TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #28

[winterrose]

It just hit me,Mark went there tonight and maybe he told CD and BD it would be better if they go on this interview together for Hailey.

 

[cluciano63]

OT, but do we know if, and where, Clint was working?
I haven't seen anything about that, other than seeing that there is a collection for household items for him, as he is not working now, since Hailey vanished.

If he has a job, it could add a possible suspect pool, I suppose. If someone was angry with him, or simply enthralled by his daughter.

 

[carmenU]

OK, I'm going to bed at a decent time tonight.

Everyone please continue to keep Hailey in your prayers, and ask God to keep His hand on Hailey and all those that love her. There are so many people who love and miss her. We need her home where she belongs.

Thanks for being herel

 

[salvarenga]

czgtz

You mentioned you helped BD get online to try to access the phone records. Was that at her house? If so, who's internet connection were you using?

 

[Lanie]

When I watched it I took it as 2 ppl seeing her. Now, reading I am not sure if I have it wrong or the transcript :waitasec:

If it helps, I'm watching it right now, and BD clearly says the grandmother Jean said she saw her.

 

[captdj]

This is really crucial to the case right now imo. Are there really some credible sightings Monday ?

The hairdresser lady swears she saw HD walking through her front yard Monday mid-morning . According to CZ she was seen walking with another kid who is alive and well. So why haven't we heard from this kid and their family? Wouldn't they reach out to the Dunn's and say what they were doing--and where they were going and what HD had to say?

The hairdresser swears it was Monday. HD is known to cut through that yard to go to the Dollar store. There is no video of her there Monday but there is on Sunday. That must make LE question the witness's memory somewhat.

BD said that the hairdresser is certain because she had just finished doing someones hair, and she doesnt do hair on Mondays.
I would like to check with the client list and see if she might have done hair on Monday since it was during Holidays. Her schedule might have been slightly different with NYR's Eve coming up.

Anyway, this still doesn't let SA off the hook. Wasn't it about 5 that he locked the door and ignored loud knocking from DD, who ended up climbing in a window? Then the deer in headlights look? Maybe this was the time he was messing with HD and was just getting things back in order. He could have handed her off to a fellow 'murder mask ' fanatic to hold until he could sneak out after BD went to sleep. If they bought drugs that night he could have given her something to sleep deeply while he went off to a torture party. Sorry, just free form thinking.

Not letting SA off the hook but if we can determine Hailey was alive at 2pm then we need to concentrate of the 3:00 to 3:30 time frame as the possible time SA harmed Hailey... and what he did until the time Hailey was reported as missing Tuesday at Noon.

Still nagging me and don't know why ...but SA says Hailey was watching TV when he came home...

How long does it take for a soft kill and then hide the person until later....5 minutes , 10 minutes probably not that much time is needed...

Was the TV playing when DD came in the window....

 

[AlexisFresca]

I hope the focues on BD eases up, such as the caller tonight on NG if BD was jealous of SA attention to HD... sorry but there was no basis for that and a really stupid question to ask and get on air due to what in the world ever from anyone indicated that. NG needs to screen out the wtf questions... waste of time.

: respectfully snipped for length :

Respectfully, I disagree.

Here we have a mother who's boyfriend threatened to kill not only her but her daughter. About 6 months later she lets this beast move into her house?

Look at the picture of Hailey, Billie and Shawn sitting on the couch, posted on his MS. Seriously look at it. The first thing that stands out to me: the divisiveness between them. Hailey's off to herself. There's no effort from Billie to sit close to Hailey, put her arm around her daughter or anything like you see in a 'family'-type photo - to make her feel part of a group. Instead, Billie is leaning towards her boy-toy. Hailey looks like she's tolerating the moment, at best, to 'get the picture over with' being taken. Billie looks like she's in heaven; she and Shawn look happiest and the only affection in that photo/moment is going on between them. Body language is very telling.

Now look at Billie and Hailey. They don't look like mother and daughter, they look like sisters. Shawn doesn't look much older. He's what, 8 years her junior?

Now, remember something else that Billie said. Hailey didn't like Shawn. We only have Billie's word that Hailey and Shawn had started to get along better recently. I believe the opposite to be true. I don't think Hailey ever liked Shawn, I don't think she ever felt comfortable around him and I really think she resented her mom bringing him into their house. I bet they fought about him all the time.

Adding to that, we have the statement about Hailey telling her grandmother that she had seen Shawn's silhouette standing at her bedroom door at night, staring at her in the dark, and that it creeped her out. She was only 11 when this was happening! So since this was clearly before he moved in, he either stayed at Billie's house overnight a lot, or Billie lied yet again (surprise surprise) about something else - how long Shawn was living there.

Now, your dating a man much younger than you, you have a young daughter and he moves into your home, you and your daughter are under constant tensions, and oh, thats right - your boyfriend is staring at your daughter in her bed while she's sleeping. Yes, I truly believe she was jealous of Hailey. I will go one step further and surmise that she resented her. Here she's known this man for 2 1/2 years, they move in together and then his affections turn towards her daugher? And wasn't anyone else disturbed when Billie herself said that Shawn gave Billie 'special attention'? What the heck? No red flag?

Yes, I believe she also resented Hailey. She had Hailey at 17; Hailey 'stole her youth' and I don't think she ever got over that. I also wouldn't be further surprised to find out that Shawn saw this tension and egged it on as often as he could to use to his advantage. So, imo, the question was not inappropriate at all nor out of line. I would have asked the same myself, along with many others had I been given the opportunity.

 

[dixiegirl]

Well, I can at least clear up one mystery as absolute fact for y'all.....

