GUILTY TX - Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, indicted for Murder of Botham Shem Jean #6

[Rocco]

Thanks Crime Dawg!!

 

[AllyBeeUK]

If it makes you feel any better, I also lost a child and when I found her dead my instinct was not CPR and I knew how to do it. My instinct was to call 911. I was alone and had to make that decision and when I returned her grandpa walked in and was doing it. I did not take over because at that point I couldn't think straight, the whole situation was absolutely surreal but then again that's probably mostly due to the fact that I loved her and I was in shock. She was my child. A couple of minutes later the first responders took over. I can tell you I see it as very comforting that others who could handle it did do it because I know she got their true effort since I am not sure how well I would have done it given the circumstances.

What I understand now is why other people like to say that something would never happen to them, or they would've done something differently. It is self-preservation. If you come to the realization that "there but for the Grace of God, go I", then you would live your life in fear of everything like I do now having realized it could be me because it was once me.

I'm so sorry for your loss. I think it is different when it is someone you love, especially your children. My son collapsed when he was 6 with what we thought was a seizure, I burst into tears and ran out of the room. My husband and my mum looked after him. I still feel awful and I panic about what I would do if something similar happened again although my husband assures me that I would have acted differently had I been alone with him, but who knows? I can only pray I don't have to find out. A few days ago an elderly man fell of his bike while I was passing, I was calm and did what I had to. It's a different situation with your loved ones.

Once again, my deepest condolences to you, it's brave of you to share that experience x

 

[Cindizzi]

I'm not finding any coverage. Does anyone have a link? TIA

Watch Live: Former Cop Amber Guyger on Trial in Alleged Murder of Botham Jean

 

[722prayers]

Prosecutor is exceptionally smart to argue to remove the lesser charges from the jury based on AG testimony that she intended to kill him. Super if he gets that through!

 

[Weki]

Can I just say how much I appreciate this judge calling it as she sees it? She just told the defense atty he was being disingenuous! So refreshing! How I wish more judges would be as direct with attys who purposely try to confuse and insult ppl’s intelligence with disingenuous arguments.

 

[Cortne]

Thank you for sharing your story @ReadyorNot . I am very sorry for your loss.

Likewise, Im sorry for your loss I couldn't imagine. Love and hugs

 

[722prayers]

Is that photo on the stand supposed to be Botham Jean? Does anyone else find it to be deceivingly whitewashed?

 

[ilovewings]

Prosecutor is exceptionally smart to argue to remove the lesser charges from the jury based on AG testimony that she intended to kill him. Super if he gets that through!

So then the jury would have only murder or acquittal??? is that right? i don't like it. she already has the benefit of the doubt- she is a police officer- i am tired of seeing police officers who murder people walk because they are cops.

 

[angelainwi]

Is that photo on the stand supposed to be Botham Jean? Does anyone else find it to be deceivingly whitewashed?

what do you mean by whitewashed?

 

[Weki]

I don’t know why but I feel really nervous about the outcome of this case. These instructions will be crucial. The castle doctrine is in - that worries me. But I get why it would be allowed.

State is fighting tooth and nail to exclude things for a reason.

 

[iluvmua]

Judge is allowing jury to consider castle doctrine when deliberations

 

[722prayers]

So then the jury would have only murder or acquittal??? is that right? i don't like it.

He argued to remove manslaughter based on her admission on intent. He is correct in that if they believe she would be guilty of the lesser charge, her intent would automatically rise to the level of murder and giving the additional option would confuse the jury and allow a miscarriage of justice by sentencing her to the lesser charge when she was guilty of the heavier sentence.

 

[ilovewings]

He argued to remove manslaughter based on her admission on intent. He is correct in that if they believe she would be guilty of the lesser charge, her intent would automatically rise to the level of murder and giving the additional option would confuse the jury and allow a miscarriage of justice by sentencing her to the lesser charge when she was guilty of the heavier sentence.

But if they don't want to sentence her to murder- she will walk? the defense just needs one juror to hang----i would rather see a lesser sentence than no sentence

 

[iluvmua]

But if they don't want to sentence her to murder- she will walk? the defense just needs one juror to hang----i would rather see a lesser sentence than no sentence

I believe so.

If the only options are murder or acquittal then she walks.

 

[Cindizzi]

what do you mean by whitewashed?

Yes that is a photo of Mr. Jean and the prosecution placed it there during opening statements. It doesn’t appear to be altered or manipulated,if that’s what you mean. IMO when I watch the live feed, it seems there is an overhead light glaring on it.

 

[iluvmua]

The DA wants her to be found guilty of murder.

They overcharged her and if he wants the manslaughter charge to be excluded then she walks.

This is absolutely a manslaughter or negligent homicide case, not a murder case.

I can't believe this DA!!!!!!

at least with manslaughter, she would probably be found guilty and sent to prison.

Jmo

 

[gitana1]

AG went on a cruise last year, after that she had to give up her passport and was told to stay within the state of Texas.

It's just her way of "grieving".

 

[Weki]

Wow so judge is basically allowing the jury to have instruction that says if they believe she was mistaken then they can acquit.

ETA: Basically the instruction does not treat her intent and decision to kill as a separate issue from her mistake. So if they believe she was genuinely mistaken then she can walk. Then you have the castle doctrine in there. So....

 

[iluvmua]

Wow so judge is basically allowing the jury to have instruction that says if they believe she was mistaken then they can acquit.

I can't believe the DA did not want to include the manslaughter charge.

 

[gitana1]

Prosecutor is exceptionally smart to argue to remove the lesser charges from the jury based on AG testimony that she intended to kill him. Super if he gets that through!

I disagree. If he succeeds I believe he stands a very good chance of losing the case.