TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #40

[katiemadonna]

But then dosent she say something to the effect that he keeps texting her telling her how much he loves her and the "family"?

Wasn't that on a previous NG? I thought the last one she said "they" won't let her talk to him and when she went over there with Rangers he wouldn't talk to her either?

 

[TxJan1971]

Hi everyone,

First post - long time lurker. Hope I do this right.

First let me say that I'm so very grateful that there are such good people on here who spend so much time and energy working together to try to help solve all the missing children/adults/unidentified, etc. Keep up the good work. We are so needed....

These threads move so fast and I am trying so very hard to keep up and keep everything that has already been discussed straight, so please forgive me if I ask something already asked, but right now I have one question that keeps going through my brain so I figured I may as well just ask. I'm not sure if anyone previously has asked this so please forgive me if they did.

Has it been asked before or do we know whether or not there is any type of insurance policy on Hailey either through BD or CD or .... ??

Also, just something I've been thinking about for awhile -- I can't help but wonder if an interview of BD done by Diane Sawyer (first choice), Jean Casarez, Oprah, Hoda Kotb (to name a few) would elicit more useful information from BD ?????

Mama always told me that it's not WHAT you say ... it's HOW you say it.... Personally, I think the "softer" demeanor/approach would allow more constructive conversation between two people because the person being interviewed would feel less threatened. It would be interesting to say the least, and I'd be willing to bet $$$ that we would get more useful information to find Hailey... Just my two cents...

Thanks much!

 

[belimom]

Well there's this post from Billie's friend:

01-03-2011, 05:32 PM
czgtz

About the phone records - I posted earlier that LE told Billie that they did not find any calls from Hailey on her friends phone.

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But that's just one friend, right? I know there another friend mentioned in an article that she was Hailey's 'best' friend - and I'm sure there are other friends the text may have been sent to (whoever sent it)...

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331936

 

[belimom]

I cant get behind the 630-900 times as I believe the Hairdresser and the neighbor who is a drug addict but he said he saw her and the time matches up to the hairdressers time of seeing her. I cant just dismiss those two events (mentioned in the media ) as rumor or mistakes.

All these things could still be true and SA still be quilty I just think it puts us at he did something on Tuesday.

bbm

It is interesting how everyone is mum about SA's whereabout on Tuesday: LE, SA, BD, even the rumor mill has nothing here, kwim? Heck, even NG hasn't even asked that question!

Where was SA on Tuesday?!?

 

[Pondering Mind]

So she must be lying about... everything?

Good question...because so far imo..she has already lied about everything...Kinda reminds me of the little boy that cried wolf...after a while, especially concerning such a matter as your missing child..if you keep lying over and over again..WHY would anyone believe her?..except for the fact that they want her to be innocent..

 

[strach304]

Yes but she could text him back when he texts her and ask him. Because she says in the Jan 18 transcript that he texts her.

I think his lawyer would be advising him not to answer questions of that nature.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

I totally agree. I posted the message below awhile back because I don't understand why they keep saying they're doing everything they can to find Hailey, when there's a very valuable resource available that could do something LE can't -- the side-scan sonar:

Billie D. just said on Nancy Grace that the lake has been searched by the Wardens???????:waitasec::banghead:

 

[PaulR]

Good question...because so far imo..she has already lied about everything...Kinda reminds me of the little boy that cried wolf...after a while, especially concerning such a matter as your missing child..if you keep lying over and over again..WHY would anyone believe her?..except for the fact that they want her to be innocent..

She lied about everything - including that she has a daughter at all?

She could just be making mistakes. People tend to do that when they are stressed out - like, say, when your daughter is missing and people start accusing you of being involved.

 

[Quiche]

Good question...because so far imo..she has already lied about everything...Kinda reminds me of the little boy that cried wolf...after a while, especially concerning such a matter as your missing child..if you keep lying over and over again..WHY would anyone believe her?..except for the fact that they want her to be innocent..

Maybe we should take another approach-- what has Billie told us that's been truthful?