I am at my own home, and Billie is at hers. I did not go over today because I had to work late, and the media was already there when I pulled into town.

Ummmm, I usually get home around 5:30pm, but tonight it was nearly an hour later, which can be confirmed with cell pings, except for this one area where my phone always cuts out (On I-20 just west of Westbrook). I will go ahead and admit that I was speeding, so the time I stopped pinging will appear shorter than it should. Three of my neighbors witnessed my arrival home, PLUS a police car passed by as I was getting out of my vehicle, so SOMEBODY should be able to verify what time I got home (but you never know).

I changed clothes, went to the bathroom (#2, so it did take more than a minute), hugged my kids and kissed my husband - a peck, not a smooch. Then I got a drink and logged on here, so I hope to God that one of you will be able to back me up that I have remained logged on and not left my house.

I did call Billie around 8:30, and talked for about 25 minutes.... I will glady hand over my phone for someone to verify - I would do it myself, but it is new (I bought it online in November), and I don't know how to look at the call times. I have not had time because I work a lot, not because I am involved in anything nefarious. I can absolutely prove this because I am required to keep a log of both my miles and my time, down to the minute - it is all done by computer, and once I log it I cannot change it in anyway.

I am very willing to submit to a polygraph, chinese water torture, or any other method deemed necessary to determine that I have not, in fact, been to Billie's house today.

Sorry..... I just couldnt help myself.

Polygraph question number 1. Was you speeding due to the fact that you needed to get home to use the bathroom.....just yes or no please.:giggle:

 

[Mustang Sally]

Wait... a neighbor (male) reportedly saw HD in her yard and then HE disappears? I'm assuming someone has checked into this guy?

I am watching the rerun of Nancy Grace.

Last week on Nancy Grace Billie said that this dude's name was Charles...TONIGHT she said that his name was Dennis.


What's up with that???

DEAR GOD...PLEASE BRING HAILEY HOME....

 

[salvarenga]

From NG Transcript 1/17 - Advice

MARC KLAAS, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, certainly being so close to the child, you as parents -- and the numbers point to you, you have to clear yourself and you have to do whatever is necessary in order to get yourself cleared. And that usually involves taking a polygraph so that the police can say, OK, we`re satisfied, this has nothing to do with you, it`s time to move forward.

 

[AlexisFresca]

OT, but do we know if, and where, Clint was working?
I haven't seen anything about that, other than seeing that there is a collection for household items for him, as he is not working now, since Hailey vanished.

If he has a job, it could add a possible suspect pool, I suppose. If someone was angry with him, or simply enthralled by his daughter.

We already know who that person was: Shawn Adkins.

 

[winterrose]

czgtz

You mentioned you helped BD get online to try to access the phone records. Was that at her house? If so, who's internet connection were you using?

So I guess she's been given a computer.I guess it's easier to keep in touch with people.

 

[tfrohning]

Wait... a neighbor (male) reportedly saw HD in her yard and then HE disappears? I'm assuming someone has checked into this guy?

It doesn't sound like it. This little info got me having flashbacks of Somer Thompson and Jessica Lunsford case. The neighborhood needs to check again. I get the feeling that Hailey still close to that area.

 

[tehcloser]

So I guess she's been given a computer.I guess it's easier to keep in touch with people.

Did she get an net connection too?

 

[s_finch]

Not letting SA off the hook but if we can determine Hailey was alive at 2pm then we need to concentrate of the 3:00 to 3:30 time frame as the possible time SA harmed Hailey... and what he did until the time Hailey was reported as missing Tuesday at Noon.

Still nagging me and don't know why ...but SA says Hailey was watching TV when he came home...

How long does it take for a soft kill and then hide the person until later....5 minutes , 10 minutes probably not that much time is needed...

Was the TV playing when DD came in the window....

If you knew what you were doing, with a 25 yo man and a 13 yo girl, 5 minutes easy. IMHO

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

We can microchip our dogs , horses, etc. and anything else we want returned to us when it is lost or stolen. Would microchipping our children be out of the question? Not to me . Just saying !:twocents:

This has been stated before and while I do wish there was a way to protect our children. I am afraid if we were to microchip them a perp would injure/torture a child by removing an arm, leg whatever to remove the microchip so they would go undetected. Gruesome to say the least. JMO.

 

[5CentsWorth]

OT, but do we know if, and where, Clint was working?
I haven't seen anything about that, other than seeing that there is a collection for household items for him, as he is not working now, since Hailey vanished.

If he has a job, it could add a possible suspect pool, I suppose. If someone was angry with him, or simply enthralled by his daughter.

I've wondered about this as well....

 

[Lanie]

s&bbm

IF Jillian (granddaughter I assume) actually spoke to her that carries far more weight then anyone just seeing her.

IF this is true it def has to cement the timeline.

So, is it true OR not! :banghead:

I think Jillian works for NG, but that's just my opinion.

ETA: IMO, Jillian spoke to Jean, not Hailey. (rewound and watched this part again.)

 

[tfrohning]

I'm watching the NG repeat right now & I still believe that's a FEMALE vs the COUSIN popping up behind the couch.

ETA!! Is that a FEMALE mask? It has what looks like (long & braided) hair flowing from the side of it.

I do too....it sure looks like a female:waitasec:

 

[MsFacetious]

Okay... seriously. Can we not just have two segments of Nancy?

A "talk to the family segment."

And then a "cut the family so they can't hear us talking about decomposing flesh, dismemberment, skeletons and how all of this may or may not apply to their child."

Is there not a way to just have that part of the show be the last ten minutes?

It's been a while since I have heard a doctor be that graphic with the parents on the air listening.