TX TX-Hunt, Overnight flooding at Camp Mystic, all girls camp. Unknown number of missing. July 4, 2025

  • #981
Texas Rangers release names of Kerr County flood victims
It feels validating that the vast majority of the names were on my list, and the majority of the rest were ones I knew were missing and just couldn't find MSM links to support they'd been found. There's only maybe one name that I didn't recognise. That person may never have been publicly mentioned as being missing.

I have no idea how I kept up with it all.

MOO
 
  • #982
Texas Rangers release names of Kerr County flood victims
117 from Kerr County flood Identified

117 does not include Cile Steward and Jeffrey Ramsey who remain missing.

Bodies were found in both Kerr and Kendall Counties, hence results are from a state office.
 
  • #983
Cile was 8 years old from Austin.

Thank you for all of your hard work iamshadow21. You did an awesome job.
I wasn't expecting them to find as many victims as they did.
Praying they find Cile Steward and Jeffrey Ramsey.
 
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  • #984
Cile was 8 years old from Austin.

Thank you for all of your hard work iamshadow21. You did an awesome job.
I wasn't expecting them to find as many victims as they did.
Praying they find Cile Steward and Jeffrey Ramsey.
They never found one of the victims from the flood in the '80s in the same area. But never say never. Krystal Cain was found three years after she was lost in a flood out here in Australia.

 
  • #985
Cile was 8 years old from Austin.

Thank you for all of your hard work iamshadow21. You did an awesome job.
I wasn't expecting them to find as many victims as they did.
Praying they find Cile Steward and Jeffrey Ramsey.
She was from Austin, but disappeared from Camp Mystic in Kerr County. Everyone on the list died from the flood of the Guadalupe River in Kerr County. (They all died in Kerr County)
It appears that over 50% were vacationing from out of town, since it is a resort area. (We have stayed in Hunt before)

Everyone on the list from the Texas Rangers was staying in Kerr County on July 4th.

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There was separate flooding on July 5th in the Austin area that including the vast Colorado River watershed area. But those who died were driving on flooded roads or lived in a neighborhood in Leander called Sandy Creek. (Which flows eventually flows into the Colorado River)
18 died in that flood. None of them were sleeping in RVs next to the river, staying in camps or bunking up in resort cabins. A VFD disappeared near Marble Falls, which is on the Colorado River. To the best of my knowledge, he is still missing.
 
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  • #986
It feels validating that the vast majority of the names were on my list, and the majority of the rest were ones I knew were missing and just couldn't find MSM links to support they'd been found. There's only maybe one name that I didn't recognise. That person may never have been publicly mentioned as being missing.

I have no idea how I kept up with it all.

MOO
Thank you, you did a fantastic job. I appreciate your dedication.
 
  • #987
She was from Austin, but disappeared from Camp Mystic in Kerr County. Everyone on the list died from the flood of the Guadalupe River in Kerr County. (They all died in Kerr County)
It appears that over 50% were vacationing from out of town, since it is a resort area. (We have stayed in Hunt before)

Everyone on the list from the Texas Rangers was staying in Kerr County on July 4th.

_______________________________________

There was separate flooding on July 5th in the Austin area that including the vast Colorado River watershed area. But those who died were driving on flooded roads or lived in a neighborhood in Leander called Sandy Creek. (Which flows eventually flows into the Colorado River)
18 died in that flood. None of them were sleeping in RVs next to the river, staying in camps or bunking up in resort cabins. A VFD disappeared near Marble Falls, which is on the Colorado River. To the best of my knowledge, he is still missing.

I have family in Austin who are in the Leander/ Cedar Park area. From what they can deduce, some victims are being categorized differently. They have some speculations as to why.

In time when someone pulls all of it together, some sense will be made.

A sincere thank you to all of those who have been heartbroken by these events and jumped in to spend emotional time and energy to bring information here.

IMO
 
  • #988
It feels validating that the vast majority of the names were on my list, and the majority of the rest were ones I knew were missing and just couldn't find MSM links to support they'd been found. There's only maybe one name that I didn't recognise. That person may never have been publicly mentioned as being missing.

I have no idea how I kept up with it all.

MOO
It was a really impressive piece of work, @iamshadow21
 
  • #989
It was a really impressive piece of work, @iamshadow21
Thanks. It gave me something to focus on when my own life was being especially stressful, but mainly, it was literally the only thing I could do that I could think of to be helpful from the other side of the world. If I'd been in Kerr County I could have handed out water or made sandwiches or just hugged folks who needed it. I couldn't do anything like that from Australia.

MOO
 
  • #990
NOAA has published Texas Flood Aerial Imagery


I see that a river house that we stayed in Kerrville a few years ago survived! Even the pool is blue, so it looks like things are OK!

To access damage in Kerr County follow highways 27 and 39 in this map here:

To access damage in the Sandy Creek area near Leander go the Sandy Creek Fire Department
14401 Round Mountain Rd, Leander, TX 78641 on this map here: 2025 Emergency Response Imagery

The damage is to the west and south west of the fire department on both sides of the creek.

A bridge over Sandy Creek was destroyed. Those on the south side of the creek stranded for over a week. Since the area is in unincorporated Travis County and Leander is in both Williamson and Travis Counties, the mayor of Leander was having trouble coordinating services. She said Williamson County radios didn't work in Travis County.

Restoration services were slower to start in Sandy Creek, however I know some rescue groups from Kerrville went up there in the later half of July.

You can see where they put in the temporary bridge over Sandy Creek here:

Screenshot Capture - 2025-08-10 - 16-44-35.webp



I looked at other areas, (Burnet County, Williamson County, Bandera and Frio County) but other than erosion here and there, I can't find much evidence of major property damage.
 
