Identified! Tx - Galveston, Hispmale 'little Jacob' Up17178, 3-5, Jayden Alexander Lopez, Oct'17 *arrest*

[Bohemian]

Yeah, I’m not married to the idea that it’s Sean, either. But at the very least, he can be ruled out if it isn’t.

I still can’t help but wonder if he’s a victim of one of the hurricanes. Galveston has a lot of cruise ship tourism, too. Wonder if all that’s back online after the hurricane.






[emoji202]MOO

Exactly, I couldn’t agree more.

Could be a hurricane victim OC, depending on how long he was in the water. Also, has there been heaving flooding in rivers, etc, draining into the Gulf during the past week? The ocean currents during that time period may give also some idea of where this little boy went into the water if, indeed, he did wash ashore.

Details of approximate area where he was found (red pin is 700 block, Seawall Blvd):

’The young boy, [...] was found by a 911 caller at 5:30 p.m. Friday in the 700 block of Seawall Boulevard It's a stretch that Schirard described as "not a heavily traversed part of our beach," lying somewhere between two major Galveston beaches, Stewart beach and the region's primary beach near Seawall Boulevard.’

Source: http://m.chron.com/neighborhood/bay...body-reportedly-washes-ashore-in-12294992.php

Map: Stewart Beach (via 700 block Seawall Blvd) to Poretto Beach, Galveston TX.

Source: https://goo.gl/maps/AMD4KbGfPNn

 

[Gardener1850]

There is 3 year old Rodolfo Lugo, from this six sibling-set that went missing with non-custodial mother in May: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...lings-Ages-3-to-14-Hidalgo-County-21-May-2017

 

[Bohemian]

Marcos Macedo missing from Longview since May 31st thought to be in Mexico - only 2years old but similar size and features. No confirmation that he is still missing.

Here is his thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?340180-TX-Marcos-Macedo-1-Longview-31-May-2017/page2

There is 3 year old Rodolfo Lugo, from this six sibling-set that went missing with non-custodial mother in May: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...lings-Ages-3-to-14-Hidalgo-County-21-May-2017

Thanks for including these little guys, Gardener and Lyssa. I did see those two little boys but thought one boy* lived (maybe?) a bit far away from Galveston and the other boy was abducted by his Mum with his siblings.

(*It’s concerning that Marco’s Mum has a mugshot though.)

 

[MsFacetious]

I'm inclined to believe everything is quite accurate, since they said he wasn't badly decomposed. If those eyes and lashes are accurate somebody is definitely going to remember those! I hate to say it but he looks like another Baby Doe to me, with those big brown eyes. Baby Boy Doe.

However, let's look at his weight/height here for a minute. This is an area I'm extremely familiar with. I've had 3 kids who didn't gain/grow as they were supposed to.

My baby boy is 2 years and 3 months old. He is 25 pounds and 2 feet 8.5 inches tall. He is just BARELY hanging onto the growth charts. We are short people around here. All testing has been done. He's perfectly healthy just petite, a healthy eater, loves his ice water, very active little dude and with a metabolism we'd all love as adults!

IF the height of 3 feet tall and weight of 30 pounds is accurate this child is statistically likely to be 3-3.5 years old. I'd be shocked if he's older than that.

Unless, this boy is much smaller than average, like mine. Which would be memorable regardless of why. A medical practitioner may remember him due to that.

When height growth stalls they worry about growth hormone issues and bone age. When weight gain stalls they worry about adequate nutrition and whether it's being adequately absorbed and processed. They do blood work and x-rays to check these things. Or if the child had some sort of special needs that could also explain being a smaller size.

Just to give people an idea of how the size would be relative to the age, here are the stats:

A 3 year old boy (as in DOB 10-23-2014) would be about 10% in height and 25% in weight. This is a perfectly reasonable size without any intervention occurring.

A 3.5 year old boy (as in DOB 4-23-2014) would be about 5% for height and 25% for weight. Testing may start at this point depending on the child's growth curve prior to it. If they had always been about 5% it wouldn't be a concern. If they were dropping down then it'd be an issue.

A 4 year old boy (as in DOB 10-23-2013) would be off the charts short and about 10% in weight. There would definitely be testing done to ensure the child was not experiencing any health issues, to account for lack of height.

A 4.5 year old boy (as in DOB 4-23-2013) would be off the charts short and just barely clinging to the chart in weight.

A 5 year old boy (as in DOB 10-23-2013) would be off the charts in both areas and likely extremely unhealthy or with other health issues.

That is all of course presuming that this little boy ever even saw a doctor. The height and weight could be accurate because he was a starved 5 year old. I hope not though.

I think both Sean and Marcos are unlikely if their height and Baby Boy Doe's height is correct. That would be a HUGE height growth spurt for either of them.

(Though I also don't think Sean's stats are right anyway. He would be very very very short and very very very chubby at those stats. Completely off the charts both directions. He does not look that way to me though I've only seen the one picture. So maybe he is within the realm of possibility.)

I couldn't find a height and weight for Rodolfo. Those kids aren't listed in NCMEC.

Sorry for the novel. I hope this little boy with the big brown eyes has his name back soon.

 

[DakotaMayi]

I got caught up with poor little Sherin so I have just gotten back over to this thread. Glad to see a sketch has been released, what a beauty and also glad to see Lois has created it.

 

[Lyssav]

Thanks for including these little guys, Gardener and Lyssa. I did see those two little boys but thought one boy* lived (maybe?) a bit far away from Galveston and the other boy was abducted by his Mum with his siblings.

(*It’s concerning that Marco’s Mum has a mugshot though.)

