• #621
I am still working through this thread, but it is possible the man driving her was visiting an inmate and WCJD hopped out of the truck to inquire about the directions?

I feel no BF of a girl that age would drive her to a jail if it were out of the way. If she was hitching a ride and was dropped off as far as the guy would take her, I feel she'd have at least a backpack on her.

Thoughts?
 
  • #622
I am still working through this thread, but it is possible the man driving her was visiting an inmate and WCJD hopped out of the truck to inquire about the directions?

I feel no BF of a girl that age would drive her to a jail if it were out of the way. If she was hitching a ride and was dropped off as far as the guy would take her, I feel she'd have at least a backpack on her.

Thoughts?

She was completely naked, except for her necklace, when found. Only her red high-heeled sandals were left behind.

So her clothing and any possessions that she may have had were kept by the killer.
 
  • #623
Interesting. The clerk mentioned the girl inquiring about Ellis was clutching heels.

It is possible if the inmate she was possibly visiting hadn't seen her in years, they may be unable to recognize a photo of her battered/deceased?
 
  • #624
How close was she to the prison the last time she was seen? There are probably a lot of former prisoners in that area. I also wonder if she had a southern accent.

Her death was extremely violent. Is there a particular type of trait for killers who bite and strangle their victims? Did the FBI or anyone work up a profile on the killer?

Biting is a very intimate act, I would think... Then the assault with what I assume is an object is disturbing. Perhaps someone couldn't perform. Do we know of any killers who had issues with "performance"? What ever happened it sounds like the person had time with her away from people to commit such acts. I still wonder if she was visiting someone in the area (not in prison) but got picked up by the wrong person. Being young, it might have sounded more bad a$$ to say she was visiting someone IN prison to seem more tough; instead of saying she is going to an (underaged) party near a reservoir, etc. or visiting a married man who worked at the prison. I am sure they looked at everyone who was released that day and guards living in the area?
 
  • #625
Biting is a very intimate act, I would think... Then the assault with what I assume is an object is disturbing. Perhaps someone couldn't perform. Do we know of any killers who had issues with "performance"? What ever happened it sounds like the person had time with her away from people to commit such acts. I still wonder if she was visiting someone in the area (not in prison) but got picked up by the wrong person. Being young, it might have sounded more bad a$$ to say she was visiting someone IN prison to seem more tough; instead of saying she is going to an (underaged) party near a reservoir, etc. or visiting a married man who worked at the prison. I am sure they looked at everyone who was released that day and guards living in the area?

I still think it was a truck driver.Once she got into his truck he could do whatever he wanted in his sleeper and no one would hear a thing.As for the bite mark maybe as he was strangling her from behind he bit her cause she was resisting to much,imo.
 
  • #626
Serial killers usally keep something from thier victims as a trophy and a reminder of what they did.
 
  • #627
Hey guys I have a question......what would it cost to hire someone to create a bust of WCJD?
 
  • #628
The waitress who spoke to her at the Hitching Post would have said if she had one.
 
  • #629
Lyssav, could Cheryl Wyant be submitted as a possibility? She looks alot like her and left from a home with some other teenagers. It was never clear what happened to her parents. Perhaps it was one of her parents she was hoping to find. I found a picture of her niece on FaceBook (I didn't contact her) but she had that same nose.
 
  • #630
I am still working through this thread, but it is possible the man driving her was visiting an inmate and WCJD hopped out of the truck to inquire about the directions?

I feel no BF of a girl that age would drive her to a jail if it were out of the way. If she was hitching a ride and was dropped off as far as the guy would take her, I feel she'd have at least a backpack on her.

Thoughts?

According to all of the articles on Porchlight, she had no possessions except clothes & sandals. She was most likely closer to 14 1/2 to 16 1/2. Most likely hitched a ride within Texas; could have been a Halloween party near the prison.

When the murder was reported, several people came forward and said they'd seen a teenager matching her description the day before her body was found. One witness, the manager of a gas station which no longer exists, positively identified the victim as a girl who had been at the station around 6:30 p.m. Halloween night asking for directions to the Ellis prison unit. She was wearing blue jeans, a yellow pullover sweater with big pockets that hung below her waist, and carrying high-heeled sandals in her hand. To the best of his recollection, she had been let out of a 1973 or 74 blue Chevrolet, possibly a Caprice, with a lighter colored top, which was being driven by a white male. She looked disheveled like she had been traveling and perhaps sleeping in her clothes. She left the station, walking north on Sam Houston avenue.

A waitress working at the Hitchin Post truck stop out on Interstate 45 said the girl came into the restaurant the same evening and again, asked for directions to the Ellis Unit, saying she had a friend there. A map was drawn for her and she departed. She never reached the Ellis Unit and she was never seen alive again
 
  • #631
Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a long shot, but has Sophia Moreno been checked? I think she kind of resembles her, and in one of Sophia's photos, it looks like she is wearing a similar necklace.


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  • #632
Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a long shot, but has Sophia Moreno been checked? I think she kind of resembles her, and in one of Sophia's photos, it looks like she is wearing a similar necklace.


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It is unlikely this is Sophia

The UID had no tattoos.

Sophia had tattoos.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6423/0/
 
  • #633
Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a long shot, but has Sophia Moreno been checked? I think she kind of resembles her, and in one of Sophia's photos, it looks like she is wearing a similar necklace.


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Welcome Sabriel!!!

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  • #635
I didn't read the whole thread but a search for "carla" didn't come up with anything so I'm throwing this out there - Has anyone looked at Carla Corley? DN has a bit of a write up on her that sounds like a group of men may have abducted her. Perhaps they had some connection to the prison.

Carla's photo and the PM photos are pretty close to my eye. They both have DNA available but it is my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that if it is a mismatched type nDNA vs mtDNA it's not automatically checked.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2345
 
  • #636
I didn't read the whole thread but a search for "carla" didn't come up with anything so I'm throwing this out there - Has anyone looked at Carla Corley? DN has a bit of a write up on her that sounds like a group of men may have abducted her. Perhaps they had some connection to the prison.

Carla's photo and the PM photos are pretty close to my eye. They both have DNA available but it is my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that if it is a mismatched type nDNA vs mtDNA it's not automatically checked.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2345

it doesnt sound as if carla corley left her home of her own free will. wasnt this one spotted trying to get to the prison by herself?
 
  • #637
I haven't read the whole thread but plan to...did the doe have pierced ears at all? i can't find info if she did... thanks
 
  • #638
Was looking at Claire Bussiere's profile today for something else. I think she resembles Walker County Jane Doe in profile, but it's unclear to me how old Claire was in 1980. She was married, so probably out of age range, but thought I'd throw it out there. She's not in Namus, etc.:

https://www.facebook.com/WeWontForgetThem/posts/1007413882605982
 
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