TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #40

[Pondering Mind]

Wouldn't that be GREAT! Now the entire family can sit around sucking beer, eating pizza & smoking a joint while they watch Charlotte's Web with the little ones.

Yeah sure, that's how it goes....

 

[Lanie]

Some want to know if BA had asked SA where he was Tuesday. Heres what I found on NG transcripts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is -- I know that the cell phone pings show that Shawn was pinging in Colorado City until almost 7:00 AM, and then in Big Springs from about 9:00-something after. Where was he between 7:00 and 9:00, is my question? Does anyone know?

GRACE: Out to Billie Dunn. This is Hailey`s mother. Billie, thank you for being with us tonight. Did he tell you where he was... GRACE: ... in between 7:00 and 9:00 AM?

BILLIE DUNN: No, I haven`t had a chance to ask him. No. :furious:

(remember this was the show when NG finally said to her..WHY, wHY HAVN'T YOU ASKD HIM..And BD said he lawyered up and NG said wow that was like pulling a tooth. LOL)

1/18/21

WTH does Shawn lawyering up have to do with Billie asking him questions?

ETA: The time frame of 7-9am is from Monday, not Tuesday, btw.

 

[NSS]

bbm

I believe that Billie said on NG that the first time she heard that he had gone back to the house and not straight to his mom's was when the affidavits were released. She said that she didn't get a chance to ask him or something like that, because that would have been after he had failed the poly/moved out. If they were texting/talking, she should have asked.

Billies response to NG should have gone something like this.......<insert events/times> is what he (SA) told me he was doing at that time, and I didn't find out until later that it wasn't true.

I've sent 7 millions texts/emails/MS messages asking him WTF, but he hasn't responded.


The KEY to a missing person investigation is the last person to see/speak with the missing. Clues are also found in the hours before and after.

Since we have nothing except she left the house at 3pm and didn't make it across the street to dads. The ONLY option if Shawn is not involved is, that someone drove up and silently stole the child, right outside his home.

No evidence of a strange car, loiterer, scuffle, childs screams, etc has been reported.

 

[concernedmother]

Well there's this post from Billie's friend:

01-03-2011, 05:32 PM
czgtz

About the phone records - I posted earlier that LE told Billie that they did not find any calls from Hailey on her friends phone.

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That could be where SA screwed up too. Maybe MB didnt have texting on her phone and Hailey would have known that but SA wouldnt if he texted her. I know I have to pay extra a month to have text package and photos on my phone.

 

[lillys]

Wouldn't that be GREAT! Now the entire family can sit around sucking beer, eating pizza & smoking a joint while they watch Charlotte's Web with the little ones.

bwaaaaaa :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Oh Paulette, that's hilarious.

 

[katiemadonna]

WTH does Shawn lawyering up have to do with Billie asking him questions?

ETA: The time frame of 7-9am is from Monday, not Tuesday, btw.

she said that SA's attorney told him not to speak to her. she said that on the NG show

 

[Pondering Mind]

That's when Billie says she found out.

That's a big part of our problem...we can't count on anything she says..I feel sure LE has had to disregard as fact everything she has told them. I can't imagine how frustrating that has been for them..

 

[GourmetSoy]

WTH does Shawn lawyering up have to do with Billie asking him questions?

ETA: The time frame of 7-9am is from Monday, not Tuesday, btw.

Right, Billie isn't a cop. If SD is supposed to be innocent then there isn't anything he should hide from BD...who is his girlfriend and the mother of a missing girl! Facts are facts and the truth doesn't change!

 

[trigger]

Well, apparently LE is interested enough in drugs that CD is already in some degree of trouble about pot. And maybe it was more than buying - if things went further than that, it could explain where he went after he took off from work. Might also explain the questions regarding sulfuric acid (has there ever been any more info on that?) - and if BD knew what he was really up to and that it didn't involve Hailey, then her defense of him would make sense.

If it's accurate that Hailey hadn't stayed at MD's house before - but she told her mother that she had - then somebody's got to find out where she really was.

Right, where was she when she would leave a note or tell her dad or SA that she was sleeping over friends houses. Maybe LE knows but IMO BD never knew.

 

[CONNIEHU]

When looking at BeanE's Most Excellent Timeline: I think that what ever happened to Hailey happened between 6:30-9:00 on 12/27 and was covered up between that time as well.

5:30am Shawn leaves for work
6:00am Billie "thinks" she saw Hailey in her bed/bedroom
6:10 Shawn leaves place of employment
6:20 Billie leave home for work
6:30 ***Shawns phone pings that he is in CC at home***
7-9am Shawns phone does not ping nothing nada
9:00am Shawns phone again starts to ping at his MOMs house in Big Spring

3:00pm Shawn back @ Haileys house in CC
3:15pm Hailey (according to Shawn) leaves home going to MB/Dads house?

BD had not seen Hailey since 900pm the night of 12/26 and didnt realize she was missing til Noon on 12/28 when DD was to text MB.

