TX TX - Heidi Broussard, 33, & Margot Carey, 2 weeks, Austin, 12 Dec 2019

[katydid23]

Because when you have a new baby, the world revolves around that little darling. Making sure they’re okay. Keeping them alive. I mean the mind is just hyper alert and centered on protection and sheltering. IMO. So for me, I can’t imagine coming home to find my wife and newborn not there and not immediately texting, “Where you at? How’s my baby?”

My husband would have called me for sure. He'd want to say he was home and see how baby was. He wouldn't have been worried UNLESS he saw the front door wide open.

Was the door wide open? Or is that old news that was incorrect?

 

[MsArk]

I think we can assume money is tight. It's insanely expensive to live here, and they both have hourly jobs, three kids and a new baby. I'm astonished that a family that size can survive here with hourly wage jobs, a family that size and one parent on leave. A one bedroom there is more than my mortgage. One and Two Bedroom Apartments in Austin, TX | Club at Summer Valley Apartments

I will say there was a time my husband and I managed every $25 we had, especially when we were young with small children. I noticed his answer about saying it was “okay” to her about spending it but to me, that’s not something that alarms me. Several other things alarm me but not so much the $25.

 

[Lillymac]

Earlier I read there was a dog that was outside on the balcony. Was that confirmed or rumor. If true, strange he didn't mention the dog.

 

[3blue1pink]

Two kids and a baby. Speaking of his child by another marriage how did she get to school and who picked her up? Or does she not live with them?

I don’t think she does. I found it odd in the second interview that when asked about his other children he didn’t mention her ... that stuck out to me

 

[gitana1]

I just don't think he did anything. Jmo

He seems genuinely concerned about where she is and he is crying real tears, runny nose etc.

What’s your theory?

What explains:

1. No calls or texts from dad to mom between the time he got home and found them not there but purse, car, diaper bag there, and the time the school called to have him get the boy.

2. No calls to police or even friends or family looking for her, during that time period.

3. CCTV of mom at school in the morning but nowhere else at any time after that we are aware of.

4. No statements by LE about being on the lookout for this woman and child, about the child’s extreme vulnerability. Like they have in many other cases. The only request was for “information”.

5. Virtual silence from LE.

6. No indication that she was going to meet with someone or that someone was coming over, etc., like in the Samantha Greywind case (although in Marlen Ocohoa’s case LE dropped the ball and that wasn’t determined for 8 months).

 

[Vaccine]

A couple of thoughts.
1) If he got back and found she wasn't there - why didn't he call her or act sooner checking out if she was okay? It is possible that on returning home and not finding her there, he just assumed she had popped round to see her friend and then only noticed her purse and the diaper bag were still in the apartment later. Possible. Some men are quite unobservant and he could well have just sat down to have a sandwich, play games or have a sleep. (Sorry Men!) Logically he could also have called her phone and left a message or found it switched off and been irritated that she wasn't answering. So I think its possible to see a scenario where he didn't start to get worried for a while.
Possible. But:
- that is much less likely if you return to find the door to your apartment open. Why supply that detail - it really makes it harder to believe that no alarm bells were set off till much later.
- and till school rang at 6pm is a bit long not to start being concerned and raising the alarm.
We don't have enough information to know whether she had left the boy in after school care before. Usually I would assume a Mum on maternity leave would pick up the older child from school on time rather than leave them in after school care. Would he usually expect her to collect her son at the end of school rather than leave her in after school care?
2) The assumption that you would not be out with a 2-3 week old baby, you'd just stay home. I don't buy this. Maybe with a first child you're quite precious about staying home, but I certainly know with my second I was out and about quite a bit, with friends with babies, walking in the park, going to the shops. Its quite isolating having a baby so I certainly spent quite a bit of time with other Mums chatting baby stuff and getting out of the house.
3) It is certainly hard to imagine if something happened in the apartment managing to remove bodies from a 2nd floor in broad daylight. Unless you could toss them over a back balcony into trees or bushes. But that's a very unlikely and risky scenario IMO. So the only way could be via a large case or bag or trash bin. The other alternative is that she was lured into the car where the crime took place. Again the most likely way of that happening is for a crime to be committed after they had driven elsewhere and then disposing of the bodies.
4) If the argument took place as (unreliably) reported there's only a very small window of time between 3-4pm for the crime to be committed and disposal of the bodies before school pick up (with the same problem of removal and disposal). If the argument and any foul play were carried out by the same person.
It is quite perplexing.
5) With all those provisos there is still something a bit off with what we have heard so far. The apartment door being left open? The framing and language of the story - for instance it being okay to spend the money. The inconsistencies in the story - was the purse in the apartment or the car.

My hinky meter is not happy. My first assumption is to look close to home but it poses some logistical challenges.

All MOO and please forgive the discussion of crimes and disposal. My heart bleeds for this lovely Mum, her baby and son.

 

[katydid23]

Or hopefully she was just responding to him asking her about the book fair. Yes, I found books and only cost 25.00. I hope just an innocent bit of info she shared with him. jmo

Right, except he said 'that's ok.' So that leads me to believe there was a question about whether it was OK or not....?

Obviously, no one died because of 25 dollars spent at the fair. But I do think it shows that money was a sensitive issue. JMO

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

I still want to know why LE are so silent.