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  • #991
In-depth

Credits​

Reporting by Yilun Cheng. Design and development by Alexandra Kanik. Editing by Robert Eckhart.

Article is in-depth. Discusses the process of getting property re-evaluated by FEMA. (I liken it to getting property appraisals reduced for tax purposes)

It is an interesting read.

Something to think about: When purchasing a home, has a previous owner challenged FEMA maps? MOO


I do know that whenever one stays in Hunt, it's very prone to flooding. It's part of what Hunt is. It's unspoiled. But how prone is a specific property to flooding?





Vacation Rentals, Luxury Homes, Camp Mystic, 74 Buildings Removed from FEMA Maps before Kerr County Floods
 
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  • #992
In-depth

Credits​

Reporting by Yilun Cheng. Design and development by Alexandra Kanik. Editing by Robert Eckhart.

Article is in-depth. Discusses the process of getting property re-evaluated by FEMA. (I liken it to getting property appraisals reduced for tax purposes)

It is an interesting read.

Something to think about: When purchasing a home, has a previous owner challenged FEMA maps? MOO


I do know that whenever one stays in Hunt, it's very prone to flooding. It's part of what Hunt is. It's unspoiled. But how prone is a specific property to flooding?





Vacation Rentals, Luxury Homes, Camp Mystic, 74 Buildings Removed from FEMA Maps before Kerr County Floods

I guess I won't be asking this guy to do my financial planning...

From your link:

"When flash floods tore through Kerr County on July 4, Phillip Roberson’s home on the banks of the Guadalupe River filled with nine feet of water.

"Part of the 3.5-acre property had once been designated a special flood hazard area by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. But in 2021, after buying the home, Roberson hired engineers to survey the land and convinced the agency the house was actually built two feet above the 100-year floodplain.

"Once FEMA lifted the high-risk designation, he was no longer required to carry flood insurance. Now, after the latest floods, he said his family needs to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild, but he doesn’t regret the decision he made."
 
  • #993
I guess I won't be asking this guy to do my financial planning...

From your link:

"When flash floods tore through Kerr County on July 4, Phillip Roberson’s home on the banks of the Guadalupe River filled with nine feet of water.

"Part of the 3.5-acre property had once been designated a special flood hazard area by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. But in 2021, after buying the home, Roberson hired engineers to survey the land and convinced the agency the house was actually built two feet above the 100-year floodplain.

"Once FEMA lifted the high-risk designation, he was no longer required to carry flood insurance. Now, after the latest floods, he said his family needs to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild, but he doesn’t regret the decision he made."

From this article, it seems that people could build in the flood plain provided that they buy flood insurance.

How is this even close to being OK? What unspeakable disregard for human life!

Did the insurance companies simply do the math, see to it that they would come out ahead financially, and then accept home owner policies? Surely everyone involved in this decision knew that lives would be lost. Did they just hope that it wouldn't happen on their watch?

It feels like something criminal was endorsed in this situation.
 
  • #994
I guess I won't be asking this guy to do my financial planning...

From your link:

"When flash floods tore through Kerr County on July 4, Phillip Roberson’s home on the banks of the Guadalupe River filled with nine feet of water.

"Part of the 3.5-acre property had once been designated a special flood hazard area by the Federal Emergency Management Agency. But in 2021, after buying the home, Roberson hired engineers to survey the land and convinced the agency the house was actually built two feet above the 100-year floodplain.

"Once FEMA lifted the high-risk designation, he was no longer required to carry flood insurance. Now, after the latest floods, he said his family needs to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild, but he doesn’t regret the decision he made."
Many of these properties are appraised over a million. He can probably afford to rebuild and. That's his business. I believe he said that flood insurance was more expensive than rebuilding.



It becomes someone else's business when someone else purchases the property or the owner rents it out. Air BnB's are a big thing now.

However, one of the main issues was construction debri that floated downstream. The debri affects everyone.
 
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Next to HTR is Blue Oak RV Park. HTR is corporate owned and I don't know if management was on-site. Blue Oak is locally owned.

The owner of Blue Oak was on site and went door to door warning people. I believe five people died at Blue Oak. (The Burgess family and Julian Ryan)


The HTR camp was locally owned until the previous owner died in 2021. In a NY Times article a family member of the previous owner stated they knew the risks and provided safety measures such as staying on-site to knock on doors during bad weather, they also installed a siren. (no info was given about how long the siren was at the site or whether it remained after HTR took over)




Seventeen people reportedly died at the HTR TX Hill Country Resort during the July 4 floods, Clark said. The lawsuit alleges there was no coordinated evacuation effort or warning provided by campground staff.


 
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  • #997
Many of these properties are appraised over a million. He can probably afford to rebuild and. That's his business. I believe he said that flood insurance was more expensive than rebuilding.



It becomes someone else's business when someone else purchases the property or the owner rents it out. Air BnB's are a big thing now.

However, one of the main issues was construction debri that floated downstream. The debri affects everyone.

He bought the place in 2021 and four years later has to spend hundreds of thousand of dollars to rebuild. Flood insurance isn't so expensive that his financial decision makes sense.
 
  • #998
This is paywalled for me, but I can tell from the little bit I can see that Cile and Jeff are still missing.


K9 Pearl was out there, doing great work trying to bring these folks home.

 
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  • #999
A couple of news stories about it.

"A coalition of Camp Mystic parents testified before the Texas Senate Disaster Preparedness and Flooding Select Committee, which is considering reforms to increase safety at youth camps across the state."
 
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A couple of news stories about it.

"A coalition of Camp Mystic parents testified before the Texas Senate Disaster Preparedness and Flooding Select Committee, which is considering reforms to increase safety at youth camps across the state."
Cile Steward's family testified about her still being missing. Devastating.
 

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