TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #28

[winterrose]

Did she get an net connection too?

I'm assuming there's a computer at her house now.Good timing,SA's leaving ms postings.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Not letting SA off the hook but if we can determine Hailey was alive at 2pm then we need to concentrate of the 3:00 to 3:30 time frame as the possible time SA harmed Hailey... and what he did until the time Hailey was reported as missing Tuesday at Noon.

Still nagging me and don't know why ...but SA says Hailey was watching TV when he came home...

How long does it take for a soft kill and then hide the person until later....5 minutes , 10 minutes probably not that much time is needed...

Was the TV playing when DD came in the window....

Do we have any reason to believe anything that SA says? I believe that statement to be a lie. He didn't work that day. Why would he wait all day to kill her? His phone stopped pinging in Colorado City at 6:59 a.m. till 9-fiftiesh-something a.m., when his pinging was coming from close to where his grandmother lives.

 

[winterrose]

CD looks like it's everything he can do to sit there and he's holding it all in.I can't wait till he can talk.

 

[RavenTrue]

I'm watching the NG repeat right now & I still believe that's a FEMALE vs the COUSIN popping up behind the couch.

ETA!! Is that a FEMALE mask? It has what looks like (long & braided) hair flowing from the side of it.

Am watching same, and you took the words right out of my mouth!
They keep showing it over and over. Hope LE enlarges for jewelry or anything that can ID that smaller person. BD clearly stated in this program that she knew nothing of the videos.

 

[amysmom]

I think Jillian works for NG, but that's just my opinion.

ETA: IMO, Jillian spoke to Jean, not Hailey. (rewound and watched this part again.)

TY! That makes way more sense & if BD made more sense when she's attempting to explain things all of these misunderstandings wouldn't happen.

 

[cluciano63]

It doesn't sound like it. This little info got me having flashbacks of Somer Thompson and Jessica Lunsford case. The neighborhood needs to check again. I get the feeling that Hailey still close to that area.

This is why I asked about whether or not Clint worked, possibly with a group of men who came around to visit (smoek weed)...anyone could have seen Hailey, and it is possible, at least, that some other pervert took her, besides SA. Granted, he is the most likely, he had opportunity, surely had means, and who knows about motive, that is all in the twisted brain of the person who did it. And he apparently has lies to the police going against him. But I still would like to know about any other possibilities, and if Clint knows of anyone creepy, he probably isn't even thinking about them now, as LE has presented the "perfect" suspect already.

 

[tehcloser]

No, she said she had seen some on line.....not that she didn't know about them, she just didn't say WHEN she saw them on-line. I'm figuring out her word games.

BILLIE DUNN: No. I knew that he had the mask, that he bought and traded masks. I didn`t watch the videos. I think that`s before we got together. I don`t know. And I did see some on line, and it`s not good.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html

 

[MsFacetious]

Yes, I believe she also resented Hailey. She had Hailey at 17; Hailey 'stole her youth' and I don't think she ever got over that. I also wouldn't be further surprised to find out that Shawn saw this tension and egged it on as often as he could to use to his advantage. So, imo, the question was not appropriate at all nor out of line. I would have asked the same myself, along with many others had I been given the opportunity.

sbm

Billie is 33 years old.

Hailey is 13 years old.

Billie was not 17 when she had her. More like 20.

She was likely 17 when her 16 year old SON was born. HE would be the one who "stole her youth" if either child was resented for doing so.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

From NG Transcript 1/17 - Advice

MARC KLAAS, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, certainly being so close to the child, you as parents -- and the numbers point to you, you have to clear yourself and you have to do whatever is necessary in order to get yourself cleared. And that usually involves taking a polygraph so that the police can say, OK, we`re satisfied, this has nothing to do with you, it`s time to move forward.

I sure hope this doesn't turn around and bite MK right in the butt. He's going there (probably there now) and you all know he is going to make (or try to anyway) BD take another poly. Either she is going to fail it or she is going to refuse and that is going to frustrate MK to no end.

The next few days will be interesting.

 

[tfrohning]

I am watching the rerun of Nancy Grace.

Last week on Nancy Grace Billie said that this dude's name was Charles...TONIGHT she said that his name was Dennis.


What's up with that???

DEAR GOD...PLEASE BRING HAILEY HOME....

Good I thought that too....

