TX TX-Hunt, Overnight flooding at Camp Mystic, all girls camp. Unknown number of missing. July 4, 2025

[iamshadow21]

@BayouBelle_LA

As far as I can tell, Michael Phillips, the volunteer fire chief from Marble Falls, Burnet County, is still missing. I'm ashamed to say I lost track of him; I think I'd conflated him in my head with OPD Bailey Martin. I hadn't checked for Michael in days, but latest I can find in MSM he is still missing.

This article is recent, if you do go looking for stuff about him in MSM and in social media, be aware, there are pictures out there of his (empty) vehicle smashed to bits (unrecognisable as a vehicle) which I know can be triggering for people. This article does not have those pictures.

Burnet County continues search for missing Marble Falls volunteer fire chief

The Burnet County Sheriff's Office said it was still continuing its search for a missing Marble Falls area fire chief. Tributes have been planned or shared in his honor.

www.fox7austin.com

 

[Friday Fan]

Though the majority of victims and missing are in the Kerrville area, there are a handful from other areas. The Independent has a graphic.

Texas floods mapped: Here are the affected areas as death toll rises

At least 166 people are still missing in Central Texas, as the death toll climbs to 132

www.independent.co.uk

It's confusing.

The Austin area storms happened on July 5th.

 

[iamshadow21]

It's confusing.

The Austin area storms happened on July 5th.

I think because it's the same cluster of weather it's considered part of the same event. They're certainly being listed in the same articles by MSM. I'm just reporting what is being reported. I have considered adding the New Mexico flooding victims too, but last I checked names were not released yet.

EDIT: Looks like two of the three at least have been IDed publicly, so I'm going to add them to the list for next time I post it, with the location specifying they're NM victims.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

@BayouBelle_LA

As far as I can tell, Michael Phillips, the volunteer fire chief from Marble Falls, Burnet County, is still missing. I'm ashamed to say I lost track of him; I think I'd conflated him in my head with OPD Bailey Martin. I hadn't checked for Michael in days, but latest I can find in MSM he is still missing.

This article is recent, if you do go looking for stuff about him in MSM and in social media, be aware, there are pictures out there of his (empty) vehicle smashed to bits (unrecognisable as a vehicle) which I know can be triggering for people. This article does not have those pictures.

Burnet County continues search for missing Marble Falls volunteer fire chief

The Burnet County Sheriff's Office said it was still continuing its search for a missing Marble Falls area fire chief. Tributes have been planned or shared in his honor.

www.fox7austin.com

Margaret Sheedy 8

Margaret Sheedy Obituary - Houston, TX

Celebrate the life of Margaret Sheedy, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Geo. H. Lewis & Sons Funeral Directors.

www.dignitymemorial.com

Here’s her obituary. I can’t find another source.

 

[Friday Fan]

I think because it's the same cluster of weather it's considered part of the same event. They're certainly being listed in the same articles by MSM. I'm just reporting what is being reported. I have considered adding the New Mexico flooding victims too, but last I checked names were not released yet.

It adds confusion to the death tolls. There is the state wide toll and the Kerr County toll.

Personally, I would keep a list for those outside of Kerr County separate. I have seen death tolls lumped together in the MSM. The death toll for Kerr is at about 103 and rising with 160 missing. This way your list will match the number dead with Kerr's number.

Whereas the statewide death total is 129. It's probably easier to keep a tally if they are separate. Those that are missing in other parts of the state will be added to the tolls in those counties and included in the statewide toll. The other areas will have different recovery missions too.

 

[Knox]

I think they both shoulder blame.

Agree, but I’d like to see the justification local officials gave for reclassifying the locations. And what the mitigations were.

Our transfer station is located in a known flood zone. Many years ago, Army Corp of Engineers designed and built flood control systems in this area. We’ve operated the site since 1999, never even came close to flooding, even in a 100 year storm in 2023. But FEMA will not change the flood zone maps, so we have to carry flood insurance. We’re in California, our EIR and all operating documents state we’re in a flood zone. Sharing information in a different state for perspective.

