TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #26

[winterrose]

The Sheriff's Dept in Ballinger,Texas has confirmed Samantha Robin Cavazos and her boyfriend are both missing.This is bad,because they're probably runaways,but on the other hand I feel there's no connection to Hailey's case.

 

[passionflower]

If this link is not allowed I apologize in advance Mods. I have read a few things this guy has posted in Kyron's case, wondered if anyone here considers his analysis valid?

ETA: guess I answered my own question as the link did not show up. If anyone cares to google, it's seamusoriley.

did you see the polls!!!

 

[MD MOMMY]

First off WinterRose...excellent find!

Everyone should really take the time to watch these....wow, just wow!

He is obviously nervous and trying really hard not to appear nervous. He is staring, trying not to blink, his head is almost going in circles b/c he's trying not to subconciously shake it in the "no" position, he is trying to calm himself down by laboring his breathing, his ears and chest start to pink up.....I need to go back and watch them several times.

Most telling is when he shakes his head no when saying "i hope she comes home safe and sound." Yikers.

 

[Melanie]

did you see the polls!!!

polls? what polls?

Thanks!

Mel

 

[captdj]

First off WinterRose...excellent find!

Everyone should really take the time to watch these....wow, just wow!

He is obviously nervous and trying really hard not to appear nervous. He is staring, trying not to blink, his head is almost going in circles b/c he's trying not to subconciously shake it in the "no" position, he is trying to calm himself down by laboring his breathing, his ears and chest start to pink up.....I need to go back and watch them several times.

He doesnt like Nancy Grace the interview Billie had with her...when her name was mentioned he blinks hard and cringles...

Another interesting point...when he came in a 3pm Hailey is watching TV in the living room and 15 minutes later out the door with nothing...


He says it was normal the way she comes and goes....to tell him to tell Bllie...

He stumbled when asked about his relationship with Hailey
"its a real um really good relationship"

Then there's a lot of head shaking NO when he is saying yes....

But other than being nervious and some face twicking....and a few details about their relationship he did pretty good....and looked a lot better without the mask...


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907

 

[passionflower]

okay, I'm out in left field, what is a slip knot t.
I googled and saw allot of skeletons and acid remarks, then rock bands?????

 

[winterrose]

He doesnt like Nancy Grace the interview Billie had with her...when her name was mentioned he blinks hard and cringles...

But other than being nervious and some face twicking....and a few details about their relationship he did pretty good....and looked a lot better without the mask...


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907

and the knife and chainsaw.

 

[passionflower]

polls? what polls?

Thanks!

Mel

on knox post.........link not allowed

 

[yllek]

and the knife and chainsaw.

And the crack pipe...

 

[SmoothOperator]

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907 Not sure if this has been posted.

Thanks winterrose, I had not seen these raw video clips, so thanks for posting{if they were posted before I missed them}..

I agree with mgardner when she used the word "Robot". But you know who I would really like to speak with and definitely get her insight and opinion..is that Priscilla Luong..she's the one thats talking to them in these raw videos as well as she is the one that seems that Billie is still most comfortable with and has her in their home quite frequently..

I get the feeling that shes gained Billie's trust in a way.. Even when Billie is being interviewed by different stations I have still heard her speak of "Priscilla"{one time that comes to mind is she was stating that she had had Priscilla get all of her prescription meds/bottles on video tape}..

She would be someone that would be COMPLETELY UNBIASED AND WOULD HAVE AN OBJECTIVE VIEW ON THE SITUATION..

I would really like to hear what her views, opinions. and just what she'd have to say..What was her feeling when speaking to SA in that raw video? I sensed discomfort, and an odd uneasy feeling..but of course thats my opinion... I would really like to hear and know hers..

Again thanks for the link

 

[mck16]

He doesnt like Nancy Grace the interview Billie had with her...when her name was mentioned he blinks hard and cringles...

Another interesting point...when he came in a 3pm Hailey is watching TV in the living room and 15 minutes later out the door with nothing...


He says it was normal the way she comes and goes....to tell him to tell Bllie...

He stumbled when asked about his relationship with Hailey
"its a real um really good relationship"

Then there's a lot of head shaking NO when he is saying yes....

But other than being nervious and some face twicking....and a few details about their relationship he did pretty good....and looked a lot better without the mask...


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907

There was also a lot of head shaking yes throughout the interview. Just to give him the benefit of the doubt. Those interviews did not bother me because I can see lots of reasons for him doing the actions he did. Nerves would be my number one reason. I am not sure what I would look like or how I would be perceived in a situation like that.

