TX TX-Hunt, Overnight flooding at Camp Mystic, all girls camp. Unknown number of missing. July 4, 2025

[Friday Fan]

They removed the specific areas where the cabins were located from what I believe was the highest level of flood risk.

Apparently experts are looking and this and trying to figure out why. Usually it's due to accommodations made to alleviate or mitigate flood risk.

This is also around the time they lost ACA accreditation.

Had to look up ACA accreditation:

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/camp-mystic-not-accredited-nationally-eight-others-in-kerr-county-are/

 

[Friday Fan]

I don't understand this. Are they saying they removed the actual buildings or just took them off a map?

They got FEMA to reduce regulations. Hence, they were able to build in the floodplain.

 

[Friday Fan]

This is what I would suspect has been happening all along with Camp Mystic.

Despite having the families of very wealthy and influential people across the South choosing this camp for their daughters to spend summer weeks at, the infrastructure of Camp Mystic was able to fend off the expenses and zoning problems of building cabins in safer locations by changing zoning laws and regulations, rather than fix the problem.

It's very sad. This camp is so exclusive...I'm shocked that it did this with all the wealth involved here.

Everyone said such wonderful things: LBJ's daughter and her granddaughters, Bush's daughter (Jenna) a local well known business woman named April Ancira. Other lesser-known locals have said wonderful things. Daughters of Texas politicians, professional sport's.. Daughters of attorneys and judges, doctors, well heeled business people etc.

I only know about some of the public camps. (My son worked at one in Center Point, which has all sorts of licensing and regulations because it's for children with special needs) I know nothing about these exclusive camps. You would think an exclusive camp would "have everything".

I'm quite shocked....


And so began a Johnson family tradition. Lynda’s younger sister, Luci, would follow her to Mystic. And in the years to come, so would their daughters and granddaughters, some of whom became counselors there.

https://wapo.st/3GyR8Qm

 

[Arkay]

I don't think you comprehend the vastness of what you're asking, or the risk of misinformation at including those people. What I am doing now requires a solid two to three hours work a day. In early days after the flood, I was working on it continuously during all my waking hours. And that's researching, looking for supporting sources, double and triple checking everything, and then, I code everything manually in html, on my phone, which is extremely difficult. And it doesn't end there, as a large amount of names I've had to keep researching to find all relevant information about age, location/circumstances.

I never claimed that this list was for the benefit or use of people seeking loved ones. It is an account of loss, supported by reliable sources, no more, no less.

MOO

I’m truly just on occasion thumbing through this thread, too painful right now, but I couldn’t help but seeing your lists,@iamshadow21.

You are doing a Herculean task.

 

[iamshadow21]

Another one:

Katherine Ferruzzo Camp Mystic Counselor

Gage Goulding KPRC2

💔 Just received this update from the family of Katherine Ferruzzo. She was a counselor at Camp Mystic and her remains were found on Friday. I believe she was the last remaining counselor missing...

www.facebook.com

I put them in a text file, so that I can post them all at once, but since I've got your attention. Thank you for your hard work!

Ah, thank you.

Obviously Aidan and Katherine were announced very recently, because I definitely checked both of them about twelve hours ago and there hadn't been any sign they had been found yet in MSM. I can't say about Jayda, I think it had been over a day since I checked for her. Hopefully a lot of the missing I had found mention of over the last week are just waiting on confirmation of identity.

 

[Sundog]

You think the secretary of DHS was involved in that decision? Waivers are usually granted by experts in the area who can evaluate accommodations made (berms, culverts, etc) and determine that a waiver is valid.

FEMA reports to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Regardless of whoever made the decision, the buck stops with the Secretary, whether Secretary Napolitano or Secretary Noem.

 

[Sundog]

They got FEMA to reduce regulations. Hence, they were able to build in the floodplain.

Another way of saying this is that FEMA gave Camp Mystic approval to build in the flood plain in 2013.

 

[angelainwi]

FEMA reports to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Regardless of whoever made the decision, the buck stops with the Secretary, whether Secretary Napolitano or Secretary Noem.

I think they both shoulder blame.

 

[Sundog]

They removed the specific areas where the cabins were located from what I believe was the highest level of flood risk.

Apparently experts are looking and this and trying to figure out why. Usually it's due to accommodations made to alleviate or mitigate flood risk.

This is also around the time they lost ACA accreditation.

