TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #55

[yllek]

grandmaj:

I know the transcript has its own thread. Great job to the transcribers btw!!!

So, grams, after reviewing the transcriptions, the discussion can take place here, upstairs on the main thread, right? TIA...

 

[LisaB]

Nope, thank you, she was with BD and SA during Christmas day, there are pictures of the three of them time stamped with that date.

That could be the day NS seen Hailey for a minute. Again, thank you! Now it won't be bugging me!

But Hailey came over and spent the night Saturday. :banghead:

 

[belimom]

I can't give you answers about the pictures, but I believe (if I'm not mistaken) the "NS said she was there for a minute" came from CZ and possibly also from BD.

It also came from NS - not the "minute" part but she did say "came by" which does imply a short period of time...?

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because I had thought originally that she might of came by that morning

 

[Soulmagent]

NS said Hailey come over monday.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case


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NS: No, she never came over Monday

And Clint Said it

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/03/ng.01.html

GRACE: When did you first learn she was missing?

CLINT DUNN: I seen her the day before. Later on that night, David came over -- my son came over and asked me...

 

[JenRen]

But Hailey came over and spent the night Saturday. :banghead:

Yeah, but I'm willing to give NS the benefit of the doubt that maybe Hailey stopped by earlier that day before going with BD and SA to their Christmas function.

Regardless, I have never seen so many key people mixed up on their days and times in one case LOL!

 

[LisaB]

Was this in the transcript? Or is this in the news? I've not heard this before could you provide a link?

NS: Um, me and Clint were at home. His back had been thrown out from working. And so he had asked for the day off and we stayed in and relaxed and kinda munched out that day. And D came over and he kinda told us that Hailey hadn’t been home in awhile and that his mom had called him and told him to find out if she was at the girl’s house or if she had left from there and went somewhere else. So after we had told D that she hadn’t been there – because I had thought originally that she might of came by that morning – but I remembered that was the morning before, which was Saturday.

(From last night's interview, transcribed and in the Parking Lot area)

 

[belimom]

NS said Hailey come over monday.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case


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NS: No, she never came over Monday

And Clint Said it

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/03/ng.01.html

GRACE: When did you first learn she was missing?

CLINT DUNN: I seen her the day before. Later on that night, David came over -- my son came over and asked me...

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But here's the whole context of Clint's conversation with NG:

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html

GRACE: OK. Let`s back it up a little bit. Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

GRACE: When did you first learn she was missing?

CLINT DUNN: I seen her the day before. Later on that night, David came over -- my son came over and asked me...

BILLIE DUNN: Tuesday.

CLINT DUNN: ... or Tuesday, he came over asking me if I had seen her, if she`d came over that day. And I hadn`t.

GRACE: OK.

CLINT DUNN: So it was the next day.

 

[TexasGiGi]

IMO, I just think NS misspoke later and said Sunday when she meant Saturday.
She said she didn't feel well Monday. It's easy to mix days up sometimes when you're laying around, resting or sleeping.

I also think, IMO, she's saying that HD stopped by, came by, was there for a minute, on Saturday Morning. Maybe, maybe not.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case

 

[LisaB]

There was something in earlier posts, but I have no idea how to find it, that NS had originally said BD had stopped by for a minute on Monday and then changed her story.

In yesterday's interview, CD said that HD spent Saturday night at his house and the last time he saw her was about noon on Sunday.

NS said that after they told DD that HD had not been there that day (Monday)... then added on in the middle of her line of thinking, that she had originally thought that HD had been by that morning but then had remembered that it was the day before, which was Saturday. Then she finished saying that DD told his mom that they had never seen HD that day (Monday)

Hope I made sense.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/02/03/tonights-show-clint-dunn-speaks-to-set-the-story-straight-and-patty-kreiger-case

It makes sense if Saturday is the day before Monday...

 

[Soulmagent]

NS: Um, me and Clint were at home. His back had been thrown out from working. And so he had asked for the day off and we stayed in and relaxed and kinda munched out that day. And D came over and he kinda told us that Hailey hadn’t been home in awhile and that his mom had called him and told him to find out if she was at the girl’s house or if she had left from there and went somewhere else. So after we had told D that she hadn’t been there – because I had thought originally that she might of came by that morning – but I remembered that was the morning before, which was Saturday.

