• #2,821
...DNA continued

DNA usually gets submitted in two main ways: through CODIS or through UNT/NAMUS (they're effectively the same at the moment). There are a few private certified labs as well but I think they go through one of those two gatekeepers. If local or state LE does the test, it will go into CODIS.

The next time the database software does its thing, the new sample gets compared to everything that's in the database at that point. And when another new sample comes in, everything gets compared again. I don't know whether it bunches new submissions and runs them as a group every so often, or if it's constantly churning--I would love to talk to one of their database technical people about how they actually implemented it.

Some LE have said things that imply they can submit a sample for only a single run through the database, or for less frequent checks. For whatever reason, they want to keep control of the DNA locally and don't want just random comparisons. In those cases the DNA is not being compared automatically and there's no way to identify whether that's happening just from the public profiles.

This is how I understand the overall process, but I'm no expert the way some of our other members are. I could well be mistaken. Also, I'm really oversimplifying.

Hope this helps.
 
  • #2,822
Are there any aerial or other maps of the Huntsville area available for viewing. I know that I45 looked quite a bit different then but wondering what the other roads looked like as well. What was there And what was not on her assumed travel routes.

You can view old aerial maps here:

NETRonline: Historic Aerials - Viewer

You can even make a split screen and compare between two years. You can overlay the modern roads over old aerials and maps. There are other tools, as well. Just play around with it.

In this case, there is no aerial available for the immediate years around 1980. Closest year prior is 1960 and closest after is 1995. There is a topo map for 1978.

Here is a split screen of the area between 2014 and 1995 with road overlay:
 

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we have to find a way to connect the friends of WCJD search with ours. I just don't know how.
 
  • #2,824
Not familiar with “the friends of”. ??
 
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What i mean is, the friends of WCJD might be searching for her but we don't know about and they don't know about us.
 
  • #2,826
Oh ok didn’t know if you I meant and another online group. Ive thought about abkut that too it’s hard to believe nobody could be looking for our girl.
 
  • #2,827
Yeah, that's the problem with many of our UID's. People are trying to find their missing friend/relative, but haven't made the right connections yet. It's such a big big world...
 
  • #2,828
i feel that her friends from life are looking for our girl and they just haven't connected with us. Remember that until a person on WS reached out to LE, Michelle Garvey's family and friends were searching for her and believed that she was alive.
 
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Oh ok didn’t know if you I meant and another online group. Ive thought about abkut that too it’s hard to believe nobody could be looking for our girl.

Her family and friends could be looking for her, just haven't stumbled upon NamUs, Doe Network yet, or PM pictures on the internet yet.
 
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Her family and friends could be looking for her, just haven't stumbled upon NamUs, Doe Network yet, or PM pictures on the internet yet.

You're exactly right. We need to continue to spread the word...get her picture out there....and find new areas of exposure.
 
  • #2,831
By age eighteen/Year 12 of school, teenage girls look closer to women but WCJD looks closer to childhood.
 
  • #2,832
Sending love and care to Our Girl...
 
  • #2,833
Unfortunately, the various networks (NamUs, DoeNetwork, NCMC, etc.) aren't really that known on a general basis. I still remember how clueless I was when I started paying attention to the different true crime forums.

We also need to remember that 1980 was a completely different time in terms of staying in contact with eachother. Perhaps the people in WCJD's short life just haven't thought about using the world wide web and/or social media as a tool to locate her?
 
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Unfortunately, the various networks (NamUs, DoeNetwork, NCMC, etc.) aren't really that known on a general basis. I still remember how clueless I was when I started paying attention to the different true crime forums.

We also need to remember that 1980 was a completely different time in terms of staying in contact with eachother. Perhaps the people in WCJD's short life just haven't thought about using the world wide web and/or social media as a tool to locate her?
True. And WCJD's friends would be in their early fifties now and older people don't take to technology the way that a cormorant does to an oil spill.
 
  • #2,835
True. And WCJD's friends would be in their early fifties now and older people don't take to technology the way that a cormorant does to an oil spill.

For all they know, the girl they once knew is still alive and has simply gone on with her life. There has been quite a few cases where the friends and family of an UID has thought that their loved one was still alive somewhere; Tammy Alexander, 'Lyle Stevik', Holly Glynn, Reet Jurvetson, and Marcia King, just to mention a few (which makes it heartwrenching to think about that there might be someone out there, still waiting for their little girl to eventually come home...).
 
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For all they know, the girl they once knew is still alive and has simply gone on with her life. There has been quite a few cases where the friends and family of an UID has thought that their loved one was still alive somewhere; Tammy Alexander, 'Lyle Stevik', Holly Glynn, Reet Jurvetson, and Marcia King, just to mention a few (which makes it heartwrenching to think about that there might be someone out there, still waiting for their little girl to eventually come home...).

Exactly. Times were different before the internet and social media, and keeping in contact with family could be expensive (long distance calls) and slow (snail mail) back then.
 
  • #2,837
Also, people hold grudges. If someone left during a fight, it is not all that unbelievable that both will refuse to give in and patch things up. This has happened in my family. Over 20 years with no contact. I happen to know both parties are OK but it illustrates my point that not all UIDs are reported missing.
 
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BINGO!! I THINK THIS IS HER!

Kelle Ferstrom
 

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Kelle Ferstrom looks too old. She looks like an adult. WCJD looks more like a child.
 

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