TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #18

[dodie20]

Ugh, well I might be back on the fence now.

Going IN to the NG show, I was quite sure that SA was responsible for HDs disappearance, with the assistance of Billie (only was uncertain as to whether she was fully involved, or only involved after/in a cover up for SA), but now after watching BDs interview I'm starting to wonder if she isn't just hOrribly, horribly naive when it comes to SA, and has been in denial about him likely having harmed her daughter?? :waitasec:

he threatened to kill her & her daughter, about a year ago. The cops were involved. no naivete, here.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Yep. When people speak its important to listen to what they say as first, second, third. Its kinda like a subliminal priority rank. Twice she has said - "the important thing people need to remember is not slandering me" (or words to that effect). There's her first priority. People shouldn't be slandering me. Second priorty is that her 13 year old daughter is missing.

Yes, she has made these statements in that order on two separate occasions.

 

[concernedmother]

I think Hailey was going anywhere she could to get away from him, friends, out in the yard, shed. Anywhere.

 

[ajk]

Hailey was afraid of Shawn. Her friend had posted about it somewhere that she had Facebook inbox proof of Hailey saying that she was afraid of him. I really and truly believe that Billie flunked her poly because of being lied to by Shawn which would also explain the inconsistencies that Billie has had. I think that he sexually abused her and that is what is comment about Hailey being promiscuous was about. Maybe this was why she was afraid of him?

lord i hope not.

 

[carmenU]

In the affidavits ....they claim she said she withdrew money to purchase illegal drugs.

IMO That's better than a link to the MSM

<modsnip> Therefore, I realize LE are humans and able to be just as wrong as the people who are arrested. Just because LE says it doesn't make it so. Especially, in a high profile case.
No one else, has come forward to say she is a drug addict. I find it hard to believe they would say they were buying illegal drugs. But that doesn't make you a murderer.
I know many hear are bashing BO and saying she killed Hailey or is involved.But for what reason would she kill her daughter or cover it up? There has been no evidence that she is that kind of person.
I will just wait until there is more evidence before hanging her.

Going to bed, I will wait for more news tomorrow. Hopefully, their will be credible evidence. I don;t want to hang anyone on speculation. Have a good night, ladies.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I wanted Nancy to ask her if she was aware that he liked to play dress up like a mass murderer. Then throw up a few pics of him, in action, on the tv screen, to see Billies reaction!

It would be real interesting if she said, "oh yeah...we always do fun stuff like that...it's just a hobby."

 

[StrayKat]

i think he made the calls to look like he was in bigspring. if im remembering right he didnt make any calls when he was in colorado city but he made sure he made calls in big spring incase he had to proove that he was there. hince the 11 calls in big spring. in doing so he didnt realize the phone picked up pings even tho he wasnt using it.IMO

I guess it was turned of from 7 to 9? What do you think? IMHO.
Other POI's?

 

[yllek]

BD tonight on NG:

"I checked on Hailey on Monday morning, didn't touch her to make sure it was her... to put my mind at ease" (paraphrasing). The words matter. To me, she unintentionally admitted she was uneasy concerning Hailey that morning. Why? She was "kinda upset that Hailey didn't ask" her directly for permission to stay over at MB's Monday night, but she wasn't uneasy about it and didn't check on her. Now, I'm supposed to believe Hailey was chilling and watching tv on Sunday night, no problems or worries, yet BD had to check in on her to ease her mind 8 hours later because she's such a "wonderful mom" and uneasy unless she verifies that her daughter is safely sleeping in her bed before heading to work. Not working for me. Neah, she said she checked and hedged (again) by not just saying "yes, I saw my daughter in bed Monday morning" because she knows Hailey left the house with SA that morning. If that is proven, BD will be able to say she was in the dark because she never claimed to have seen (or touched) Hailey directly. She was a duped victim, again! Another pre-emptive move, imo. I really believe Hailey was doomed on the night of Sunday, 12/26... JMO and respect all other differing opinions...

 

[Linda7NJ]

Well, LE hasn't really been consistant in anything they said. I guess I am tainted because the Justice Dept is in my city with several policeman found guilty in "creating evidence" and covering up for each other. Therefore, I realize LE are humans and able to be just as wrong as the people who are arrested. Just because LE says it doesn't make it so. Especially, in a high profile case.
No one else, has come forward to say she is a drug addict. I find it hard to believe they would say they were buying illegal drugs. But that doesn't make you a murderer.
I know many hear are bashing BO and saying she killed Hailey or is involved.But for what reason would she kill her daughter or cover it up? There has been no evidence that she is that kind of person.
I will just wait until there is more evidence before hanging her.

Going to bed, I will wait for more news tomorrow. Hopefully, their will be credible evidence. I don;t want to hang anyone on speculation. Have a good night, ladies.

Maybe so...but on this one I am going with LE. It's written down, signed and sworn to be the truth.

 

[SusanB]

Hi all, I am trying so hard to keep up with this case, but the twists and turns are difficult to keep up with! :waitasec: Maybe you all can help me with a couple things:
1. I miss the part about the abuse that occurred in Feb 2010 - what happened?
2. I missed about the affidavits - where can I find them to read? About the ATM use and removal of $140.00 - what night was that? Mon or Tues?
3.Can you explain about the missing camera cards? I totally missed that.
IMO SA proclaimed that HD was promiscuous to cover signs of sexual abuse (by him), and that she used drugs to cover maybe he gave her some to sedate her or whatever.
I am getting a little tired of the mother playing "poor me." People like that get on my nerves. Start standing up and demanding answers as to where her child is instead of mealy mouthing "don't hate me."
Thanks to all and of course this is completely MOO!