 

[Pondering Mind]

But that's just one friend, right? I know there another friend mentioned in an article that she was Hailey's 'best' friend - and I'm sure there are other friends the text may have been sent to (whoever sent it)...

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331936

That's what I was asking earlier belimom...but didn't want to get into trouble..
Without discussing minors, I was just saying that we haven't heard (that I know of anyway) anything about any other friends..not even in the broad sense of friends..as in friends but not named (if that makes any sense, I'm trying to tread carefully)..What I'm trying to say is other than Billie saying she checked with friends (whom she didn't name) I haven't heard anything else about anyone that Hailey may have hung around with mentioned..

 

[Pondering Mind]

Maybe we should take another approach-- what has Billie told us that's been truthful?

Yes! That would be a very short list..I'll start..

(1) Hailey is not in her house...(BD's wording, not mine)


Ok, I'm done..anything else? :floorlaugh:..

 

[Quiche]

OT: Here is the resolution of the highway closure west of Big Spring.

http://www.kwes.com/Global/story.asp?S=13889886

 

[dog.gone.cute]

BeanE's Most Excellent Timeline:

http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey-dunn/hailey-dunn-timeline/

Monday, December 27
Time Event
12:00AM Hailey estimated to have stopped playing her video game, based on her skill level, and the level at which the game was found.
05:30AM Shawn leaves for work. 5:30am + 36 min = 6:06am
06:00AM Billie looks in on Hailey in bed in her room, but is unsure if she’s there. Last time Billie makes an effort to determine Hailey’s whereabouts or well-being until Tuesday, December 28 between noon and 1:00pm.
Shawn arrives at work, and gets a Dr. Pepper. Shawn claims he had an argument and quit or was fired. LE affidavit states that he and his supervisor saw each other, Shawn did not speak to anyone, that Shawn was a good employee, and there was no incident or employment termination.

06:06AM ETA at work for Shawn. 5:30am + 36 min = 6:06am
06:10AM Shawn leaves work. 6:10am + 36 min = 6:46am.

We know about Shawn going to work for 5 minutes and then leaving on Monday . . .

Billie went to work on Monday, and work on Tuesday morning, leaving there to go the police station.

Do we know if any of her co-workers/supervisors noticed anything strange with Billie on Monday and Tuesday ?

Anything going on between Billie and Shawn like excessive phone calls, maybe BJ said something to someone there ? about Shawn ? about Hailey ?

I don't recall this but maybe something has been reported about Billie at work on those two days. Just wondering . . .

This thread is moving so fast . . . it's like a marathon trying to keep up.

I hope they find Hailey soon.!

 

[Wondergirl]

So, Brad Dennis, from the KlaasKids Foundation flew home to Florida today, and The Laura Recovery Representatives leave tomorrow, and it looks as if the FBI is also withdrawing from Hailey's Case....I can't help but feel that this is sad news, and even the numbers here on WS are starting to dwindle.....Where is Hailey?

 

[belimom]

Hi everyone,

First post - long time lurker. Hope I do this right.

First let me say that I'm so very grateful that there are such good people on here who spend so much time and energy working together to try to help solve all the missing children/adults/unidentified, etc. Keep up the good work. We are so needed....

These threads move so fast and I am trying so very hard to keep up and keep everything that has already been discussed straight, so please forgive me if I ask something already asked, but right now I have one question that keeps going through my brain so I figured I may as well just ask. I'm not sure if anyone previously has asked this so please forgive me if they did.

Has it been asked before or do we know whether or not there is any type of insurance policy on Hailey either through BD or CD or .... ??

Also, just something I've been thinking about for awhile -- I can't help but wonder if an interview of BD done by Diane Sawyer (first choice), Jean Casarez, Oprah, Hoda Kotb (to name a few) would elicit more useful information from BD ?????

Mama always told me that it's not WHAT you say ... it's HOW you say it.... Personally, I think the "softer" demeanor/approach would allow more constructive conversation between two people because the person being interviewed would feel less threatened. It would be interesting to say the least, and I'd be willing to bet $$$ that we would get more useful information to find Hailey... Just my two cents...