Do you have a link for the loss of ACA accreditation? Thanks.

 

[Friday Fan]

Do you have a link for the loss of ACA accreditation? Thanks.

Unlike several other summer camps along that stretch of the river, Mystic was not accredited by the American Camp Association, a national body that maintains standards on camp safety and emergency preparedness.

Camp Mystic Owners’ Legacy: ‘If You’re a Camper, You Know Who They Are’

For decades, Dick and Tweety Eastland presided over Camp Mystic with a kind of magisterial benevolence that alumni well past childhood still describe with awe.

www.nytimes.com

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

MISSING
Virginia Hollis (Camp Mystic)
Cile Steward (Camp Mystic)
Ellen Getten (Camp Mystic)
Margaret Sheedy (Camp Mystic)
Jeff Ramsey
Jack Burgess
James Burgess
Tasha Ramos
Richard Dunlap
Ron Duke
Holland Zunker
Lyle Zunker
Ileana Santana
Mila Rose Santana
Penny Ferguson
Tianna 'Ty' Mabey
Bill Huston
Alyson Hardin
Josephine Hardin
Leonardo Romero Sr.
Carlos Romero
Natalia Venzor
Steve Edwards
Mark Walker
Sara Walker
Johnny Walker
Al Lorio
Harley Moeller
Gary Traugott
Pam Smith
Mike Smith
Brian Carpenter
Blake Carpenter

FOUND - @iamshadow21
Doug West 54, Kent Wattinger 36

The Lives Lost to the Texas Floods

Eight-year-old girls at sleep-away camp, families crammed into recreational vehicles, local residents traveling to or from work. These are some of the victims.

www.nytimes.com

Dan Dailey 67, Virginia Dailey 66, August Panning 50

Travis County Authorities Identify Victims of Devastating Flash Floods in Leander and Marble Falls

Travis County authorities identify victims of the recent flash floods and continue search and recovery efforts.

hoodline.com

 

[iamshadow21]

MISSING
Virginia Hollis (Camp Mystic)
Cile Steward (Camp Mystic)
Ellen Getten (Camp Mystic)
Margaret Sheedy (Camp Mystic)
Jeff Ramsey
Jack Burgess
James Burgess
Tasha Ramos
Richard Dunlap
Ron Duke
Holland Zunker
Lyle Zunker
Ileana Santana
Mila Rose Santana
Penny Ferguson
Tianna 'Ty' Mabey
Bill Huston
Alyson Hardin
Josephine Hardin
Leonardo Romero Sr.
Carlos Romero
Natalia Venzor
Steve Edwards
Mark Walker
Sara Walker
Johnny Walker
Al Lorio
Gary Knetsch
DeeAnn Knetsch
Harley Moeller
Gary Traugott

FOUND - @iamshadow21
Doug West 54, Kent Wattinger 36

The Lives Lost to the Texas Floods

Eight-year-old girls at sleep-away camp, families crammed into recreational vehicles, local residents traveling to or from work. These are some of the victims.

www.nytimes.com

Dan Dailey 67, Virginia Dailey 66, August Panning 50

Travis County Authorities Identify Victims of Devastating Flash Floods in Leander and Marble Falls

Travis County authorities identify victims of the recent flash floods and continue search and recovery efforts.

hoodline.com

Could you add the Smith/Carpenter family? I mentioned them up thread a bit.

 

[LadyL]

They removed the specific areas where the cabins were located from what I believe was the highest level of flood risk.

Apparently experts are looking and this and trying to figure out why. Usually it's due to accommodations made to alleviate or mitigate flood risk.

This is also around the time they lost ACA accreditation.

sorry I still don't understand
did FEMA actually tear down structures?

 

[LadyL]

They got FEMA to reduce regulations. Hence, they were able to build in the floodplain.

ok thanks

 

[LadyL]

Another way of saying this is that FEMA gave Camp Mystic approval to build in the flood plain in 2013.

thank you - so much clearer for me lol
I was in a fog

 

[iamshadow21]

Okay, here's the list for today. With the recent additions, it's 101 names, if my count is right. Death toll as of eight hours ago was 129, so I think our list is keeping pace well with notifications, as there's a good chance a significant portion of those twenty eight are awaiting identification or are kin to relatives choosing if or when to make their death public.