 

[tehcloser]

B. DUNN: No. I would think about taking one with somebody else, with the FBI.

GRACE: That is the Feds.

B. DUNN: But that`s something I`d have to think long and hard about.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Am watching same, and you took the words right out of my mouth!
They keep showing it over and over. Hope LE enlarges for jewelry or anything that can ID that smaller person. BD clearly stated in this program that she knew nothing of the videos.

I paid real close attention to it tonight. That was one I didn't get to see before they disappeared. I can tell you one thing. That mask is one I didn't see in any of the other videos. We all know SA's and the cuz's masks - but that one is different.

hhhmmmmm..........................................wonder if BD had her own mask?

 

[cluciano63]

I sure hope this doesn't turn around and bite MK right in the butt. He's going there (probably there now) and you all know he is going to make (or try to anyway) BD take another poly. Either she is going to fail it or she is going to refuse and that is going to frustrate MK to no end.

The next few days will be interesting.

I'm not even sure he will push it...he seems to be seething at LE in this case and all about Billie. He may decide to understand her reluctance not to take another one, even if given by the FBI. I would be surprised if they have not asked her to take it again, we know of at least one case where one was taken 8 times. I think the FBI holds LD tests in high regard.

 

[belimom]

...
It's been a while since I have heard a doctor be that graphic with the parents on the air listening.

I didn't see the show, but do you think maybe it was done purposefully to watch for a reaction?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I'm not even sure he will push it...he seems to be seething at LE in this case and all about Billie. He may decide to understand her reluctance not to take another one, even if given by the FBI. I would be surprised if they have not asked her to take it again, we know of at least one case where one was taken 8 times. I think the FBI holds LD tests in high regard.

Oh I think MK will push for her to take one. Like he said - she needs to clear herself and push LE to do it. He did in his case. He knows how important that is. Regardless of how ticked off he is at LE - he passed one. And he will make sure it is the FBI administering it with a well respected polygrapher.

IMHO - she won't pass. And then what will MK do?

 

[salvarenga]

B. DUNN: No. I would think about taking one with somebody else, with the FBI.

GRACE: That is the Feds.

B. DUNN: But that`s something I`d have to think long and hard about.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html

Hmmm....your daughter's missing and you need to think long and hard about taking another polygraph to help clear yourself so LE can move forward with finding her.....somebody needs to have a serious come to Jesus meeting with BD.

 

[AlexisFresca]

No, she said she had seen some on line.....not that she didn't know about them, she just didn't say WHEN she saw them on-line. I'm figuring out her word games.

BILLIE DUNN: No. I knew that he had the mask, that he bought and traded masks. I didn`t watch the videos. I think that`s before we got together. I don`t know. And I did see some on line, and it`s not good.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/17/ng.01.html

She's lying; she was in one of the videos - smack center with SA and his friends, big smile on her face, drinking. I couldn't stomach to watch the whole thing.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

i didn't see the show, but do you think maybe it was done purposefully to watch for a reaction?

yes!!!!

 

[amysmom]

Am watching same, and you took the words right out of my mouth!
They keep showing it over and over. Hope LE enlarges for jewelry or anything that can ID that smaller person. BD clearly stated in this program that she knew nothing of the videos.

Yes she did! I don't believe that all cos what are the odds she never looked over his entire site(s) including the video section? Not very good!

What disturbs me way more then her lying about it is her 'possibly' taking part in these FREAKY videos..Altho, I will say this particular one looks like fooling around then any of the others..OTH! It was very CREEPY the way the knife was being fondled by ??? behind the mask.

I wonder WHO was taking this video & all the others? There is def a 3rd person in the mix since there's so many with SA & his cousin in them.

eta..A 'therapist' was interviewed last week on one of the local media sites & his impression is ALL of this appears to be just "fooling around" to him..Nothing to get all riled up about..Well, my impression is this a 'therapist' I hope nobody seeks out for help!

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Okay... seriously. Can we not just have two segments of Nancy?

A "talk to the family segment."

And then a "cut the family so they can't hear us talking about decomposing flesh, dismemberment, skeletons and how all of this may or may not apply to their child."

Is there not a way to just have that part of the show be the last ten minutes?

It's been a while since I have heard a doctor be that graphic with the parents on the air listening.

Maybe that was a plan of some sort.....I dunno.....