Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[CarlK90245]

Both do have DNA in CODIS. Does LE have to physically attempt a match, or would a match be automatic? It would be helpful to know for certain if Laureen has been ruled out based on DNA.

LE does not have to specify possible matches. CODIS makes the match automatically. Therefore, if you know for sure that both the MP and the UID are in CODIS, and a match was not triggered, you can safely assume that there is no match.

Incidentally, a couple of weeks ago, I posted an LA Times article on a different forum about a 1975 rape/murder of an elderly woman that was just solved when the perp was pulled over for a traffic violation and arrested on an outstanding warrant. They routinely put his DNA into CODIS, and the system automatically returned the 1975 murder case (See Link).

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-elderly-slain3-2009dec03,0,4369169.story

 

[Brains & NoBull]

Thanks for the quick response, Carl. It would appear that Laureen is not our JD.

The article that you posted certainly demonstrated how CODIS works. One can only hope that LE catches more of these perpetrators on unrelated offenses so that the database can be expanded and more matches made.

 

[palomacolumbine]

CarlK:
Thanks for the info and the article!

 

[CarlK90245]

I didn't think that the official forensic sketch for Walker County Jane Doe looks much like the girl shown in the post-mortem photos.

Official Forensic
Sketch


So, since I have too much time on my hands, I constructed my own.

 

[jumpingbean79]

What happened to submitting Paulette? Did anyone ever do that?

Despite the height differences, I also think Kristy Lynne Booth could be a match (which someone previously mentioned): http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/booth_kristy.html

Just checking if anyone has given these names to LE...

 

[believe09]

One of you vigiliant sleuthers sent this case to me as a possible match for Deborah Ann Quimby of MA....never even occurred to me, but I can see why there was a connection made. Both have DNA available-I am going to check with the case manager on Deb's case to see if the MtDNA has to be compared sample to sample or if it will automatically run...

 

[CarlK90245]

One of you vigiliant sleuthers sent this case to me as a possible match for Deborah Ann Quimby of MA....never even occurred to me, but I can see why there was a connection made.

Interesting possible. She even has what looks like a scar at the end of her right eyebrow to match the description of the UID. The physical descriptors match real well. A few things caught my eye, like the dog-leg corner at the 2/3 point of the left eyebrow, the small chin and the prominent lower lip.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/q/quimby_deborah.html

If this is her, I would wonder what she had been doing for over three years between disappearance and death. What crosses my mind is that this could be similar to the Jaycee Dugard narrative. -- Girl is captured by pedophile, pedophile goes to prison, girl is experiencing Stockholm syndrome and wants to visit captor in prison, pedophile not willing to admit knowing girl for obvious reasons.

The Charley project photo even has her in a yellow shirt (to match the yellow pullover sweater that the UID was observed wearing prior to death).

 

[carbuff]

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Interesting possible. She even has what looks like a scar at the end of her right eyebrow to match the description of the UID. The physical descriptors match real well. A few things caught my eye, like the dog-leg corner at the 2/3 point of the left eyebrow, the small chin and the prominent lower lip.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/q/quimby_deborah.html

If this is her, I would wonder what she had been doing for over three years between disappearance and death. What crosses my mind is that this could be similar to the Jaycee Dugard narrative. -- Girl is captured by pedophile, pedophile goes to prison, girl is experiencing Stockholm syndrome and wants to visit captor in prison, pedophile not willing to admit knowing girl for obvious reasons.

The Charley project photo even has her in a yellow shirt (to match the yellow pullover sweater that the UID was observed wearing prior to death).

Huh, that really is very similar.

LE has always said it was possible she met someone who took her away, so your scenario is not implausible. And everything else seems to fit.

 

[believe09]

For those of you who havent read Deb's thread on WS, I am her cousin. I have checked in with the possibility that she had connections in TX and we are sorting through what we can right now....her mother was recently scammed by a confidence man claiming to be a PI so I am taking it slowly...

P.S. I turned in the possible match to Deb's case manager at the NCMEC-she should be able to tell me if Debs DNA is in CODIS or needs to be run sample to sample...

 

[carbuff]

For those of you who havent read Deb's thread on WS, I am her cousin. I have checked in with the possibility that she had connections in TX and we are sorting through what we can right now....her mother was recently scammed by a confidence man claiming to be a PI so I am taking it slowly...

P.S. I turned in the possible match to Deb's case manager at the NCMEC-she should be able to tell me if Debs DNA is in CODIS or needs to be run sample to sample...

It's so sad that people like that go around preying on the grief of families. My sympathies to you and your family.

 

[believe09]

It's so sad that people like that go around preying on the grief of families. My sympathies to you and your family.

I would love to see a little more done about that particular issue-thank you for the kind words carbuff!

FWIW, for those of you not only looking for your own loved ones but also the loved ones of others, legitimate offers of help never go to the family first. A legitimate organization will go to LE first....and almost never will they ask the family or the community for money. They have their own sponsors or they will accept donations, but they will never go to family and say I can find your loved one for xyz dollars....:furious::banghead::furious:

 

[believe09]

I received word today from NCMEC that the comparison is being done between this Jane Doe and Deborah Ann Quimby...keep an eye on the UID listing in NAMUS for me just in case I miss the rule in/out??? Bless you all...

 

[believe09]

Bumping so I remind myself to check in with NCMEC

 

[believe09]

I didn't think that the official forensic sketch for Walker County Jane Doe looks much like the girl shown in the post-mortem photos.

Official Forensic
Sketch
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So, since I have too much time on my hands, I constructed my own.

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Keeping in mind I have been bouncing in and out of this thread, but your reconstruction DOES look like my cousin...

 

[believe09]

Hey all-I sent an email to the NAMUS case manager to see if he has a list of ruleouts he can post on Jane Doe's page...

 

[mia g]

I didn't think that the official forensic sketch for Walker County Jane Doe looks much like the girl shown in the post-mortem photos.

Official Forensic
Sketch
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So, since I have too much time on my hands, I constructed my own.

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carl may I use the recon you did on the Walker COunty Jane Doe site??

 

[CarlK90245]

carl may I use the recon you did on the Walker COunty Jane Doe site??

Yes, that would be great. Since my previous post, I have put a yellow sweater on her. Here is the revised version.

 

[believe09]

I received a, uh, terse response from the case manager at Identifyus. Here is a copy paste:
"Any exclusions do appear on the Case Information page that comes up when you access a case. For #4640 there are none which is why you don't see any."


Now I thought our Jane Doe was 4630, which was the case number I referenced. I am going to assume the CM fat fingered his response....either that or I am insane.

Mia, you have put an incredible amount of time into this case: I am going to leave it up to you to decide if you want me to contact LE for the list of rule outs (even though the case file IIRC is not readily available) or if you would like to. Because we can go through this thread alone and come up with a couple...or perhaps some are going to have to run again???

 

[believe09]

While we wait, I put this up on City Data:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/texas/870974-port-aransas-rockport-area-late-70s.html#post12514265

It's a call for anyone who lived in the Port Aransas/Rockport area from the late 70's into the early 80's...

 

[believe09]

Mia, is there a photo of the pendant available? It actually helped family ID Tawni Lee Mazzone/Maricopa Jane Doe when the photos of her jewelry were finally released