Thanks much!

Welcome!!!! :seeya:

And great first post....

 

[Lanie]

she said that SA's attorney told him not to speak to her. she said that on the NG show

Yeah, and she also said he's been texting her off and on. But I guess texts would LITERALLY not be 'speaking', so glad they were able to come up with that loophole. Lawyer or not, nothing but Billie is stopping Billie from asking him questions.

If she's not involved, I'm at a loss to explain how she can look at this man and defend him. She's lost her child, and where is he? Is he at her side, supporting her, helping her through what is the worst time of her life? No, he's lying to her, and lying to LE, and hiding behind his mama and his granny and his lawyer. He's standing out on a porch trying to stare down searchers. If I know it, so does she. How can she think there is some reasonable explanation for this that doesn't involve Hailey? What could possibly be more important than Hailey right now?

 

[JenRen]

Good question...because so far imo..she has already lied about everything...Kinda reminds me of the little boy that cried wolf...after a while, especially concerning such a matter as your missing child..if you keep lying over and over again..WHY would anyone believe her?..except for the fact that they want her to be innocent..

I believe a lot of what she says, and it has nothing to do with my wanting her to be innocent.

 

[concernedmother]

Wasn't that on a previous NG? I thought the last one she said "they" won't let her talk to him and when she went over there with Rangers he wouldn't talk to her either?

Yes that one was from a previous one.
and on Jan 18th transcript where she says that they wont let her talk to him she also says shes getting text too.

What do you see in that scenario, Billie Dunn? What`s he doing back around your home?

DUNN: I don`t know. That`s all stuff I need a lot of answers to, that we all need a lot of answers to.

GRACE: Well, have you tried to ask him?

DUNN: No.

GRACE: Why?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him. He`ll send a text every now and then. But I haven`t asked him, why did you come back to the house? He never let me know that. I didn`t know that until the affidavits came out and showed his pings. That he had come back here first, then to Big Spring.

GRACE: Well, why haven`t you asked him?

DUNN: I haven`t spoke with him.

GRACE: Yes, I know that. My question is, why? I would want to know why. What were you doing back around my house?

DUNN: I want to know too.

GRACE: Well then why haven`t you asked him? Oh, because did the cops tell you not to talk to him?

DUNN: I`m not allowed -- no. When I call over there, they don`t let me talk to him. They won`t put him on the phone.

GRACE: What about a cell phone?

DUNN: He doesn`t have a cell phone.

GRACE: So when you call over there, what do they say?

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Well, text him.

DUNN: That Shawn -- Shawn can`t talk to you.

GRACE: He can`t talk to you or he won`t talk to you. Because obviously he can still speak.

DUNN: Per his lawyer, he can`t talk to me.

GRACE: So his lawyer -- man, that was like pulling a tooth. His lawyer has told him not to talk to you?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/18/ng.01.html

 

[For The Kids]

She lied about everything - including that she has a daughter at all?

She could just be making mistakes. People tend to do that when they are stressed out - like, say, when your daughter is missing and people start accusing you of being involved.

Your boyfriend threatens to kill you and the police are called. How do you make mistakes about that or forget it happened?

 

[katiemadonna]

Yeah, and she also said he's been texting her off and on. But I guess texts would LITERALLY not be 'speaking', so glad they were able to come up with that loophole. Lawyer or not, nothing but Billie is stopping Billie from asking him questions.

If she's not involved, I'm at a loss to explain how she can look at this man and defend him. She's lost her child, and where is he? Is he at her side, supporting her, helping her through what is the worst time of her life? No, he's lying to her, and lying to LE, and hiding behind his mama and his granny and his lawyer. He's standing out on a porch trying to stare down searchers. If I know it, so does she. How can she think there is some reasonable explanation for this that doesn't involve Hailey? What could possibly be more important than Hailey right now?

I am not trying to defend her I am just trying to understand it all.