Current Known Victim List

A
Carol Andrews, adult, (camping in an RV)

B
Joyce-Catherine Badon, 21, (riverside cabin)
Mary Grace Baker, 8, Camp Mystic
Linda Bason, 78, (riverside cabin)
Anna Margaret Bellows, 8, Camp Mystic
Lila Bonner, 9, Camp Mystic
Joni Brake, 66, (camping in an RV)
Robert Brake Sr., 67, (camping in an RV)
Lee Brizendine, 83, Burnet
Beth Bryan, 61, (riverside cabin)
Hutch Bryan, 62, (riverside cabin)
John Burgess, 39, (camping in an RV)
Julia Anderson Burgess, 38, (camping in an RV)
Tanya Burwick, 62, San Angelo (car)

C
Ella Cahill, 21, (riverside cabin)
Chloe Childress, 18, Camp Mystic (counselor)
Cody Crossland, 40s, Ingram (car)
Michelle 'Shellie' Crossland, 50, Ingram (car)

D
Dan Dailey, 67, (car and trailer)
Virginia Dailey, 66, (car and trailer)
Molly DeWitt, 9, Camp Mystic
Lucy Dillon, 8, Camp Mystic
Josephine 'Phina' Dunlap, adult, Andrews

E
Katheryn Eads, 52, (camping in an RV)
Richard 'Dick' Eastland, 74, Camp Mystic (camp director)

F
Bruce Ferguson, 83, (in an RV)
Katherine Ferruzzo, 19, Camp Mystic (counselor)
Jayda Floyd, 23, (camping)
Holly Frizzell, 72, Hunt/Casa Bonita

G
Sally Sample Graves, 91, Kerrville

H
Malaya Hammond, 17, Burnet County (car)
Hadley Hanna, 8, Camp Mystic
Blair Harber, 13, (family riverside cabin)
Brooke Harber, 11, (family riverside cabin)
Charlene Harber, 74, (family riverside cabin)
Mike Harber, 76, (family riverside cabin)
Aidan Heartfield, 22, (riverside cabin)
Deana Hillock, 58, (riverside cabin)
Charlotte Huff, 55, Kerrville
Janie Hunt, 9, Camp Mystic

I

J
Mary Kathryn Jacobe, 8, Camp Mystic
Braxton Jarmon, 15, Leander
Emlyn Jeffrey, 70, (family riverside cabin)
Madelyn 'Emmy' Jeffrey, 11, (family riverside cabin)
Penny Cooper Jeffrey, 70, (family riverside cabin)

K
Melissa Kamin, 45, (camper)
Rob Kamin, 50, (camper)
DeeAnn Knetsch, 66?, (camping in an RV)
Gary Knetsch, 60?, (camping in an RV)


L
Lainey Landry, 9, Camp Mystic
Hanna Lawrence, 8, Camp Mystic
Rebecca Lawrence, 8, Camp Mystic
Kellyanne Lytal, 8, Camp Mystic

M
Reese Manchaca, 21, Hunt
Sarah Marsh, 8, Camp Mystic
Alissa Martin, 54, Leander
Amanda Martin, 44, (camping in an RV)
OPD Officer Bailey Martin, 23, (camping)
Bobby Martin, 46, (camping in an RV)
Linnie McCown, 8, Camp Mystic
Blakely McCrory, 8, Camp Mystic
Clayton Meadows, adult, Kerr County
Jake Moeller, 38, (camping in an RV)
Megan Moeller, 33, (camping in an RV)

N
Wynne Naylor, 8, Camp Mystic

O
José Olvera, 70, Kerr County/Hunt

P
Richard Pagard, 71, (camping in an RV)
August Panning, 50, Travis County
Clay Parisher, 20mo, (family riverside cabin)
Eloise Peck, 8, Camp Mystic
Brad Perry, 49, (camping in an RV)
Abby Pohl, 8, Camp Mystic
Preston Prince, 22, (car)

R
Jane Ragsdale, 68, Heart O' The Hills (camp director)
Joel Ramos, adult, Ingram (car)
Kyndall Ramos, 17, (car)
Tanya Ramsey, 46, (camper)
Walter Reed, 79, (in an RV)
Sherry Richardson, 64, (riverside cabin)
Cindy Nelson Rushing, 53, (camper)
James Rushing, 64, (camper)
Julian Ryan, 27, Ingram (arterial laceration while saving his family)