 

[Suthrnqt]

Texas, all my life....to me it sounded like she was saying SHE and her rep were more important.

ITA with your post.....because that is exactly what she said. I've been Southern my whole entire life by way of TX, TN and finally NC. Even though I was stationed in Germany and lived in upstate NY for about 5 years, I was/am still Southern.

I have no problem understanding her when she speaks, just don't believe a word she says. She has a habit of going around the mountain when asked a question instead of just giving a straight answer.

Also wanted to add that if I thought for one minute my BF had something to do w/my daughter's disappearance, my baseball bat and his head would have a meeting until I found out what I needed to know to get her back.

 

[Redbird]

BD is so sincere, so down to earth, so convincing, I still can't believe she is not innocent, partly because I don't want to believe someone this personable could hurt their child. Still want to believe her.

 

[Ellebelle]

Well, LE hasn't really been consistant in anything they said. I guess I am tainted because the Justice Dept is in my city with several policeman found guilty in "creating evidence" and covering up for each other. Therefore, I realize LE are humans and able to be just as wrong as the people who are arrested. Just because LE says it doesn't make it so. Especially, in a high profile case.
No one else, has come forward to say she is a drug addict. I find it hard to believe they would say they were buying illegal drugs. But that doesn't make you a murderer.
I know many hear are bashing BO and saying she killed Hailey or is involved.But for what reason would she kill her daughter or cover it up? There has been no evidence that she is that kind of person.
I will just wait until there is more evidence before hanging her.

Going to bed, I will wait for more news tomorrow. Hopefully, their will be credible evidence. I don;t want to hang anyone on speculation. Have a good night, ladies.

BBM
It's not bashing, IMO. It's called noting BD inconsistencies and discussing them, along with our theories.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

BD tonight on NG:

"I checked on Hailey on Monday morning, didn't touch her to make sure it was her... to put my mind at ease" (paraphrasing). The words matter. To me, she unintentionally admitted she was uneasy concerning Hailey that morning. Why? She was "kinda upset that Hailey didn't ask" her directly for permission to stay over at MB's Monday night, but she wasn't uneasy about it and didn't check on her. Now, I'm supposed to believe Hailey was chilling and watching tv on Sunday night, no problems or worries, yet BD had to check in on her to ease her mind 8 hours later because she's such a "wonderful mom" and uneasy unless she verifies that her daughter is safely sleeping in her bed before heading to work. Not working for me. Neah, she said she checked and hedged (again) by not just saying "yes, I saw my daughter in bed Monday morning" because she knows Hailey left the house with SA that morning. If that is proven, BD will be able to say she was in the dark because she never claimed to have seen (or touched) Hailey directly. She was a duped victim, again! Another pre-emptive move, imo. I really believe Hailey was doomed on the night of Sunday, 12/26... JMO and respect all other differing opinions...

BBM
That's how I read it too.

 

[KathrynL]

SusanB - link for affidavits
http://bigcountryhomepage.com/images/Multi_Media/bigcountryhomepage/nxd_media/dox/pdf/2011_01/HaileyDunnAffidavits.PDF

 

[SuziQ]

I wonder if Shawn saying that Hailey is promiscuous was him saying that he was abusing her without really admitting it? Do you guys get what I am saying?

More like a CYA move. I think he's explaining evidence because he knows what it will show when it's found.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I would be pounding on the door where Shawn's staying and demanding some answers from him. If I were innocent, I would be begging the FBI to wire me up to go meet with him...bug my phone and I'd call him. I would be LOUD and DEMANDING answers. Not playing a meek and mild deer in the headlights that doesn't have a clue about any of it. That's for darn sure.

 

[tehcloser]

I think people hear what they want to hear. If they think she is guilty everything she says make her even more so. If they think she is innocent they hear it that way. My daughter went missing a couple of months ago. She was not at a friends that she told me she was going to. She was at a party that I knew nothing about with kids I didn't know. The police asked what did she have on? I didn't have a clue. They asked are these friends of hers, I said No I had never seen these kids. They asked what time she left the house I had no idea. Because I didn't know the answers to their questions it made me look like a bad parent. I may be a bad parent but I thought I knew her every move. ( I always thought I was a good parent until I had teenagers) This behavior was like a punch coming out of no where. What I learned is that teenagers are very sneaky and no matter how much I snoop she pulled one over on me. I was so shocked I couldn't think. I guess that is why I don't like to judge parents. If there is evidence then that's a different story.

I'm so very sorry you went through that. And I'm also sorry that you think I'm judging parents. I'm just looking at a case and following the evidence we have at the moment.

 

[ajk]

:waitasec:confused i was talking about the nancy grace tonight when she had the map up, when she was able to keep it up,:floorlaugh:

 

[Linda7NJ]

BD is so sincere, so down to earth, so convincing, I still can't believe she is not innocent, partly because I don't want to believe someone this personable could hurt their child. Still want to believe her.

I agree with you she is convincing,...but I won't let myself get sucked in again.