GUILTY TX - Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, indicted for Murder of Botham Shem Jean #6

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The judge is going to allow AG's Pinterest account to be presented during sentencing.

I don't see how she couldn't. They got the information through a search warrant and the defense has also had the information.
 
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Botham's mom is the epitome of elegance and grace on the stand. Such difficult but important testimony. I understand he was very much like that as well.
 
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Thank you. I think that explains the question I had.

You may feel it answers your question. Understand that grand jury are average citizens. Not politicians. And they remain anonymous.

I believe the people of that county felt there should be accountability here for the actions of what appear to be a rogue cop.
 
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OMG her strength is amazing.
 
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The jury decided those were not the facts of the case. And if that was her perception, it was unreasonable and therefore not legally justified.

What would the prudent response be by a reasonable person -- the beauty of a jury of your peers.
 
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It was not the DA that decided on murder. They sent it to the grand jury. They rejected manslaughter in favor of murder.
That's disingenuous. The GJ does not hear info and then scour the statutes to find the charge. The DA prepares the forms and requests the charge, in this case murder, of the GJ. Then the GJ true bills or no bills the charge that the DA requested.

What do it all mean? charges, bills, no bills (this is the rhetorical part).
 
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Anytime someone trained to shoot a gun, pulls the trigger they are trained to shoot to kill.
 
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NBC DFW‏Verified account @NBCDFW 3m3 minutes ago
#BothamJean's mother, Allison Jean, takes the stand during the sentencing phase of the #AmberGuyger trial. WATCH LIVE: http://on.nbcdfw.com/Ts8bNj3 #AmberGuygerTrial

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J.D. Miles‏Verified account @jdmiles11 5m5 minutes ago
Botham Jean’s mother is on the witness stand during the punishment phase of Amber Guyger’s murder trial. The victim’s mother is among prosecution witnesses who will be testifying for prison time for the former Dallas officer

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Rebecca Aguilar‏ @RebeccaAguilar 1m1 minute ago
#BothemJean mom on witness stand during sentencing phase of #AmberGuyger murder trial. Prosecutors show her photos of her son including one at her retirement party. Guyger faces 5 to 99 years on prison for Jean's murder. #Dallas

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Botham's mom is the epitome of elegance and grace on the stand. Such difficult but important testimony. I understand he was very much like that as well.
My thought was that if he had wanted to be a police officer, he'd have passed his polygraph, paid attention to his training, and probably been a model officer.
 
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I’m going to share an opinion many here may not agree with, but I genuinely believe AG. I believe she thought she parked on her floor, she thought she was at her apartment, she thought there was an intruder, and she thought she had every right to use deadly force to protect her home (I do not think self defense applied to her decision personally) under TX law. After watching the trial I believe she made a huge mistake and completely realizes it and feels awful about it. Whether it’s for herself, for Jean, or both, I sincerely believe she feels awful and parts of me have pity for her. While I don’t carry a firearm, there are definitely times in my own life that I have made huge mistakes that could have ended horribly.

I also think, even assuming the above, that she could legally be found guilty of murder under TX statutes. Her beliefs and mistakes have been found by the jury to be unreasonable, and she admitted she intended to kill Jean when she fired her weapon. That makes her guilty of murder under TX law. Period.

IMO she will get short time, 5-10 with probably half or more being probation/parole.

All JMO.

I'm with you. Except I don't think she feels awful about taking his life. Based on her performance on the stand and her conduct directly after she seemed more concerned with herself. Also, her social media posts or likes indicate something to me about her character.

I hope I am wrong.
 
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My friend's husband is in the mission trip picture with Botham. So tender.
 
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I am roughly thinking of an appeal based on the following. As a non lawyer, I am not familiar with the specifics:

Dear Appellate Court:

Lead In: The circumstances (death due to reckless conduct of the perpetrator ) of the crime do not support the charge and conviction of murder. Therefore, my Client was denied Due Process.

Supporting Facts: Facts as to why the death of the victim was due to reckless conduct of the perpetrator.

Supporting Facts: numerous as possible examples of Texas courts handling reckless vehicle accidents, reckless fire arms accidents, street racing and "hold my beer, watch this" stunt fatalities as Manslaughter. Heck, your honor, even DWI deaths are charged under Intoxication Manslaughter- not Murder.

Conclusion: Texas Courts have held that deaths due to Reckless conduct are not murder. Therefore, the conviction for murder due to reckless action is not sustainable.

Our client's right to Due Process was violated when the Murder charge was used. We request that the conviction be reduced to Manslaughter.....
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Yes. Sort of. It would be based on what comes out at trial, not on charging decisions. So what came out at trial. So they would argue the facts don't support the conviction.

And based on the facts here and the law in TX, she will lose on those grounds.
 
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Yes ma'am. It is similar in terms of decision making. IMO.
Absolutely. Unfortunately (moo) inequality in trials ($$$) varies too much. Such as the IN mom getting 41 years vs Affluenza Boy skating.

Btw: I appreciate all you bring to the table.
 
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Oh no!! The sweet momma saying. "Oh yes" every time they ask her about the photos is making me emotional!!!
 
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What an absolute light he was. What an incredible loss to our world.

How dare she take him. I am so angry she thinks she thought she could get away with it. How dare she.
 
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Remember 10 or less and she’s out on bond pending appeal. I can live with 15-20. It’s MURDER.
So if she is sentenced to 10 or less years she can stay out of prison until her appeals are exhausted? That could take years!
 
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She killed a literal saint!!
 
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