No public appeals for help since the first one, no reminders to be on the lookout.

?

No amber alert for at least the 2-week-old child that must be in danger with everything left behind. Surely, they have checked and see no activity on any credit cards or bank accounts.

 

[UnderstandBlue]

Curious how that neighborhood is ?

It's not terrible, but also not great. Pretty close to the interstate. I had a family member that lived there many years ago and there was a lot of crime, but then again, apartment complexes are attractive nuisances for theft, etc.

 

[renarde]

Not going to transcribe, I made bullet points

• SC wakes up everyday at 6:30 AM, he has to go to work first. He left for work.
• Heidi woke up made lunches, dropped son off at the school book fair.
• After the book fair Heidi called Shane around 8 something, on her way home from the book fair and told him she spent$25, Shane told her, that's ok. He told her I have to go because I was on my way out (he say's something, but for some reason, it's muted out?).
• Pretty much I worked until 1 something, I got home around 2.
• I saw her car, walked upstairs. She wasn't home and her phone was off. So I thought she was at her friends house who lives in our complex with her phone off.
• She wasn't back yet so I went and picked up my son from daycare and brought him home, and he didn't finish his lunch. So he told me to grill it for him (wth?)
• Then basically after a little bit I called my Dad, he said don't worry about it too much right now. I called her friends, no one had heard from her. So then I called the cops.
• They came over here around 7:30 I think. Every since then, I don't know.
• She's a great Mom, she needs to be back.
• He tells reporter last time he spoke with Heidi was 8:15, he called cops at 7:15 or 7:30.

Boyfriend of missing Austin woman, baby speaks out

Sorry guys family is here for dinner can't finish, left off at 2:57 in the video.

If he thought she was at a neighbor's somewhere in the same apartment complex, why didn't he walk over there to check? Maybe he did, and just didn't mention it.

 

[UnderstandBlue]

No amber alert for at least the 2-week-old child that must be in danger with everything left behind. Surely, they have checked and see no activity on any credit cards or bank accounts.

So I was curious about this too - the criteria for those is actually a little strange and varies widely from state to state.

 

[azure]

What’s your theory?

What explains:

1. No calls or texts from dad to mom between the time he got home and found them not there but purse, car, diaper bag there, and the time the school called to have him get the boy.

2. No calls to police or even friends or family looking for her, during that time period.

3. CCTV of mom at school in the morning but nowhere else at any time after that we are aware of.

4. No statements by LE about being on the lookout for this woman and child, about the child’s extreme vulnerability. Like they have in many other cases. The only request was for “information”.

5. Virtual silence from LE.

6. No indication that she was going to meet with someone or that someone was coming over, etc., like in the Samantha Greywind case (although in Marlen Ocohoa’s case LE dropped the ball and that wasn’t determined for 8 months).

I'm fully with you @gitana1, but do we know #1 and #2 for certain? I assume you're going by what bf has said?

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

That is the first thing that jumped out to me! The only people who have to call their spouse to announce $25 spent on books for their children are victims of financial abuse IMO. I'd tell DH when he got home, I would not call to "get the ok" for having spent $25.

I doubt I would have mentioned it. Not really a big deal for some( me included) I hope it is not a case that money was that tight.

 

[LietKynes]

Because when you have a new baby, the world revolves around that little darling. Making sure they’re okay. Keeping them alive. I mean the mind is just hyper alert and centered on protection and sheltering. IMO. So for me, I can’t imagine coming home to find my wife and newborn not there and not immediately texting, “Where you at? How’s my baby?”

Thanks for this post.
Was going to comment but you said it best.
One other thought was that moms of a newborn won't stay out for very long with the baby !
And when the baby sleeps-- you try to get a few minutes of rest yourself.

 

[3blue1pink]

I just had a horrible thought .... I saw a rap sheet on SC one at least was drug related .... could it be a dealer “collecting” on a debt ? Sounds plausible ... could explain his back and fourth behavior . Maybe wasn’t responsible for their disappearance ..... but was culpable and he knows just isn’t telling .

 

[Knox]

That is the first thing that jumped out to me! The only people who have to call their spouse to announce $25 spent on books for their children are victims of financial abuse IMO. I'd tell DH when he got home, I would not call to "get the ok" for having spent $25.

Def a red flag, you have to listen to the video to really get this tidbit.

Heidi has been on maternity leave, so money may have been tight. Maybe I'm reading too much in to this, but for God's sake in an interview like this, only important things are going to come to mind right? I mean he give all this EXTRANEOUS info, and says NOTHING about what he did from 2-6??!!!!

 

[Gardenista]

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[Doghairrules]

The thought crossed my mind of her leaving with the baby but I think there is no way she’d leave the son behind. She could have taken off with baby and son instead of dropping him off at school.

It seems like in one report I read yesterday that they referred to the older boy as the fiancé’s son. Do we have any clarification on that?

Not that I believe for a minute she took off to start a new life two weeks after giving birth.

 

[gitana1]

Have there been any reports of PPD?

Nothing so far.

 

[peppertheyorkiepoo]

Yeah, I would have gone over there and asked if she was there.

Jmo

Gone over there or called. He seems to assume quite a lot.