed like she was the aggressive one in the "sexting" conversation about how "horny" she is...and he didn't respond with, "Well, come on over.". That is a blow, when a guy isn't that interested in you.

She was distracted and pissed off, because she was basically throwing herself at a man, who wasn't interested.

The Latest: Ex-lover denies rendezvous planned with Guyger

 

[Jax49]

IDK. I don't remember him saying that.

K. One of the neighbors said that today (pretty sure that's accurate).

 

[rosesfromangels]

One thing I'm curious about from today's testimony: the Chemistry teacher/football coach stated that after he parked his car in the garage (4th Floor), he saw Amber driving fast through the garage before parking her vehicle. He was a bit alarmed by that and it was one reason her noticed her.

I wonder what AG's frame of mind was at that point. Was she angry about something/at someone? Was she in a hurry because she had plans for that night? IIRC, she had pulled over in the garage before that to text her partner.

This is very interesting. Knowing what was to come, it reinforces the potential of being in a hothead state. Driving fast enough through the garage to alarm the football coach/teacher.

Sounds like she was amped up. Getting ready for a confrontation?

All amateur opinion and speculation

 

[VAgirlatheart]

you'll be waiting a long time. there is no "smoking gun" (I wouldn't have used that phrase, for sure). this has been turned into a political football which fits an "anti-cop" narrative. all my opinion.

Anti-cop narrative. From the beginning corruption was happening, from her texts messages to her being able to remain at the crime scene, to her not getting arrested for 3 days and the police association was the one that posted her bond... see it’s people who always think others are attacking the police when in reality, this type of coverup happens every single time.Enough is Enough. Hold the ones responsible. Charge the ones who are scared to death cowards so we can give the good ones the praise that they deserve. Trust me, when things like these happen - the community pushes back.

 

[wyome]

The subject matter maybe. But the texting itself and the focus might be very relevant. She was distracted. While exhausted from work and carrying a loaded weapon.

True, but many of those "racy" texts were hours before this event. The prosecution built this up like she was getting ready to get home and get laid...super horny and distracted.

However, when the love-interest officer takes the stand, he admits they broke up a long time ago and they were just flirting and he had no intent on seeing her that night. Even admitted that the text from her stating 'I need you hurry' didn't elicit anything but fear from him that she was in trouble. Sure, he could be full of crap. It's hard to judge given that both their testimonies are just weird. I mean who flirts with people they're not seeing anymore? Who sends pics of your junk when you have no interest in seeing them that night?

 

[Jax49]

True, but many of those "racy" texts were hours before this event. The prosecution built this up like she was getting ready to get home and get laid...super horny and distracted.

However, when the love-interest officer takes the stand, he admits they broke up a long time ago and they were just flirting and he had no intent on seeing her that night. Even admitted that the text from her stating 'I need you hurry' didn't elicit anything but fear from him that she was in trouble. Sure, he could be full of crap. It's hard to judge given that both their testimonies are just weird. I mean who flirts with people they're not seeing anymore? Who sends pics of your junk when you have no interest in seeing them that night?

I found him less than believable. moo

 

[VAgirlatheart]

What the heck does it matter how he was portrayed? He is the victim. He didn't do one thing to cause this.

She is not be victim.

And it's not like he had child in there for God's sake. He had pot. Half the country uses it. People don't beat their wives, beat their kids, get in fights with strangers, start riots after their team loses, etc., when their stoned. Not like people do when they get drunk. They just relax.

Just because TX is behind much of the nation when it comes to the continued prohibition of a drug that continues to be illegal because it's associated with use by minorities, doesn't mean a man who uses it has a problem with morality. He has a problem with living in a backwards state.

It's ridiculous. And I don't even use the stuff. Not at all.

I like you. I like you alot.

 

[Handsome Sailor]

One thing I'm curious about from today's testimony: the Chemistry teacher/football coach stated that after he parked his car in the garage (4th Floor), he saw Amber driving fast through the garage before parking her vehicle. He was a bit alarmed by that and it was one reason her noticed her.

I wonder what AG's frame of mind was at that point. Was she angry about something/at someone? Was she in a hurry because she had plans for that night? IIRC, she had pulled over in the garage before that to text her partner.

some people just drive too fast

 

[VAgirlatheart]

True, but many of those "racy" texts were hours before this event. The prosecution built this up like she was getting ready to get home and get laid...super horny and distracted.

However, when the love-interest officer takes the stand, he admits they broke up a long time ago and they were just flirting and he had no intent on seeing her that night. Even admitted that the text from her stating 'I need you hurry' didn't elicit anything but fear from him that she was in trouble. Sure, he could be full of crap. It's hard to judge given that both their testimonies are just weird. I mean who flirts with people they're not seeing anymore? Who sends pics of your junk when you have no interest in seeing them that night?

One thing that me and my husband notice that he was very uncomfortable on the stand, while it could be he didn’t want to testify against her, we also wondered if he could have had a wife and maybe having an affair. Not saying he does but can you imagine if he did and this is a national case. Yea. Just throwing it out there, not really saying that’s the case.