TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #40

[Pondering Mind]

I am hoping they make weed legal to remove some of the unnessary danger away from children who's parents do smoke weed. IMO.

Thank you! I know many disagree and that's fine I understand..but while I never smoked pot around my children, I did smoke it. They were never aware of it..not because I thought I was doing anything wrong (yes I know it's illegal) because I rarely drink and never did that if front of them either. I have to say that while I have had a long and sometimes very rocky road in my life, I was and am a d@mn good mama..EVEN when I smoked pot..probably better in many ways to be quite honest..<MOO and I don't except anyone to agree. :crazy:..

 

[noneareworthy]

Does someone have a link to what LE said about the 2PM text message? The only thing I've seen says something like there was a message sent...but it didn't say to whom. Also, and again, LE has that message and to whom it was sent and from where it pinged by this point.

 

[SailorMoon]

I think that the description of what she was last seen wearing is exactly that - what SA last saw her in. It's just the when and where we don't know.

 

[Soulmagent]

GRACE: I want to go back to Billie Dunn. Back to the question the caller presented earlier. Between 7:00 and 9:00 a.m.. Why? Why? Let`s see that ping record again, Liz. The map. Why would he go into work, Billie, take a look at his boss, 6:00 a.m., take a sip of soda and walk out? Then tell you he got fired or quit or some such story as that when the boss said that`s not what happened at all. He just turned around and walked out. Then his pings placed him back around your home between 6:30 and 7:00 a.m. Then between 7:00 and 9:00, nothing. Then the pings put him at his mother`s house around 9:00 up until 2:40 p.m.

What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?

DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.

GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?

DUNN: No.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring.

GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him.



This is still from Jan 18th and SHE never asked him. She had plenty of time before he moved out to ask him these questions.

BBM
So what day did the affidavits come out? and when did SA leave the house?

 

[noneareworthy]

If she was at work Monday and Tuesday, and not with him, how is she going to give them answers about HIS activities those days?
As far as Sunday... Hailey was alive Sun. night when her brother saw her playing x-box at 9 p.m. In fact, Billie says she thought he left later than that, but whatever... the brother saw her, alive and well. Billie saw her watching t.v. in her bedroom around 10:30.

I thought she played XBOX until 12:30 am. Can you play XBOX AND watch tv at the same time?

 

[katydid23]

I just got done doing an update and refinement on the timeline. I spent most of the day with the NG transcripts (lol), looking for some specific pieces of info. Boy was that ever fun.

But... having spent all that time and reviewed all the transcripts, as well as going and looking at articles and videos, I finally got something straight in my head. Took me long enough lol.

It's about the polygraphs. And this is all according to Billie.

- Friday, Dec 31 - Shawn and Billie go to take polys, but can't because they both took Ativan the night before.

- Monday, Jan 3 - Shawn and Billie go to take polys, but *again* can't because they both *again* took Ativan the night before.

- Wednesday, Jan 5 - Shawn and Billie take polys. Billie says for this one she took pain meds and antiobiotics for her tooth. Both Billie and Shawn fail their polys.


Not a biggie, but I wanted to post because I got all excited when I figured out wth Billie was saying :floorlaugh:

THANK YOU for weeding through all of those docs. Must have given you a migraine.

But I was thinking about this before and couldn't understand how she wouldn't just knock off the pills for one full day to try and pass the test. Hmmmm

 

[lillys]

I think that you are totally correct. That quote is actually from the person I was replying to, but the thread was closed so I had to cut and paste. Sorry for the confusion.

Sorry hon.
(Please don't take my post as being rude towards you. )

 

[belimom]

He was in the house for a week and a 1/2 before he left. During that time, BD found out he walked out of his job, that he wasn't in Big Springs during the times he says he was the day of Hailey's disappearance, etc. He also refused 2 of his polys and failed the third.

I think I'd be asking a whole bunch of questions.

bbm

I believe that Billie said on NG that the first time she heard that he had gone back to the house and not straight to his mom's was when the affidavits were released. She said that she didn't get a chance to ask him or something like that, because that would have been after he had failed the poly/moved out. If they were texting/talking, she should have asked.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I believe CZ totally The problem is she only knows what she is told by Billie and therein lies the problem when Billie doesnt appear to be the most truthful person out

Exactly..and unless and until I were to find out differently, anytime I question something that CZ said, I am NOT questioning her, I'm questioning what Billie told her..I think most of us even told her that and she understood...