One article I came across said that Marcos was under the care of CPS when his mother took off with him and that he was in the care of CPS because mom was a known drug user - which would explain the mugshot. Longview, TX is north of the island, around 260miles away.

 

[Sleuthin' n TX]

Several things:
1. The ME will determine if drowned or not and child's age
2. For those not familiar with that area, the beach is vast...lots of sand to have to walk through so doubtful the child may have wandered out there, but not to be ruled out
3. LE stated that they have checked all area missing children and have not come up with a match
4. Galveston has tons of CCTV available so the time of death may be important
5. Link to most recent: http://abc13.com/police-search-for-identity-of-child-found-dead-on-beach/2555731/

My hope is this child's identity is quickly determined. IMOO

 

[Sleuthin' n TX]

Also, LE stated that "bodies don't normally turn up on the beach here, let alone the body of a small child".....currents, environment, etc. play a role in all that, IMOO

 

[Lyssav]

And when a body does turn up, there is always a story behind it - someone saw a swimmer go under and never come back up or was with the swimmer when a current took them under. We didn't know to look for this little one because there was never a report of a lost swimmer.

 

[Inthedetails]

Do we know for sure he was washed up from the ocean? Could he have been left there on the beach? It seems like it was an isolated part of the beach, not where beach-goers normally go, is that right? Maybe someone placed him there?

We'll know more when COD is released, of course, as ME will be able to determine if he was in the water.

jmopinion

 

[DakotaMayi]

Do we know for sure he was washed up from the ocean? Could he have been left there on the beach? It seems like it was an isolated part of the beach, not where beach-goers normally go, is that right? Maybe someone placed him there?

We'll know more when COD is released, of course, as ME will be able to determine if he was in the water.

jmopinion

I don't think we know for sure he was ever in the water. He could have been placed there.

 

[Sleuthin' n TX]

I don't think we know for sure he was ever in the water. He could have been placed there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.3069855,-94.7759331,15.94z

Although where he was found appears to be close to populated areas, the beach is very wide and, oddly enough, poorly visible to others when you are on the beach. Although at night has better lighting than it used to, still poorly lit. We had a boat docked at the Galveston Yacht Basin so am very familiar with that area and the vicinity. That part of the island has lots of 'grey areas'. All MOO.

 

[Inthedetails]

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.3069855,-94.7759331,15.94z

Although where he was found appears to be close to populated areas, the beach is very wide and, oddly enough, poorly visible to others when you are on the beach. Although at night has better lighting than it used to, still poorly lit. We had a boat docked at the Galveston Yacht Basin so am very familiar with that area and the vicinity. That part of the island has lots of 'grey areas'. All MOO.

Thanks for the info. I'm always glad when locals are on a case.

jmo

 

[Lyssav]

Do we know for sure he was washed up from the ocean? Could he have been left there on the beach? It seems like it was an isolated part of the beach, not where beach-goers normally go, is that right? Maybe someone placed him there?

We'll know more when COD is released, of course, as ME will be able to determine if he was in the water.

jmopinion

At this point LE isn't sure if he washed up or if his body was placed there. At a press conference one reporter asks if the body was actually found in the water, and if I remember correctly they said at the time of discovery the body was found adjacent to the water and located about 20-30ft away from the tide.

 

[Lyssav]

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.3069855,-94.7759331,15.94z

Although where he was found appears to be close to populated areas, the beach is very wide and, oddly enough, poorly visible to others when you are on the beach. Although at night has better lighting than it used to, still poorly lit. We had a boat docked at the Galveston Yacht Basin so am very familiar with that area and the vicinity. That part of the island has lots of 'grey areas'. All MOO.

That area of the beach is definitely isolated as it is one of the few areas of our beach that is well protected by a large area of grassy dunes - making a walk out to the water much longer than it would be a couple of miles west of there. There are a few eateries, gas stations and surf shops close to the area but like you said, at night it is poorly lit.

 

[wfgodot]

I don't think we know for sure he was ever in the water. He could have been placed there.

At first I assumed he'd washed in with the tide, based on LE's initial statement in the OP:

Schirard also said that bodies in the water decompose more slowly than those on land, so it is difficult to estimate how long the child had been dead without a more thorough examination.

But now....placed in the surf at low tide or in the water in an ebbing tide seems to be the best guess.

 

[scoutxo]

I do not know if anyone has posted this yet but I spoke with the Hawkins County Sheriff's Office this morning to confirm:

Isaiah Daniel Juarez of Hawkins County (Rogersville, TN) has *officially* been ruled out as a possible match for this little angel.

I am sorry if this has already been posted, I am in a rush this morning and did not have time to read all pages of this thread.

Link to MSM post about Isaiah: http://wate.com/2017/05/02/officials-look-for-missing-hawkins-county-boy/

I can cross post to Isaiah's thread if it has not been posted yet.

ETA: I have also posted to Isaiah's thread. I am interested in speaking to a moderator about additional information received on Isaiah and whether or not it is within forum rules to be posted. If someone could let me know how to go about contacting a moderator I would very much appreciate it.

 

[LucyOso]

If he was placed on the beach, wouldn't someone bury him in the sand? It just seems looking on the map its an effort to get there, then to leave him exposed seems strange.

 

[carbuff]

Just guessing here: could somebody have taken the body out to sea, not realizing it would wash in to shore? Maybe tied to a weight that worked itself loose or something?

 

[Lyssav]

If he was placed on the beach, wouldn't someone bury him in the sand? It just seems looking on the map its an effort to get there, then to leave him exposed seems strange.

If placed there, my guess is someone wanted him to be found.