I just keep coming back to the time of 6:30am-9:00am on 12/27 as to when she may have met her demise. :MOO:

 

[RavenTrue]

I thought she played XBOX until 12:30 am. Can you play XBOX AND watch tv at the same time?

An XBox is a video game player. You need a TV to do this. The Xbox does not come with its own screen. Is that what you mean?

 

[concernedmother]

That's a big part of our problem...we can't count on anything she says..I feel sure LE has had to disregard as fact everything she has told them. I can't imagine how frustrating that has been for them..

There in lies the problem. She is not credible. Look how she denied he had ever threatened her and wham here the 911 calls are released.

 

[CONNIEHU]

she said that SA's attorney told him not to speak to her. she said that on the NG show

But then dosent she say something to the effect that he keeps texting her telling her how much he loves her and the "family"?

 

[PaulR]

An XBox is a video game player. You need a TV to do this. The Xbox does not come with its own screen. Is that what you mean?

You can also watch TV shows from Netflix and Hulu on your Xbox.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

BD knows. Has known. And will continue to know. But, will she tell what she knows is the real question.

Think about this for a minute.

You (or a close friend or family member) has a child go missing. You meet with LE and at some point - hours from the intial report. When LE has talked to everyone and pretty much tells you to go home and that they will be in touch and they will take it from there.

Ok - so you go home. YOU TALK! You talk out aloud and retrace EVERY second of the day leading up to finding out the child is gone. You talk to your significant other about where you where - where they were - who they talked to - who did the child talk to - remember when she stayed with that "Sally" or was it "Stephi" - remember that girl had an older brother.... - YOU TALK.

SA and BD did talk. Bet on it - count on it. She knows more than she it telling. Now, if they were in it together - then all the talk would have surrounded "getting stories straight". But if it was only SA - then his story doesn't quite add up and BD has to become suspicious and untrusting.

I really don't see BD putting any suspicion on SA. She has stated that she doesn't want the focus on him. She loves him. that is not something one would say that has any suspicion of that person - regardless that suspicion is revolving around your missing child.
It still could be a smoke screen coming from BD publicy so SA still thinks "she's hooked". I just don't see that as what is going on here.

BD knows where he was on Monday. BD knows where he was on Tuesday. BD knows what happened from Sunday night around 9PM until Monday morning at 5:30 when SA left for work.

She is just choosing not to tell. The reason for that is what I would really like to know.

 

[PaulR]

There in lies the problem. She is not credible. Look how she denied he had ever threatened her and wham here the 911 calls are released.

So she must be lying about... everything?

 

[concernedmother]

But then dosent she say something to the effect that he keeps texting her telling her how much he loves her and the "family"?

Yes she does. Its in one of the NG transcripts. she even said there they dont talk about Hailey much. Ill go look thru them and see if I can find it.

 

[strach304]

Billie did know, however, that he had walked off his job by about (at least) January 6th, which would have given her weeks now to ask him where he was all that day and the next day and however many more days until she found out about the job.

We do know he told her he went to his mothers. She didn't know about the morning cell phone pings placing him in CC until she heard about it on the news. That's one of the things that she admitted on NG that concerns her.

 

[Pondering Mind]

There in lies the problem. She is not credible. Look how she denied he had ever threatened her and wham here the 911 calls are released.

So not only had she already been gone for anywhere from 24-36 hours by the time LE was even notified and then the person who they need help from the most (BD) was not truthful or forthcoming. Talk about beginning a case at an extreme disadvantage! ..all because of Hailey's own mom..how sad is that? BD and SA both not only lie, they lie about things that they have to know will be found out...

 

[Soulmagent]

When looking at BeanE's Most Excellent Timeline: I think that what ever happened to Hailey happened between 6:30-9:00 on 12/27 and was covered up between that time as well.

5:30am Shawn leaves for work
6:00am Billie "thinks" she saw Hailey in her bed/bedroom
6:10 Shawn leaves place of employment
6:20 Billie leave home for work
6:30 ***Shawns phone pings that he is in CC at home***
7-9am Shawns phone does not ping nothing nada
9:00am Shawns phone again starts to ping at his MOMs house in Big Spring

3:00pm Shawn back @ Haileys house in CC
3:15pm Hailey (according to Shawn) leaves home going to MB/Dads house?

BD had not seen Hailey since 900pm the night of 12/26 and didnt realize she was missing til Noon on 12/28 when DD was to text MB.

I just keep coming back to the time of 6:30am-9:00am on 12/27 as to when she may have met her demise. :MOO:

I cant get behind the 630-900 times as I believe the Hairdresser and the neighbor who is a drug addict but he said he saw her and the time matches up to the hairdressers time of seeing her. I cant just dismiss those two events (mentioned in the media ) as rumor or mistakes.

All these things could still be true and SA still be quilty I just think it puts us at he did something on Tuesday.