 

[lillys]

I think that the description of what she was last seen wearing is exactly that - what SA last saw her in. It's just the when and where we don't know.

Me too!

 

[belimom]

I thought she played XBOX until 12:30 am. Can you play XBOX AND watch tv at the same time?

DD estimated that she would have played until about 12:00, based on the game she was playing and her skill level - and the time that he left around 9:00. I don't think LE has ever revealed exactly how long she played...? I'm sure they know by now, though.

ETA: Just posting this as a reason for why nonareworthy may have thought that she played until 12:30. But we don't know how long she played...

 

[Pondering Mind]

I think that the description of what she was last seen wearing is exactly that - what SA last saw her in. It's just the when and where we don't know.

and since there is still that possibility that she was gone before the sun rose on Monday, it's possible that she was in pajamas for all we know. BD wouldn't even know differently since she didn't see her. I wonder if she took SA's word for it or tried to discern for herself what was missing?

 

[strach304]

Why did SA even go back to Haileys house at 3 something? Who was he trying to fool by showing up at the usually time of getting off work? BD was at work so how would she know what time he got home. DD was gone and as far as SA would have known Hailey might not even had been there. Was this a showing for the neighbors to see him there?

Good point. He didn't tell BD he quit his job either so I'm assuming he went on with the charade for several days.

 

[For The Kids]

I thought she played XBOX until 12:30 am. Can you play XBOX AND watch tv at the same time?

It would depend on how m any screens are in the room really My husband plays wow and watches tv programmes at the same time no problems.

 

[BeanE]

Does someone have a link to what LE said about the 2PM text message? The only thing I've seen says something like there was a message sent...but it didn't say to whom. Also, and again, LE has that message and to whom it was sent and from where it pinged by this point.

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=332277

 

[noneareworthy]

DD estimated that she would have played until about 12:00, based on the game she was playing and her skill level - and the time that he left around 9:00. I don't think LE has ever revealed exactly how long she played...? I'm sure they know by now, though.

...except BD says she was watching TV in her bedroom at 10:30.

 

[katydid23]

Exactly..and unless and until I were to find out differently, anytime I question something that CZ said, I am NOT questioning her, I'm questioning what Billie told her..I think most of us even told her that and she understood...

Absolutely. I have the utmost respect for CZ and for what she tried to do for Hailey and for her friend. I feel badly that she had to deal with those 911 tapes like she did. She had told us if she ever found out that SA did in fact threaten Haileys life she would have to think twice about Billie.
I think that is one reason why Billie fights so hard with NG over that statement. She says He never threatened Hailey, he threatened to kill me.
Like that is supposed to make it okay.

 

[concernedmother]

BBM
So what day did the affidavits come out? and when did SA leave the house?

IDN but they were texting so she had opportunitys to ask that question.

 

[BeanE]

BBM
So what day did the affidavits come out? and when did SA leave the house?

Shawn left Jan 5. Affidavits were dated Jan 6, but weren't publicly released until Jan 11.

 

[debirlfan]

If he was innocent in Hailey's disappearance I don't think LE would care about that to be honest. They most likely wouldn't know it was a drug contact unless he told them anyway...and he already admitted to buying drugs..

Although you have a point! This msg or whatever it was could be HOW LE got them to admit the drug purchase. It quite possibly could have been a text to his dealer and if they had lied about what they did that night (which we know that they did at first) the text could have been the confirmation LE used to get them to make that admission..good point..and Gee Thanks, something else to ponder..:crazy:..j/k!

Well, apparently LE is interested enough in drugs that CD is already in some degree of trouble about pot. And maybe it was more than buying - if things went further than that, it could explain where he went after he took off from work. Might also explain the questions regarding sulfuric acid (has there ever been any more info on that?) - and if BD knew what he was really up to and that it didn't involve Hailey, then her defense of him would make sense.

If it's accurate that Hailey hadn't stayed at MD's house before - but she told her mother that she had - then somebody's got to find out where she really was.