TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #23

[cluciano63]

While I think that is wonderful, I am not sure a church would be equipped or experienced in the type of help I was hoping for Clint. I was thinking something more along the lines of Klass Kids type help and support. As I said some of our long time sleuthers would know better WHO would come out and help the parents at their request .. hoping someone gets the information to Clint.

Most churches have links or contacts to counseling services, I know Catholic churches do and I think others do as well. They do here in NM.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

marijauna...THC..is classfied as a narcotic.

That's what my Texas Code research came up with as well, but I hesitated to post lest there had been a recent amendment I wasn't seeing. Thanks for the verification.

 

[belimom]

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I saw him and BD on NG during those interviews they had together and I don't think he once looked at BD during any of those interviews. You could see the tension between them.

I do remember him looking at her but with a 'What are you talking about?' look... I saw that same look in the very first video of them as well, at a community center or school or something.

 

[katydid23]

I'm really curious about the 3 phone calls to "Billie" that SA deleted from his call list in front of LE. BD claims that she left her cell phone home on Monday for the kids to use, so did SA make these phone calls to HD (DD wasn't home) or did BD take her cell to work with her because she knew neither child was home?

I am so CONFUSED about the phones still. She says she left the cell phone home for the kids to use. So that LE map of the 2 cell phones pinging off the towers; one is for BD's phone. So WHO had that phone? Hailey or Billie? Or the big brother. ????? Or did SA have both???

 

[lynnb]

Earlier someone asked if we knew where BD worked. Cogdell Memorial Hospital is the correct spelling.
http://www.cogdellhospital.com/

 

[redsky]

Where did BD work? was it in the same vicinity of SA's work? I still am trying to figure out why he went to work that day. He left after 10 mins I wanna know why he drove there in the first place.

The golden question: WHY DID HE DRIVE TO WORK THAT DAY?

I think he did it for several reasons:
1>so his phone would ping in the area of work (notice that shortly after left his 10 minute work day, his cell stops pinging altogether for over 2 hours) once it's back one is in a different area from work.
2>wanted his boss/coworkers to see him in hopes of an alibi
3> He really needed that soda badly.

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

Didn't Billi say this morning that if SA was found to have no involvement that she wanted him back? Or did I dream that?

Oh! But don't forget! Billie also said that if Shawn has anything to do with this, she "will never speak to him again."

Maybe it's just me, but I would be more inclined to run the guy over with my SUV!!!

jmo

 

[justus4all]

I'm really curious about the 3 phone calls to "Billie" that SA deleted from his call list in front of LE. BD claims that she left her cell phone home on Monday for the kids to use, so did SA make these phone calls to HD (DD wasn't home) or did BD take her cell to work with her because she knew neither child was home?

good questions...makes me think, tho..can the LE find thru BD and SA's phone provider not only the calls made and received...but the call lists they entered on their phones?????...The LE may find out that way....

I have a suspicion that today the phone providers are very "hi tech"..and electronically store everything ...anyone know for sure??? thanks

 

[Zoe Bogart]

Hailey's half sister C**** wears a tiny shirt with her missing sister's picture on it.

Clint says he's holding C**** a little tighter than usual, "The stress and everything," Clint said, "I'm tired."

http://www.ktxs.com/news/26501844/detail.html

I think the image of that Hailey's baby sister wearing a "Help Find My Sister" onesie has to got be the most heartbreaking thing I've seen in this case.

Both of Clint's girls have his eyes. Beautiful.

As I watched that video, I kept recalling another case with a little sister of the same name, "C". It's Haleigh Cummings whose little half-sister has the same "C" name. OMG! Too eerie for words.

That poor dad looks shellshocked, stunned, and sad, nothing like the mother who's still contemplating whether or not she should take her "boyfriend" back.

 

[curiousc]

The golden question: WHY DID HE DRIVE TO WORK THAT DAY?

I think he did it for several reasons:
1>so his phone would ping in the area of work (notice that shortly after left his 10 minute work day, his cell stops pinging altogether for over 2 hours) once it's back one is in a different area from work.
2>wanted his boss/coworkers to see him in hopes of an alibi
3> He really needed that soda badly.

I think it was #3. LOL

Seriously, #1 is probably the most valid reason I have heard so far.

 

[mahoneys07]

I am so CONFUSED about the phones still. She says she left the cell phone home for the kids to use. So that LE map of the 2 cell phones pinging off the towers; one is for BD's phone. So WHO had that phone? Hailey or Billie? Or the big brother. ????? Or did SA have both???

Neither...the tower it pinged was the same tower they would from home

 

[concernedmother]

The turning point for Clint was probably finding out about "her hobby". He knew her for 20 years and she never had "that hobby" before. He has probably heard about the videos too. Mix her hobby and SA hobby and a missing daughter and something stinks.

I was thinking today about her excuse for all the mags and paper. She wanted to find out about people that aren't like us.
I can honestly say I do not know any 24 yr old dressing up in masks, swords and guns in hand and acting like a serial killer. That just doesn't seem "like us."

 

[SmoothOperator]

Hailey's Dad Suspected Adkins From The Beginning


http://www.ktxs.com/news/26501844/detail.html

My heart goes out to this daddy.. Clint is going to DO what it takes to see his baby girl come home.. I am very well aware that everyone grieves differently, that everyone reacts to stress differently.. I get that, I believe that, and I see that in the numerous cases that I've followed closely..but you take this above video{the one thats at the link I posted above}and there's just no mistaking honest, true, reactions and demeanors that human beings display{yes, I get not every human is the same, but the demeanor, the feelings and emotions at the core of the stressor IMO all are somehow similar and easily spotted when you see them}.. and Clint Dunn is displaying those easily spotted demeanors, reactions, etc.. It's a "real" feeling that exudes from this man, a raw and even painful demeanor and words that he's speaking..It's "REAL"..

What I mean by "REAL" is the unmistakable raw emotion, not phoneyed, not acted, aped, or mimicked.. Real and true.. His pain is visible and it touches you strait thru your computer screen directly to your heart.. You can feel this man's pain.. IMO that which I am describing CANNOT BE FAKED, MIMICKED, OR ACTED because from one human being to another you can feel anothers pain, sadness, anguish, helplessness, and frustration..I do not care, nor even if I did would it be my place to judge or question this man's life, his choices, mistakes, or skeletons in a closet{and we all have them}..none of that matters.. As another human being that feels compassion/sympathy/empathy I cannot help but be touched at my depths of this daddy and his pure love for his "baby girl".. My hearts aches for Clint tonight, and I pray that God gives him the strength to face these upcoming days, weeks, and months because as most of us know{we still pray and hope}but most know that what is in this daddy's future are some very, very dark and extremely difficult of days.. I do not worry that justice on Hailey's behalf will not be sought, found, and delivvered{as I do worry in Haleigh Cummings case that justice may never happen, cuz there IS NO ONE FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE FOR PRECIOUS HALEIGH CUMMINGS}..

BUT I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THIS DADDY, CLINT DUNN WILL FIGHT til the end to ENSURE THAT JUSTICE FOR HIS BABY GIRL, HAILEY IS FOUND, SERVED, AND SWIFTLY FACED WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF TAKING HIS BABY GIRL'S LIFE...

I just wanted to add one other thought that i came away with after having watched Clint Dunn in the above vid clip.. and that is that all of those many, many, obvious and raw emotions and demeanors that I spoke of above...well, THEY ARE ALL VOID/LACKING IN BD.. I keep on giving benefit of the doubt to her, I find myself continuing to toss and turn her actions, words, etc round and round trying to find valid reasons or excuses for why these things are void in Billie..

And after having watched Clint in this vid it only makes BD's lack of only that more obvious, visible, and awkwardly and uncomfortably absent.. COMPLETELY ABSENT..

THIS DISTURBS ME GREATLY..

 

[Soulmagent]

I am so CONFUSED about the phones still. She says she left the cell phone home for the kids to use. So that LE map of the 2 cell phones pinging off the towers; one is for BD's phone. So WHO had that phone? Hailey or Billie? Or the big brother. ????? Or did SA have both???

Thats what I was looking for thanks.

I think he did have both phones. That is why he deleted the phone calls in the LE office maybe??

Because he knows billie didnt make the calls and she left her phone.

 

[sarx]

Under the controlled Substance Act, Marijuana is a schedule 1 substance. It is not a narcotic. A narcotic is that of an opiate or with opiate like properties/effects. There has been some broadening, but not to marijuana, it doesn't fit the bill.

 

[mahoneys07]

I think it was #3. LOL

Seriously, #1 is probably the most valid reason I have heard so far.

I think 2...I dont think he is intelligent enough to know about pings and how they work ect.

 

[curiousc]

Hailey's Dad Suspected Adkins From The Beginning


http://www.ktxs.com/news/26501844/detail.html

My heart goes out to this daddy.. Clint is going to DO what it takes to see his baby girl come home.. I am very well aware that everyone grieves differently, that everyone reacts to stress differently.. I get that, I believe that, and I see that in the numerous cases that I've followed closely..but you take this above video{the one thats at the link I posted above}and there's just no mistaking honest, true, reactions and demeanors that human beings display{yes, I get not every human is the same, but the demeanor, the feelings and emotions at the core of the stressor IMO all are somehow similar and easily spotted when you see them}.. and Clint Dunn is displaying those easily spotted demeanors, reactions, etc.. It's a "real" feeling that exudes from this man, a raw and even painful demeanor and words that he's speaking..It's "REAL"..

What I mean by "REAL" is the unmistakable raw emotion, not phoneyed, not acted, aped, or mimicked.. Real and true.. His pain is visible and it touches you strait thru your computer screen directly to your heart.. You can feel this man's pain.. IMO that which I am describing CANNOT BE FAKED, MIMICKED, OR ACTED because from one human being to another you can feel anothers pain, sadness, anguish, helplessness, and frustration..I do not care, nor even if I did would it be my place to judge or question this man's life, his choices, mistakes, or skeletons in a closet{and we all have them}..none of that matters.. As another human being that feels compassion/sympathy/empathy I cannot help but be touched at my depths of this daddy and his pure love for his "baby girl".. My hearts aches for Clint tonight, and I pray that God gives him the strength to face these upcoming days, weeks, and months because as most of us know{we still pray and hope}but most know that what is in this daddy's future are some very, very dark and extremely difficult of days.. I do not worry that justice on Hailey's behalf will not be sought, found, and delivvered{as I do worry in Haleigh Cummings case that justice may never happen, cuz there IS NO ONE FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE FOR PRECIOUS HALEIGH CUMMINGS}..

BUT I KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THIS DADDY, CLINT DUNN WILL FIGHT til the end to ENSURE THAT JUSTICE FOR HIS BABY GIRL, HAILEY IS FOUND, SERVED, AND SWIFTLY FACED WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF TAKING HIS BABY GIRL'S LIFE...

I just wanted to add one other thought that i came away with after having watched Clint Dunn in the above vid clip.. and that is that all of those many, many, obvious and raw emotions and demeanors that I spoke of above...well, THEY ARE ALL VOID/LACKING IN BD.. I keep on giving benefit of the doubt to her, I find myself continuing to toss and turn her actions, words, etc round and round trying to find valid reasons or excuses for why these things are void in Billie..

And after having watched Clint in this vid it only makes BD's lack of only that more obvious, visible, and awkwardly and uncomfortably absent.. COMPLETELY ABSENT..

THIS DISTURBS ME GREATLY..

Fabulous post!

 

[tehcloser]

Thats what I was looking for thanks.

I think he did have both phones. That is why he deleted the phone calls in the LE office maybe??

Because he knows billie didnt make the calls and she left her phone.

If he had both phones, they both would have pinged in the Snyder area when he went to work. And what calls didn't Billie make?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Thats what I was looking for thanks.

I think he did have both phones. That is why he deleted the phone calls in the LE office maybe??

Because he knows billie didnt make the calls and she left her phone.

I guess I missed something. I keep seeing posts referencing the Billie calls that SA deleted in front of LE. But I don't remember those deleted calls being identified. Can someone direct me to the document/report that says the deleted calls were to or from Billie? Thanks, I appreciate it!

 

[Padua]

Say what you see, we like that:rocker:

I will say this. She goes on NG EVERY NIGHT...no answers. lets her children roam freely. Has a live in BF. Bought a QP of weed...has a NYE party. BD knows what happend to her child. If she was hiding from her mother in another city someone would see her. Just saying.

The family dynamics amazes me. paternal father living across the field...grandmother bringing on accusations. Buying a load of weed before her NYE party. HD was not BD's primary focus.

This is a sickening scenario.