Not saying I don't think he could be involved, but I would not form that opinion based on those interviews. jmo

 

[yllek]

SA says the police said She ( Hailey) didnt take anything with her...

I thought he saw her leave at 3:15PM..wouldnt he have noticed that instead of police



http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907

Good point; really good point.

 

[peeples]

okay, I'm out in left field, what is a slip knot t.
I googled and saw allot of skeletons and acid remarks, then rock bands?????

Slipknot is the name of a band from Iowa.
The tee is short for T-shirt

 

[MsFacetious]

This article has Billie as a suspect too...

http://thenewsportalonline.com/hailey-dunn-missing-cheerleader-girl-from-texas-still-missing/118319/

This has no new information. It took it's information from the affidavits, assuming that Billie is a suspect. Likely combined with the headline that said the affidavits pointed to Billie and Shawn.

LE (or even the city manager) has NOT come out with a statement and said "Billie is a suspect in this case in addition to Shawn Adkins." It just hasn't happened.

People might say it's obvious to assume and I definitely think they are treating her like a person of interest. However, they HAVE stated Shawn is a suspect so I do think there is a difference between the two.

I just relistened to it,I misunderstood her and I have a southern accent also.LOL I thought when she said that,it was a good idea,because noone knows what happened,if it was in that neighborhood or in the house.For her and a child to be staying in the house,maybe wouldn't be safe.

I actually figured that if she didn't stay in the house, that would be absurd.

She has asked Hailey in interviews to come home. Also said if she didn't want to come home, to go to Nana's or somewhere else. But what if Hailey did come home and then nobody was there?

I think with all the media and family there Billie will be okay, but she needs to stay there. Can you imagine the reaction if Billie left the house that her daughter might return to? :waitasec:


Interview where Billie says what I referenced above, about 2:30 into it:

http://www.reporternews.com/videos/detail/hailey-dunn-news-conference/

Here is where she says Shawn is not staying at the house. Lots of people misunderstood her and thought she meant herself. Very beginning of the video.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=331666


To clarify...

Billie has NOT said she isn't staying at the house.

Billie IS staying at her house and there has not been any report to contradict that.

Billie's mother is staying at Billie's house with her according to Billie's friend who has been there.


Shawn is staying with HIS grandmother in Dunn - this has been widely reported.


There has been NO inconsistency in this whatsoever. Only misunderstandings.


Also, the cousin's sister AN is NOT missing anymore. She is living in Texas.

The cousin who is close friends with Shawn does NOT live in Texas and was allegedly not in the state for Christmas.

 

[passionflower]

body language! on blog radio..........same link as Levi Page

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/peter-hyatt/2011/01/16/the-peter-hyatt-show

thanks KNOX

 

[ZsaZsa]

I don't know if this is old news since I am just catching up on this story, but it seems Shawn Adkins has threatened Billie and Hailey before, when Police were called...

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...named-person-of-interest-teen-s-disappearance

 

[lillys]

First off WinterRose...excellent find!

Everyone should really take the time to watch these....wow, just wow!

He is obviously nervous and trying really hard not to appear nervous. He is staring, trying not to blink, his head is almost going in circles b/c he's trying not to subconciously shake it in the "no" position, he is trying to calm himself down by laboring his breathing, his ears and chest start to pink up.....I need to go back and watch them several times.

That was freaky for me to watch. SA was very controlled. He imoo purposely slowed his breathing, his swallowing, his head movement and he did not blink for most of the interview.

I may be way off base but imoo he's guilty as heck.

 

[captdj]

Hailey Dunn Timeline


Sun, Dec 26


Unknown: Hailey returns home from an overnight Christmas visit with her dad.

09:00:00 PM: Hailey's brother sees Hailey playing a video game in the living room as he leaves the house. Last reliable sign of life from Hailey.

10:00:00 PM: Billie sees Hailey watching TV in her room.



Mon, Dec 27


Unknown: Billie looks in on Hailey in bed in her room. Is unsure if she's really there.

05:30:00 AM: Shawn leaves for work. 24.9 miles/36 minutes Colorado City <> Snyder. 5:30am + 36 min = 6:06am

06:00:00 AM: Shawn arrives at work, gets a Dr. Pepper, sees supervisor, does not speak to anyone.

06:06:00 AM: Estimated arrival time at work for Shawn. 5:30am + 36 min = 6:06am

06:10:00 AM: Shawn leaves work. 24.9 miles/36 minutes Colorado City <> Snyder. 6:10am + 36 min = 6:46am.