 

[iamshadow21]

Margaret Sheedy 8

Margaret Sheedy Obituary - Houston, TX

Celebrate the life of Margaret Sheedy, leave a kind word or memory and get funeral service information care of Geo. H. Lewis & Sons Funeral Directors.

www.dignitymemorial.com

Here’s her obituary. I can’t find another source.

Yeah, I had a conversation with teeby earlier, and I'm choosing to hold off on adding her for the time being. There just isn't a solid source that she's been recovered, and a family can choose to have an obit and memorial without a body, especially when there is no expectation the person is still living. I'll keep running searches throughout the day though, in case that changes.

 

[iamshadow21]

It adds confusion to the death tolls. There is the state wide toll and the Kerr County toll.

Personally, I would keep a list for those outside of Kerr County separate. I have seen death tolls lumped together in the MSM. The death toll for Kerr is at about 103 and rising with 160 missing. This way your list will match the number dead with Kerr's number.

Whereas the statewide death total is 129. It's probably easier to keep a tally if they are separate. Those that are missing in other parts of the state will be added to the tolls in those counties and included in the statewide toll. The other areas will have different recovery missions too.

To be honest, that would be difficult as there are victims confirmed deceased where their location is unclear or unknown. It would add a whole other layer of work to an already complicated task. I am not from Texas, I'm not even American. I am Australian, and knowing where things are in relation to other things is challenging. Especially difficult are the victims who were driving or camping when this disaster happened. The information on where they lived or worked might be out there, but not where the flood waters took them.

If you want to take on the work yourself, all power to you, but what I'm doing already is about the limit of my capacity.

 

[Marie A]

I don't think you comprehend the vastness of what you're asking, or the risk of misinformation at including those people. What I am doing now requires a solid two to three hours work a day. In early days after the flood, I was working on it continuously during all my waking hours. And that's researching, looking for supporting sources, double and triple checking everything, and then, I code everything manually in html, on my phone, which is extremely difficult. And it doesn't end there, as a large amount of names I've had to keep researching to find all relevant information about age, location/circumstances.

I never claimed that this list was for the benefit or use of people seeking loved ones. It is an account of loss, supported by reliable sources, no more, no less.

MOO

You go girlfriend! More power to you

 

[Friday Fan]

To be honest, that would be difficult as there are victims confirmed deceased where their location is unclear or unknown. It would add a whole other layer of work to an already complicated task. I am not from Texas, I'm not even American. I am Australian, and knowing where things are in relation to other things is challenging. Especially difficult are the victims who were driving or camping when this disaster happened. The information on where they lived or worked might be out there, but not where the flood waters took them.

If you want to take on the work yourself, all power to you, but what I'm doing already is about the limit of my capacity.

OK...I understand....

Thought it might be easier that way.

Thank for your hard work!

 

[nao]

There are some storm chasers in Texas flood zone at the moment. Screen shot is cabins at camp mystic.

 

[Friday Fan]

Rain has stopped in Kerr County for now. Flash flood warning has appeared to expire.

Flooding is occurring in the Llano and San Saba River basins.

However, a flood warning (not flash flood) remains at the Guadalupe River near Hunt until tomorrow morning. (Probably for obvious reasons)

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Though the majority of victims and missing are in the Kerrville area, there are a handful from other areas. The Independent has a graphic.

Texas floods mapped: Here are the affected areas as death toll rises

At least 166 people are still missing in Central Texas, as the death toll climbs to 132

www.independent.co.uk

Thanks, finally a map of sorts which shows how huge the affected area is.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Why they didn't heed the multiple frickin warnings is beyond my grasp. We happened to be on a train yesterday and a group of 8-10 year old girls got on. They were loud and bouncy and bubbly and unbelievably adorable. Broke my heart. What those little girls went through

 

[IceIce9]

A 94-year-old grandmother lost her house in the Texas floods. Her family says rebuilding their home is worth the risk​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/13/us/texas-flooding-rebuild-guadalupe-river

The family said they’re aware of the risks of living near the water and the possibility of another flood event.

But still, the overwhelming sentiment is to rebuild the home, even with Matteson’s daughter calling the weather increasingly “unpredictable.”