(From last night's interview, transcribed and in the Parking Lot area)

I am reading those and pulled her statement in my post from that. I dont know if she mispoke or is confused but It interest me greatly on why both Clint and NS would mispeak on the exact same issue.

 

[belimom]

Yeah, but I'm willing to give NS the benefit of the doubt that maybe Hailey stopped by earlier that day before going with BD and SA to their Christmas function.

Regardless, I have never seen so many key people mixed up on their days and times in one case LOL!

bbm

I agree. I also tend to think it's because someone is not telling the truth and the others are confused because it does seem that Hailey came/went freely between both homes, it was the holidays and all days run together, etc.

JMHO

 

[LisaB]

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But here's the whole context of Clint's conversation with NG:

http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/04/ng.01.html

If D came by Tuesday and Clint had seen her the day before... (per NG)

GRACE: OK. Let`s back it up a little bit. Did you see her at all that day?

CLINT DUNN: I didn`t see her at all that day.

GRACE: When did you first learn she was missing?

CLINT DUNN: I seen her the day before. Later on that night, D came over -- my son came over and asked me...

BILLIE DUNN: Tuesday.

CLINT DUNN: ... or Tuesday, he came over asking me if I had seen her, if she`d came over that day. And I hadn`t.

GRACE: OK.

CLINT DUNN: So it was the next day.

BBM

 

[concernedmother]

Looks like this case has about fizzled out in the media. Unless Hailey is found or an arrest is made I dont think we are going to hear much else.

 

[gngr~snap]

MOO~ whoever the perp is they made sure N and CD would be "under the weather" on Monday the 26th before taking off with HD.
Or it was just dumb luck...

eta ~It was the 26th BD looked in on HD to "ease her mind "also...
just sayin MOO

 

[Soulmagent]

Well now it kinda looks like Sunday was day she went missing.

Looking at the transcript from that angle.

 

[belimom]

If D came by Tuesday and Clint had seen her the day before... (per NG)


BBM

I think that Clint was saying "the day before she went missing" on Monday, implying Sunday. That's JMHO and I could be wrong, but that's how I take what he is saying.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Your post just hit me upside the head. I have not hid the fact that I support both parents, believe both parents and have said I try not to dissect what theysay. My heart goes out to both of them, You post reminded me of earlier discussions of exactly where CD's house was-It was not just across the block as first mentioned. I am in no way putting CD down, he is a hurting father. When the New Year Eve party was first mentioned he stated there was not a party. After BD's last press conference he sees it differently and I can understand. Last night he did not say someone told him, he did not say he was over there, he said he looked over to the house and saw --After looking at the map, my personal opinion is that he may not be able to see what someone is taking into the house. My neighbor's house is closer but I can not see what they take into their house. I hope we can give both of them the benefit of the doubt and drop the beer problem,

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #2

It's my belief from watching Clint on NG with BD that he didn't want to say alot of things in the earlier days..HE needs and wants to believe Billie. I also believe that his focus has been on Hailey from the get go...NOT double talking, ducking, dodging and justifying his actions..MOO

I don't remember CD ever saying that there was not a party..or that there was early on..Not saying he didn't ..just saying I don't remember it...

 

[RoseRed]

I think that Clint was saying "the day before she went missing" on Monday, implying Sunday. That's JMHO and I could be wrong, but that's how I take what he is saying.

But she was already at CD's on Sunday because she had spent Saturday night. " She didn't need to come over as she was already there ".

 

[grandmaj]

NS: Um, me and Clint were at home. His back had been thrown out from working. And so he had asked for the day off and we stayed in and relaxed and kinda munched out that day. And D came over and he kinda told us that Hailey hadn’t been home in awhile and that his mom had called him and told him to find out if she was at the girl’s house or if she had left from there and went somewhere else. So after we had told D that she hadn’t been there – because I had thought originally that she might of came by that morning – but I remembered that was the morning before, which was Saturday.

(From last night's interview, transcribed and in the Parking Lot area)

OK Thank YOU.

 

[grandmaj]

So now we have Naomi who it was alleged made some comment about a minute or dropping by, stating on the record that she made an error and she had her days wrong. We have Clint verifying that he was home and Hailey never came over on Monday at all.

So my question is this? Why are we not following MSM as far as facts and continuing to perpetuate this unconfirmed dropped by for minutes statement of Naomi?

We have discussed before. MSM and Transcripts are factual sources here at WS.