06:20:00 AM: Billie leaves for work, picked up by co-worker. Billie leaves cell phone home for the kids to use.

06:35:00 AM: Shawn returns to Colorado City, where Hailey's home is located.

06:46:00 AM: Estimated arrival time at Colorado City for Shawn from 6:10am. 6:10am + 36 min = 6:46am.

06:56:00 AM: Shawn's cell phone stops pinging in Colorado City. 38 miles/41 minutes between Colorado City <> Big Spring. 6:56am + 41 min = 7:37am

07:37:00 AM: Estimated arrival time at Big Spring for Shawn from 6:56am. 6:56am + 41 min = 7:37am

09:38:00 AM: Shawn arrives in Big Spring, where his mother's home is. Shawn makes 11 phone calls. Cell phone starts pinging again in this location.

12:00:00 PM: Billie claims a man (Charles) who lives with a neighbor (Travis) sees Hailey in yard talking on phone. Mike Board of WOAI claims his station found a woman who saw Hailey in the yard on the phone, but no time is given.

02:40:00 PM: Shawn exits Big Spring. 38 miles/41 minutes between Colorado City <> Big Spring. 2:40pm + 41 min = 3:21pm

03:00:00 PM: Shawn claims to arrive at Hailey's home in Colorado City. Shawn claims Hailey is there, and tells him she is going to her dad's, then to her friend's.

03:15:00 PM: Shawn claims Hailey leaves home, leaving all personal belongings behind. No one sees her walk anywhere on this entire day. Bloodhounds later track Hailey going toward her father's house, toward her friend's house, and toward a hotel.

03:21:00 PM: Estimated arrival time at Colorado City for Shawn. 2:40pm + 41 min = 3:21pm


SA has added more detail that Hailey in the living room watching TV...when he got home...


http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907

 

[MsFacetious]

BBM. In addition to the possibility of Ativan causing the flat affect, I can speak from my experience that as an introvert (in the true Myers-Briggs sense) it is nearly impossible for me to summon emotion when I am in the middle of a stressful event, as my brain processes things differently.

Introverts make up about 1/4 of the general population, and are often perceived by extroverts as being emotionless, when the reality is that our emotions are running too deeply for us to express. If I were on the spot on national tv as Billie is, trying to make sense of something so huge, my choices would be to under-react or over-react, and since over-reacting would get me nowhere, you would all probably think I was feeling nothing at all.

Extroverts can think while they speak, whereas an introvert needs to process a thought completely before speaking, so sometimes it looks like we are trying to concoct a story, when actually we are mentally reviewing all relevant factors to make sure we aren't mis-speaking.

I have no knowledge of BD's personality type, but I want to put this out there as I know if I were in her situation it's entirely possible that I would come across in the media as strangely as Billie seems to, while being entirely innocent of any wrong-doing and desperate to have my daughter back.

I totally agree, I am the same way.

I do not cry in front of anyone, even my husband. I can count on one hand the number of times he's seen me cry in 8.5 years. The number of times I have cried in front of other people, in public... One time in 10 years, other than that I have teared up like Billie did, but not actually cried.

I go into "productive mode" when a crisis hits. Billie was a nurse and I wouldn't be surprised if she also had a similar mindset.

People say "but when your kid is missing it's different..." And that is of course true.

But when my kid WAS missing I still stopped and said "What is going to help in this situation, I can't get hysterical. I will call family while I am looking, to come help. I will strap her sister into the car so she can't go anywhere. I will take the dog with me, she will find her. I need to first check the water, near the road and near the horses. Then search the cars and their trunks and the rest of the property. If I haven't found her at that point, I need to call 911."

I surprised myself with how calm I managed to stay. I thought I might have a heart attack but anyone who saw me never would have guessed I had a child missing.

I totally fell apart later, after we found her, made sure she was okay, had a talk about why she NEVER left the house, put new locks on the doors and got the kids to bed. Then I went into the bathroom and lost it.

The more I think about it, the more I am not reading into Billie's demeanor. Maybe I am biased because I am just so SICK of hearing from other people about how "dead inside" I am. But I would have to see Billie without her knowing she's on camera, 24 hours a day before I would judge her by her emotions. :twocents:

 

[everyoneneedsavoice]

Okay, I changed it just for you...

(OT: reminds me of 'everyoneneedsavoice'. For the longest time, I thought it 'everyoneneedsadvice'.... )

Heyyyy...LOL! Just kidding....that's too funny...I never knew that!:crazy: