TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #40

[peeples]

Would you let your boyfriend move in with you though just months after he had made threats on your life? Your partner may be honourable but in my opinion someone who threatens there partners life isnt.

This deserves a major thank you!!!!!! Anyone who smokes pot or any other drug while they have minor children to take care of is just rolling the dice on their children's future. Anyone who moves a person in who threatens their lives and MAYBE those of their children and other family members, needs their head examined... and should anything happen, the parent who did the drugs, moved the less than good person in, is just as guilty.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Why did SA even go back to Haileys house at 3 something? Who was he trying to fool by showing up at the usually time of getting off work? BD was at work so how would she know what time he got home. DD was gone and as far as SA would have known Hailey might not even had been there. Was this a showing for the neighbors to see him there?

 

[concernedmother]

Aired January 18, 2011 - 20:00:00 ET

GRACE: Out to Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother. Billie, thank you for being with us tonight. Did he tell you where he was...

BILLIE DUNN: Thank you.

GRACE: ... in between 7:00 and 9:00 AM?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I haven`t had a chance to ask him. No.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html


Here we are Jan 18th and she still hasnt asked Shawn about that day her daughter went missing so she says.

 

[katydid23]

From the quote below, it does seem like we have different versions of the truth here, so someone is wrong, correct? BD, HD, or MB/mom.

OR, as another member mentioned above, MAYBE HD used MB as a cover story. Maybe she used to say she was sleeping over there when she was actually somewhere else. HHMMMMMMM...........

 

[Pondering Mind]

And why is that, you reckon? IMO, it's because NG spends most of the show asking Billie about those things, and not asking much in regards to Hailey.

But Nancy has given Billie chances to say whatever she wants..and what does she say? Well, she tells Hailey to call 911 because she doesn't have her phone...this struck me as odd for some reason beyond the obvious..after BD said for Hailey to call 911 and NG said..that's it?..that's your message..she said yeah, she knows that number..:floorlaugh:..it's not funny, but what??? Hailey is 13 and her mom says yeah, she knows the # to 911..wow..

TxLady, NG can be a pain..and intimidating I'm sure, but imo..IF Billie (or anyone on her show) wanted to say something bad enough..she would find a way...and she does..it's just usually about SA. I just don't see how NG could talk to BD regarding Hailey's disappearance without his name coming up..he's the main suspect and has been named so by LE. Billie focuses on defending Shawn instead of providing pertinent information. As teh said earlier..in many ways she reminds me of Cindy Anthony..Billie seems to think she knows where LE should be focusing better than LE does..and what info is important and what's not..Someone needs to sit her down (hopefully MK will) and let her know that she has no idea what LE may know and that they know how to run this investigation..If she wants to help, she could start by telling the truth....

 

[TxLady2]

I throwing the GF saying that out the window since it came from BD. ppppfffftttttt.

Uh.... no.... it came from Billie's friend. Surely you're not suggesting that the friend would lie about that.

 

[debirlfan]

I am thinking that whatever text (assuming it was a text..it could have just been something on the phone log) SA erased before LE had a chance to look the 2nd time was a text between he and Billie..that is complete speculation on my part and I have nothing to base it on other than a feeling....SA obviously knew that whatever it was was incriminating imo...wonder what he was worried about them seeing..and if it was something he didn't want them to see..wth did he wait until then to erase it?

Hmm. My guess would be drug contact. Probably not healthy to give your dealer's # to the cops.

 

[BeanE]

I just got done doing an update and refinement on the timeline. I spent most of the day with the NG transcripts (lol), looking for some specific pieces of info. Boy was that ever fun.

But... having spent all that time and reviewed all the transcripts, as well as going and looking at articles and videos, I finally got something straight in my head. Took me long enough lol.

It's about the polygraphs. And this is all according to Billie.

- Friday, Dec 31 - Shawn and Billie go to take polys, but can't because they both took Ativan the night before.

- Monday, Jan 3 - Shawn and Billie go to take polys, but *again* can't because they both *again* took Ativan the night before.

- Wednesday, Jan 5 - Shawn and Billie take polys. Billie says for this one she took pain meds and antiobiotics for her tooth. Both Billie and Shawn fail their polys.


Not a biggie, but I wanted to post because I got all excited when I figured out wth Billie was saying :floorlaugh:

 

[concernedmother]

GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Back to the question the caller presented earlier. Between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.. Why? Why? Let`s see that ping record again, Liz. The map. Why would he go into work, Billie, take a look at his boss, 6:00 a.m., take a sip of soda and walk out? Then tell you he got fired or quit or some such story as that when the boss said that`s not what happened at all. He just turned around and walked out. Then his pings placed him back around your home between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. Then between 7:00 and 9:00, nothing. Then the pings put him at his mother`s house around 9:00 up until 2:40 p.m.

What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?

DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.

GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?

DUNN: No.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring.

GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him.



This is still from Jan 18th and SHE never asked him. She had plenty of time before he moved out to ask him these questions.

 

[For The Kids]

Uh.... no.... it came from Billie's friend. Surely you're not suggesting that the friend would lie about that.

I believe CZ totally The problem is she only knows what she is told by Billie and therein lies the problem when Billie doesnt appear to be the most truthful person out

 

[trigger]

Some want to know if BA had asked SA where he was Tuesday. Heres what I found on NG transcripts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is -- I know that the cell phone pings show that Shawn was pinging in Colorado City until almost 7:00 AM, and then in Big Springs from about 9:00-something after. Where was he between 7:00 and 9:00, is my question? Does anyone know?

GRACE: Out to Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother. Billie, thank you for being with us tonight. Did he tell you where he was... GRACE: ... in between 7:00 and 9:00 AM?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I haven`t had a chance to ask him. No. :furious:

(remember this was the show when NG finally said to her..WHY, wHY HAVN'T YOU ASKD HIM..And BD said he lawyered up and NG said wow that was like pulling a tooth. LOL)

1/18/21

 

[Pondering Mind]

Hmm. My guess would be drug contact. Probably not healthy to give your dealer's # to the cops.

If he was innocent in Hailey's disappearance I don't think LE would care about that to be honest. They most likely wouldn't know it was a drug contact unless he told them anyway...and he already admitted to buying drugs..

Although you have a point! This msg or whatever it was could be HOW LE got them to admit the drug purchase. It quite possibly could have been a text to his dealer and if they had lied about what they did that night (which we know that they did at first) the text could have been the confirmation LE used to get them to make that admission..good point..and Gee Thanks, something else to ponder..:crazy:..j/k!

 

[Soulmagent]

This deserves a major thank you!!!!!! Anyone who smokes pot or any other drug while they have minor children to take care of is just rolling the dice on their children's future. Anyone who moves a person in who threatens their lives and MAYBE those of their children and other family members, needs their head examined... and should anything happen, the parent who did the drugs, moved the less than good person in, is just as guilty.

I am hoping they make weed legal to remove some of the Unnecessary danger away from children who's parents do smoke weed. IMO.

 

[concernedmother]

Some want to know if BA had asked SA where he was Tuesday. Heres what I found on NG transcripts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is -- I know that the cell phone pings show that Shawn was pinging in Colorado City until almost 7:00 AM, and then in Big Springs from about 9:00-something after. Where was he between 7:00 and 9:00, is my question? Does anyone know?

GRACE: Out to Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother. Billie, thank you for being with us tonight. Did he tell you where he was... GRACE: ... in between 7:00 and 9:00 AM?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I haven`t had a chance to ask him. No. :furious:

(member this was the show when NG finally said to her..WHY, wHY HAVN'T YOU ASKD HIM..And BA said he lawyered up and NG said wow that was like pulling a tooth. LOL)

You would think as soon as she found out he lied to her about being at work a red flag would have went up and she would have started asking questions. I bet he faked going to work on the 28th because she didnt know he wasnt working.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Some want to know if BA had asked SA where he was Tuesday. Heres what I found on NG transcripts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is -- I know that the cell phone pings show that Shawn was pinging in Colorado City until almost 7:00 AM, and then in Big Springs from about 9:00-something after. Where was he between 7:00 and 9:00, is my question? Does anyone know?

GRACE: Out to Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother. Billie, thank you for being with us tonight. Did he tell you where he was... GRACE: ... in between 7:00 and 9:00 AM?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I haven`t had a chance to ask him. No. :furious:

(member this was the show when NG finally said to her..WHY, wHY HAVN'T YOU ASKD HIM..And BA said he lawyered up and NG said wow that was like pulling a tooth. LOL)

bbm~

We all have our priorities right? ..:furious:..doesn't sound like finding Hailey is #1 on BD's list of things to ask SA...

 

[strach304]

Enough what? Her lover has been named a suspect. They both failed a poly. If BD wants to be left alone....well....that's her call. Clint is looking for Hailey. Maybe Billie should fade into the background....

Gary Ridgeway passed three...so? She's trying to find her child!

 

[lillys]

I'm not sure how much relevance I'd put on what she was wearing. Girls change - .

respectfully snipped.
In another case what she was wearing may not be important. In THIS case, Hailey's case, it is.

The lone suspect in the case is the last person who 'saw her'.....her mother's bf, who told LE what Hailey had on.

I think that's very important.
imoo

 

[katydid23]

Also we do not know that there was no contact between Hailey and her friends that day. There was a text message sent arround 2. confirmed by LE but we have not been told any other clues Billie's phone may or may not hold.

LE was misleading about this text message or shady.

How were they shady about the text message? I don't follow.

I think that LE have been implying that there was no other communication or contact other than that 2 pm text. Haven't they said that Sunday evening was the last verified sighting other than a 2pm unanswered text to MB?
That implies there were no other calls or texts made by her.

If she had called another friend that day wouldn't we have heard?

I could be wrong. But I think that the only communication from that cell was the 2 pm text.


As for the uncles behind MB's home, that should really be checked out. I hope it has been already. Lord knows it needs to be.

 

[TxLady2]

Seems to me that IF she wanted to make sure the focus was on Hailey, she would recount the hours between Sunday and Tuesday regarding her and SA's every move..in detail without all her hemming and hawing..answer everything she knew about Shawn's actions honestly ..and after doing that..just say I'm not talking about him anymore...LE is aware of everything I know..and I'm here to discuss Hailey..The End..She won't do that though..

Granted she had made some similar remarks..but she won't be forthcoming (not even with LE) and worries more about what is being said about she and Shawn (and the fate of their relationship) than she is about Hailey...for some reason she can't help herself it seems and THAT is one thing that makes me look a whole lot closer at her!

If she was at work Monday and Tuesday, and not with him, how is she going to give them answers about HIS activities those days?
As far as Sunday... Hailey was alive Sun. night when her brother saw her playing x-box at 9 p.m. In fact, Billie says she thought he left later than that, but whatever... the brother saw her, alive and well. Billie saw her watching t.v. in her bedroom around 10:30.

 

[katydid23]

respectfully snipped.
In another case what she was wearing may not be important. In THIS case, Hailey's case, it is.

The lone suspect in the case is the last person who 'saw her'.....her mother's bf, who told LE what Hailey had on.

I think that's very important.
imoo

I think that you are totally correct. That quote is actually from the person I was replying to, but the thread was closed so I had to cut and paste. Sorry for the confusion.