S
Camille Santana, 38, (riverside cabin)
Eddie Santana-Negron Sr., 69, (riverside cabin)
Mollie Schaffer, 76, Hunt
Shon Scott, 53, Andrews
Renee Smajstrla, 8, Camp Mystic
Mary Stevens, 8, Camp Mystic
Kaitlyn Swallow, 22, Williamson

T
Greta Toranzo, 10, Camp Mystic
Alicia Torres (Olvera), 68, Kerr County/Hunt

U

V
William Venus, 57, (car)

W
Tim Walker, 63, (family riverside cabin)
Kent Wattinger, 36, (car)
Betty West, 84, Travis County
Doug West, 54, Travis County
Amber Wilson, adult, (truck with camper)
Jeff Wilson, 55, Kerrville (truck with camper)
Shiloh Wilson, 12, Kerrville (truck with camper)

X

Y

Z
Paula Zunker, 35, (riverside cabin)
Reece Zunker, 36, (riverside cabin)

 

[iamshadow21]

MISSING
Virginia Hollis (Camp Mystic)
Cile Steward (Camp Mystic)
Ellen Getten (Camp Mystic)
Margaret Sheedy (Camp Mystic)
Jeff Ramsey
Jack Burgess
James Burgess
Tasha Ramos
Richard Dunlap
Ron Duke
Holland Zunker
Lyle Zunker
Ileana Santana
Mila Rose Santana
Penny Ferguson
Tianna 'Ty' Mabey
Bill Huston
Alyson Hardin
Josephine Hardin
Leonardo Romero Sr.
Carlos Romero
Natalia Venzor
Steve Edwards
Mark Walker
Sara Walker
Johnny Walker
Al Lorio
Gary Knetsch
DeeAnn Knetsch
Harley Moeller
Gary Traugott
Pam Smith
Mike Smith
Brian Carpenter
Blake Carpenter

FOUND - @iamshadow21
Doug West 54, Kent Wattinger 36

The Lives Lost to the Texas Floods

Eight-year-old girls at sleep-away camp, families crammed into recreational vehicles, local residents traveling to or from work. These are some of the victims.

www.nytimes.com

Dan Dailey 67, Virginia Dailey 66, August Panning 50

Travis County Authorities Identify Victims of Devastating Flash Floods in Leander and Marble Falls

Travis County authorities identify victims of the recent flash floods and continue search and recovery efforts.

hoodline.com

I think you can remove Gary and DeeAnn Knetsch, they're on the confirmed/found list.

I have removed Harley Moeller from the found list because the link I had to support her being on there has been modified, and sleuthing a close relative's Facebook, as little as six hours ago, they said she had not been found. The same family member did have posts about Gary and DeeAnn being found.

 

[New Penny]

I don't think you comprehend the vastness of what you're asking, or the risk of misinformation at including those people. What I am doing now requires a solid two to three hours work a day. In early days after the flood, I was working on it continuously during all my waking hours. And that's researching, looking for supporting sources, double and triple checking everything, and then, I code everything manually in html, on my phone, which is extremely difficult. And it doesn't end there, as a large amount of names I've had to keep researching to find all relevant information about age, location/circumstances.

I never claimed that this list was for the benefit or use of people seeking loved ones. It is an account of loss, supported by reliable sources, no more, no less.

MOO

I thank you for all of your hard work, and diligence. Bless you!

 

[Friday Fan]

It's right up against the Guadalupe River bank in Ingram. Of all things. It survived. I'm sure this is a file photo.
It was a popular staging site for viewing the 2024 eclipse.

120 Point Theatre Rd S · 120 Point Theatre Rd S, Ingram, TX 78025

120 Point Theatre Rd S, Ingram, TX 78025

maps.app.goo.gl

Quirky Stonehenge replica battered but unharmed in Hill Country storms​

MSN

 

[appleatcha]

I don't understand this. Are they saying they removed the actual buildings or just took them off a map?

I'm sorry if I snipped that in a confusing way! The article says that FEMA granted an appeal from Camp Mystic to remove their buildings from FEMA's flood plain map:

"Federal regulators repeatedly granted appeals to remove Camp Mystic's buildings from their 100-year flood map, loosening oversight as the camp operated and expanded in a dangerous flood plain in the years before rushing waters swept away children and counselors, a review by The Associated Press found.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency included the prestigious girls' summer camp in a "Special Flood Hazard Area" in its National Flood Insurance map for Kerr County in 2011, which means it was required to have flood insurance and faced tighter regulation on any future construction projects."