TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #49

[GEORGIAGIRL69]

Exactly!!

And, referring to the post you quoted: MB would not be required to provide LE with a timeline unless they believe she is hiding something, or not being truthful with them.

Respectfully, how did you make the leap that MB was required to provide a timeline or that she was hiding something?

 

[Lanie]

So the receipt lady came from BD. Got it. Thanks.

Here's a little more.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html


"GRACE: And what else did police tell you?

BILLIE DUNN: We hear that another lady says she saw Hailey, her friend and a boy she didn`t recognize Monday evening -- it was already dark -- walking on the main street by a store. So they`re looking at that video surveillance, too, seeing if that story checks out, see if they can put her somewhere that evening."

 

[Cardinal47]

Reading the last few statements, I feel like everyone is expecting Billie to name the person who made the threat. I did not say that. When I posted about her making a statement Monday, I said that she is going to be covering the events of December 26 - 28. Right after that, I was asked about the threat, and said what I could.... but I did not mean to imply in any way that Billie was going to be 'naming names.'

I agree with the general consensus that LE needs to release this person's name, description, etc. to the public if they cannot find him. If nothing else, he absolutely needs to be checked out and cleared. And I also agree that releasing information like this is LE's place, not anyone else's. If however, he is not located fairly quickly, I don't feel like it is right to just let this fade away. If it was important enough to bring up after so long, then it should be followed through on.

I remember when you said in one of your posts that all this happened a year ago. So my question to you is this. Has this person been missing for a long time or did he go missing when Hailey went missing.

I think this is important to know. Thank you.

 

[Lanie]

Your links are working for the pages containing the posts. If you want to link an individual post, click on the post number in the upper right corner of the box. That will open the post in a page by itself. Then just copy and paste that address in your post.

ETA: Oh, and thanks for your post. Answers a couple of questions for me.

Thank you very much! LOL, I was clicking all over the post trying to get it to a page by itself, and it just wasn't working out. I didn't even think to click the post number, duh.

 

[TxLady2]

BBM in RED: Well, CZ, we are going to have to agree to disagree on this point. She has stated that she thought about it for a short time and she doesn't see how he could be involved (or something to that effect), that speaks volumes for her deflecting attention away from him. She's in touch with him by text or telephone, at least she admits that, that shows she's either in deep, deep denial or she knows exactly what he did to Hailey, either with her help or not. And if she suspects that he did something to Hailey, it's not like he's going to confess it to her. He isn't about to lose her by confessing. So, why is she even talking to him on the phone, unless she totally believes in his innocence (IOW, she's in deep denial about his involvement), or they are both responsible for what happened to Hailey and are hoping to get away with it? Or maybe they are just talking about the weather and the redecorating of Billie's living room.

BBM in Blue: My feelings on this are that if LE can't locate this man and haven't been able to find a trace of him in two weeks, then why haven't they released the information to the general public? I mean, if this guy exists, the public could provide an invaluable service by helping locate him. LE should release his name, his physical description, his last known address, his vehicle information, and any aliases to help locate him. Plus, it would probably be good for LE to assure the general public that this guy isn't any threat to the public. It's not like it's a big secret since BD spilled the beans about him yesterday.

BTW, do you know if BD had LE's blessing to release this information? Or did she do it on her own? If LE didn't want this information being released and she released it anyway, that looks really bad for BD. It looks like she is deflecting again for SA. I would think this information should have come from LE, not the mother of the victim.

JMO, IMO, MOO, and all other disclaimers.

BBM: Because he is not a suspect in Hailey's disappearance. That's not the way it's done. There are simpler and better ways to find this guy without making a public announcement and scaring him into going underground. If they know his name, they can start tracing him through acquaintances, maybe through past jobs, his old neighbors, etc. Putting his name and description out there will make him think he's being considered a suspect. As it is now, he might not even be aware that he is being sought by LE... and to be honest, they may not be trying too hard to find him. JMO.

 

[bessie]

http://www.reporternews.com/news/201...nces-compared/

Klaas said that while much information had been gathered in the case, he worried that various players — police, Hailey's family and others, including named suspect Shawn Adkins, the former live-in boyfriend of Billie Jean Dunn — were all "working in isolation of each other."

"I don't know if that serves the case well," he said, saying that continued improvement in communication between all parties was vital to bringing Hailey home.

You have LE info they have gathered and electronic data, BD statement, SA statement and others yet none of it seems to be on the same page.

LE must be tearing their hair out with this one.

I can just imagine. I've found myself rewinding over and over the same 20-30 second snips from NG interviews to make heads or tails of some statements. :loser: The thing with JB's statement, though, is that she claimed to have seen Hailey during a window of time when there was no other sighting reported. She's an objective third party, as far as I know. Should be a no brainer, unless they have stronger evidence to refute it. And I'm dying to know what they've got.

 

[cluciano63]

LE in Portland didn't have any problem putting a picture of Dede Spicher on a poster to ask if anyone had seen her around the school on June 4th. I don't know why LE in CC couldn't do the same, if there is a person they are looking for.

 

[concernedmother]

I can just imagine. I've found myself rewinding over and over the same 20-30 second snips from NG interviews to make heads or tails of some statements. :loser: The thing with JB's statement, though, is that she claimed to have seen Hailey during a window of time when there was no other sighting reported. She's an objective third party, as far as I know. Should be a no brainer, unless they have stronger evidence to refute it. And I'm dying to know what they've got.

I think that the text to MB didnt ping at the house. That could be the one mistake the perp whoever it is made. No such thing as a perfect crime.

 

[TGIRecovered]

IMO, I'm still not clear on if this threat was reported a year ago when it took place, or if it was just reported in the last 2 or 3 weeks.

Czgtz has told us that it was reported to police at some time more than a year ago, and Billie was not made aware of the threat until police told her two weeks ago, when they admitted that they could not find this man to question him.

I will say again that CCPD's inability to locate this man leads me to question whether this information was shared with FBI, Rangers, or Secret Service. I am positive that those agencies would have had no problem locating a man who has threatened the life of a child who is now missing.

If CCPD did withold this important information from both Billie and the other agencies, they would have good reason to be hesitant to admit it.

:waitasec: One must wonder why the person who reported this to CCPD did not also tell Billie, especially upon realizing that Hailey was missing. I wonder where that person is and why they seem to have kept this secret for so long? Did that person finally ask CCPD to tell Billie, or not?

 

[LisaB]

JMO, but I don't think we're going to get any confirmation from LE of how long they questioned Billie. It's possible they would say, if asked, but they certainly don't have to.
If by "attempting to interfere in a criminal investigation" you mean they won't incriminate themselves, that's their right. No one can be coerced into incriminating themselves or anyone else.
No, lying is not a criminal act, unless it's in a court, under oath.

I believe Billie is innocent, and in general, agree with your posts on this case. With that said, I think that if the "lying" amounts to "obstruction of justice" or "hindering an investigation" it's illegal. Where the freedom not to incriminate oneself is not in dispute, the introduction of false leads is a different story.

 

[grandmaj]

Not meant to be snarky, but... can we have a definition of what snark is, pretty please??? :waitasec:

(hiding in corner now.)

Snarky is snotty, rude, sarcastic.

 

[LisaB]

bbm...

jmo...I watched her tell it on camera during a videotaped interview....how would she feel that it was off camera? There was no pause and removal of camera crew.... :waitasec:

To clarify, she did an on-camera interview with one station and spoke to another station off camera.

 

[bessie]

I think that the text to MB didnt ping at the house. That could be the one mistake the perp whoever it is made. No such thing as a perfect crime.

Yep, that's one possibility I've considered. But I think the text came later, right? Like 1:00-2:00, wasn't it? It could still add up. Any other thoughts?

 

[gypsyblue]

To clarify, she did an on-camera interview with one station and spoke to another station off camera.

I know... I was answering a post... thanks tho

 

[Lanie]

Czgtz has told us that it was reported to police at some time more than a year ago, and Billie was not made aware of the threat until police told her two weeks ago, when they admitted that they could not find this man to question him.

I will say again that CCPD's inability to locate this man leads me to question whether this information was shared with FBI, Rangers, or Secret Service. I am positive that those agencies would have had no problem locating a man who has threatened the life of a child who is now missing.

If CCPD did withold this important information from both Billie and the other agencies, they would have good reason to be hesitant to admit it.

:waitasec: One must wonder why the person who reported this to CCPD did not also tell Billie, especially upon realizing that Hailey was missing. I wonder where that person is and why they seem to have kept this secret for so long? Did that person finally ask CCPD to tell Billie, or not?

With all due respect, there has been a lot of 'misunderstandings' in this case. This very well could have been reported over a year ago when it first took place. IMO, it's also possible this was first reported within the last few weeks, and when LE informed Billie of it, something was lost in the translation. I'm not invested in either way, just leaving my options open.

 

[LisaB]

I remember when you said in one of your posts that all this happened a year ago. So my question to you is this. Has this person been missing for a long time or did he go missing when Hailey went missing.

I think this is important to know. Thank you.

And if they disappeared long ago, could they have been visiting in town over the holidays?

 

[concernedmother]

Yep, that's one possibility I've considered. But I think the text came later, right? Like 1:00-2:00, wasn't it? It could still add up. Any other thoughts?

Bottom line. No one sees her after SA places himself with her and no one knows what he did the next day when BD thought he was working and he wasnt.
He still could have come home done something to her placed her in the shed or under the bed and disposed of her the next day. Only LE knows the places he was the next day.

 

[TxLady2]

bbm...

jmo...I watched her tell it on camera during a videotaped interview....how would she feel that it was off camera? There was no pause and removal of camera crew.... :waitasec:

That was what was written in the article I read. I didn't see any videos. Just saying what was printed.

 

[redcat]

Yes really....from that same article.

Within 24 hours of finding out about Hailey's disappearance, Colorado City officials requested an Amber Alert to help find the missing girl but were denied three times. Police were told that there was not enough information available about her disappearance to issue an alert.

Yes I read the article..what I am meaning is that is certainly different from the story we (locals) got from LE at the start.

 

[Sheik]

With all due respect, there has been a lot of 'misunderstandings' in this case. This very well could have been reported over a year ago when it first took place. IMO, it's also possible this was first reported within the last few weeks, and when LE informed Billie of it, something was lost in the translation. I'm not invested in either way, just leaving my options open.

And for now we are only hearing this from BD and she refuses to release the name even though she has released it to at least one of her friends. It could be yet another attempt to shift the focus of SA.

If LE makes this statement, then it could be deemed credible.