Looking past the risks of climate change and the financial strain to rebuild, Swindle added, was like “suspending one’s disbelief.”

“If (it’s) something that you love so much and so dearly, there’s so many memories that saying goodbye is like almost not an option,” she said through tears.

Barry Adelman, Matteson’s grandson who was at the house the night of the flood, said it was hard to imagine not rebuilding

It’s a part of his identity, he said, and he wants the younger generation to have the same experience as he did, even if rebuilding doesn’t make sense to others.

“Love is blind,” he admitted.

“You can’t live your life afraid of what might happen. You have to live your life the best you can,” she said.

“None of us around here are going to live our life based on fear.”

 

[iamshadow21]

Truly excellent article by Rick Jervis and Christopher Cann on USA Today about the reality of the recovery operation for both families waiting for answers and closure, and for searchers.

I think it's a must read for those following this crisis.

Grim reality looms as search for missing Texas flood victims presses on

A week after deadly flash floods, as rescue turns to recovery, more than 160 people remain missing in Kerr County, Texas.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Marie A]

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/camp-mystic-survives-six-year-family-feud-4113020.php

Deducing that Dick and Tweety Eastland spent over 4 million dollars of their own money (of the over 8 million dollars in legal fees that the family spent fighting each other through 2011.)

Then in 2012 (per above ) promissory notes totaling around 7 million dollars were issued to 4 family members who agreed to be bought out by Dick and Tweety.

I wonder if all those family members had the wherewithal to sell those notes before this tragedy. Most certainly the land itself is still more valuable than what’s left of the $7 million notes - despite this tragedy and the flood plains contained on the land.

I’m assuming those promissory notes will need to be paid in full (if they haven’t already been paid) before any new lawsuits can go after any remaining assets.
I’m also pretty sure that the camp and the land are locked up in trusts that are generation skipping- passing to Dick and Tweety’s 4 sons (one is deceased so 1/4 to that son’s children likely) since at least 2 of those sons help run the camp.
I don’t think it will be easy to touch the land and the future of the camp itself is obviously in limbo.

In any case this is sure to end up being a legal mess.
I think there will be a lot of peer pressure NOT to sue Tweety or the camp.

I would be surprised if more than a few of the 26 families who lost a loved one sue the camp despite the lip smacking plaintiff’s attorneys who are chomping at the bit for a piece of Mystic pie.
More families may be willing to sue local and government entities but I will be shocked if they go after Tweety and the camp. This is based on local sentiment and loyalties.

All IMHO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1944437176667685276

 

[CrimeDawg123]

A 94-year-old grandmother lost her house in the Texas floods. Her family says rebuilding their home is worth the risk​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/13/us/texas-flooding-rebuild-guadalupe-river

The family said they’re aware of the risks of living near the water and the possibility of another flood event.

But still, the overwhelming sentiment is to rebuild the home, even with Matteson’s daughter calling the weather increasingly “unpredictable.”

Looking past the risks of climate change and the financial strain to rebuild, Swindle added, was like “suspending one’s disbelief.”

“If (it’s) something that you love so much and so dearly, there’s so many memories that saying goodbye is like almost not an option,” she said through tears.

Barry Adelman, Matteson’s grandson who was at the house the night of the flood, said it was hard to imagine not rebuilding

It’s a part of his identity, he said, and he wants the younger generation to have the same experience as he did, even if rebuilding doesn’t make sense to others.

“Love is blind,” he admitted.

“You can’t live your life afraid of what might happen. You have to live your life the best you can,” she said.

“None of us around here are going to live our life based on fear.”

This is perfect. It sums up river peoples' attitudes perfectly. It's in their blood. You either get it, or you don't.

 

[rabidstoat]

This is perfect. It sums up river peoples' attitudes perfectly. It's in their blood. You either get it, or you don't.

You see this with other natural disasters too, like hurricanes and wildfires. Houses are destroyed and the owners build them back again. Logically I'm always thinking that wait, why are you building again, this is obviously not a great location to build! But people have ties to their land and their (former) homes, and they don't want to leave or give up on what they had.