Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[Springrain]

I am personally a staunch believer in the Kathy theory, and I'm getting pretty antsy. I really wish the right person could just magically see the picture and say "Oh, hey, that's Kathy Whatever. She went to my middle school."

 

[wintermute]

I am personally a staunch believer in the Kathy theory, and I'm getting pretty antsy. I really wish the right person could just magically see the picture and say "Oh, hey, that's Kathy Whatever. She went to my middle school."

I agree! I think Kathy is the closest possibility that I've seen yet. The circumstances line up, and there are so many facial similarities, particularly the eyebrows IMO. Not many people's eyebrows get thicker at the outer edge; usually it's the other way around.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

I agree! I think Kathy is the closest possibility that I've seen yet. The circumstances line up, and there are so many facial similarities, particularly the eyebrows IMO. Not many people's eyebrows get thicker at the outer edge; usually it's the other way around.

Does anyone have a link to a pic of Kathy?

 

[Roselvr]

The information in that blog is incorrect. There were no "items relating to WCJD" found with that photo, and the photo was taken in 1980 (sometime after April), not the mid-70's.

The photo comes from a brother and sister who were staying at a motel in Texas in 1980 (with their mother and step-father). The step father worked on radio antenna towers, and traveled around frequently, and stayed in motels in the course of his occupation. While they were at one motel (their best recollection was that it was in Beeville), they met this girl (possibly named "Cathy"), and for those few days, the sister and "Cathy" became friends and spent a lot of time swimming in the pool together and doing each other's hair. At the time, the brother and sister were 12 and 10 years old, respectively. "Cathy" told them that she was 14 years old, and a runaway from Corpus Christi. She was staying at the motel with a couple, about mid-30's in age.

Both the brother (who lives in Texas) and sister (who lives in Oregon) saw the publicity on WCJD independent of each other, and both immediately thought of "Cathy" without prompting by the other. When the sister came to Texas to visit her brother and mother, he asked if she had seen the articles on WCJD, and she immediately said yes, and that the story and drawings of WCJD reminded her of Cathy. When they asked their mother about Cathy, the mother said yes she also remembered her, and said "I even have a photo of her".

Both siblings remember that "Cathy" wore clothing similar to the clothing description of WCJD, and added that she didn't seem to have very many clothes.

There are a few other details provided by the brother that tie in even more to WCJD's narrative, but the sister says that she doesn't remember those details, so I haven't put those details out for discussion.

Here are a few more details regarding "Cathy" that I should probably add to the mix.

According to the brother (the sister doesn't remember this detail), "Cathy" told him that she had a friend who was incarcerated in the Sugarland Prison, and at one point, asked his step-father if he would give her a ride to Sugarland. Apparently, the stepfather didn't give her the ride. The stepfather drove a 1978 Ford Truck with a camper on it. However, the brother says he recalls that the couple drove a large American car, possibly a chevy, possibly maroon or brown in color. He recalls that it had a beige or white vinyl top.

Of course, if this is true, it would make "Cathy" a very strong possible for WCJD, despite that her friend was in the Sugarland prison, not at Ellis, and that the couple's vehicle was maroon or brown (as opposed to blue - as was reported to the WCSD by the owner of the gas station who saw WCJD prior to her death).

When he first told me this story, he was saying that the motel was in Richmond, and he even drew for me a diagram of the layout of the motel. There are no motels in Richmond, and after many hours searching Google maps for of the motels throughout the area, he came back to me and said that he thinks that the motel was actually in Beeville. He pointed me to the Esquire Inn on St. Mary's street in Beeville, and said that he is pretty sure that is the same motel. The sister agreed that this appeared to be the same motel, and its layout is very similar to the drawing that the brother gave me.

I've been reluctant to mention these details (1) because I wasn't sure if the brother was just repeating details that he had read in public narratives related to WCJD, and (2) his sister couldn't corroborate those details. The sister was only 10 years old at the time, so it is understandible that she wouldn't remember every detail about the few days that they knew "Cathy". But I've decided to go ahead and put it out there and let everyone decide for themselves whether it is credible or not.

 

[anonymess]

Thank you for recapping. I sure wish her necklace had fallen a bit more to the left in that photo; we would have another identifier.

 

[Alleykins]

I still think WCJD is Mary Day. I wish there was more information and better pictures of her.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2990dfca.html

 

[Roselvr]

I still think WCJD is Mary Day. I wish there was more information and better pictures of her.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2990dfca.html

Turn her in to get the rule in/out, she has DNA in NamUs

Thank you for recapping. I sure wish her necklace had fallen a bit more to the left in that photo; we would have another identifier.

Welcome. It was just a matter of using the search. I knew what I was looking for

 

[taramarie]

I always go back to Mary Day, too....

 

[Springrain]

I always go back to Mary Day, too....

I submitted her in Nov 15, no response

 

[Alleykins]

I submitted her in Nov 15, no response

I emailed the medical examiner's office about her on 04/21/2016, this is what I wrote:
"I apologize if this is a repeat for you, I did not see Mary's name on the rule out list in NamUs. If it turns out not to be Mary, can we please have a rule out in NamUs? This will save everyone a headache."
I tried!

 

[Alleykins]

I submitted her in Nov 15, no response

On another message board they were discussing Mary and how they got nowhere with the local PD when asking for more information. They were given the brush off. Their discussion didn't appear to be in regards to matching her up a particular UP. One person stated they were going to visit them to see if they could shed some more light on her case, but there was no follow up at all.

 

[Roselvr]

I submitted her in Nov 15, no response

To who? Nance? Try going to Mary's contact.

I emailed the medical examiner's office about her on 04/21/2016, this is what I wrote:
"I apologize if this is a repeat for you, I did not see Mary's name on the rule out list in NamUs. If it turns out not to be Mary, can we please have a rule out in NamUs? This will save everyone a headache."
I tried!

Did you give the ME her last name and case number?

 

[sloane7777]

wow just catching up , did they do an isotope on this girl? does anyone know Mary was from CA. right, Mary Day never occurred to me!

 

[Alleykins]

Did you give the ME her last name and case number?

Yes to both. What I posted in the thread was just the closing, LOL

 

[BayouGypsy]

I feel like we are so close to finding her name. We need a good Medium or something!

 

[U2forever]

I still think WCJD is Mary Day. I wish there was more information and better pictures of her.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2990dfca.html

Oh wow, I pray it's Mary Day. I remember seeing her pics.
Great job & hard work has to pay off...


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[carbuff]

Tammy Akers?

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/1783/1
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/akers_tammy.html

I can't find that we've ever even mentioned her for WCJD. She ought to be a DNA ruleout by default. Discrepancy on eye color, hazel versus blue. She'd have been a bit over 17 when WCJD died. Height 5'4" versus 5'6" but that's in range, and at 14 when she ran away, Tammy could have grown a bit.

Graphic Warning, I used the postmortem photo for the side by side.

 

[zelda_s]

I don't think they look so much alike- WCJD's nose is quite different.

 

[paul1980]

If you look at the roundness of WCJD's face and the youthfulness of her features, It's obvious that she was early teens, not late teens.

 

[Slow cheetah]

Hello, I am new here.
One thing that keeps bothering me about this case. The bite mark, on her shoulder....supposivelt was checked against Henry Lee Lucas since he was a suspect. However....wasn't that man pretty close with another depraved killer....Ottis Toole? I wonder if the note mark was compared to his.
I am surprised there was no mention as to whether the bite mark looked as if it came from,a small petite or a large and wide mouth?