Identified! TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 Sherry Ann Jarvis

[zelda_s]

Hello, I am new here.
One thing that keeps bothering me about this case. The bite mark, on her shoulder....supposivelt was checked against Henry Lee Lucas since he was a suspect. However....wasn't that man pretty close with another depraved killer....Ottis Toole? I wonder if the note mark was compared to his.
I am surprised there was no mention as to whether the bite mark looked as if it came from,a small petite or a large and wide mouth?

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Yes, I believe Toole and Lucas travelled together and possibly murdered together. Toole might have done this, but I don't know much about his MO. It's hard to say. But yes, the bite mark I think could be really useful.

 

[BayouGypsy]

As for the bite mark, I mentioned Robert Autry, a few pages back, James Autry's brother who was in Ellis at the time WCJD was murdered. The boys were said to have been in and out of youth homes or from a really rough home. (I forgot where I read this, I will have to look to see if I can find the article.) Anyway, one of my theories was that WCJD was with Robert on his way to visit his brother and he asked her to get directions to the prison, maybe he said he would swing back to pick her up? Something happened, he killed her, told his brother what he did and when the LE went around the prison asking if anyone knew her, James lied to keep his brother out of trouble. Robert ended up killing an older woman a few years later. He strangled her and bit her, I believe it was on the back of her shoulder, as well. (Not 100% sure of where he bit her.) I would really like to know if there is anyway to find out what kind of vehicle the Autry's had access to and if Robert's name was on the visitors list around the time of her murder. I often wonder if WCJD was from the same area the Autry boys were from? Like I said, it's just a theory that I have and often think about.

 

[Kimm11]

As for the bite mark, I mentioned Robert Autry, a few pages back, James Autry's brother who was in Ellis at the time WCJD was murdered. The boys were said to have been in and out of youth homes or from a really rough home. (I forgot where I read this, I will have to look to see if I can find the article.) Anyway, one of my theories was that WCJD was with Robert on his way to visit his brother and he asked her to get directions to the prison, maybe he said he would swing back to pick her up? Something happened, he killed her, told his brother what he did and when the LE went around the prison asking if anyone knew her, James lied to keep his brother out of trouble. Robert ended up killing an older woman a few years later. He strangled her and bit her, I believe it was on the back of her shoulder, as well. (Not 100% sure of where he bit her.) I would really like to know if there is anyway to find out what kind of vehicle the Autry's had access to and if Robert's name was on the visitors list around the time of her murder. I often wonder if WCJD was from the same area the Autry boys were from? Like I said, it's just a theory that I have and often think about.

I read that james killed a women at a convinience store on April 1980 I wonder where he got sent to jail. "Kathy" was going to visit a friend in jail around that time

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[rainwater]

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_info/autryjames.html

Mug shot of James David Autry as he looked in 1980 as a Texas DOC death row inmate. A little bit of biographical info-he never went beyond the sixth grade. Executed by lethal injection in Texas in 1984.

 

[Kimm11]

I'm not very familiar with some of the rule outs, has Karen Beth Kamsch been ruled out?

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[cvaldez1975]

mods, should we start a thread 2? its way over 1000. thanks for all you do!

 

[Alleykins]

I'm not very familiar with some of the rule outs, has Karen Beth Kamsch been ruled out?
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Yes, Karen has been ruled out.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4790

 

[Nikki_sc85]

This is the correct namus, I believe and I do not see Karen Beth Kamsch listed as a rule out. Let me know if I'm incorrect, please.

https://identifyus.org/cases/4630


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[Kimm11]

This is the correct namus, I believe and I do not see Karen Beth Kamsch listed as a rule out. Let me know if I'm incorrect, please.

https://identifyus.org/cases/4630


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I was just checking namus and I don't see her as a rule out either.

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[Alleykins]

My apologies, I believe I posted the link for BG instead of WCJD.

 

[carbuff]

Oops info already posted

 

[Roselvr]

mods, should we start a thread 2? its way over 1000. thanks for all you do!

I vote no. You lose so much info and being able to quote it when you make a new thread

 

[Alleykins]

I like one thread. I can't tell you how many closed threads I've clicked on as a Newbie just to hunt down the live thread.

 

[U2forever]

This is the correct namus, I believe and I do not see Karen Beth Kamsch listed as a rule out. Let me know if I'm incorrect, please.

https://identifyus.org/cases/4630


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Wow!


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[Roselvr]

I like one thread. I can't tell you how many closed threads I've clicked on as a Newbie just to hunt down the live thread.

Agree with you. Normally current MP threads are like that. Ones like missing 2 year old DeOrr Kunz move very quick. You can go on vacation during thread 10 to come back a week later to 10 more locked ones.

Lyle Stevik had gotten a new thread at a bad time, there were a lot of important posts that weren't brought over.

I sort mine 100 posts per page, I use WS mobile version on my blackberry, it loads pretty quick. Sorting it that way makes it seem like its not a huge thread.

 

[Houston Mom]

While looking for Karen Kamsch I ran across Karen Reinert. Boy does she look like WC Jane! She was 11 when she went missing in 1979. Her height and weight are way off, but since her Mom was deceased they could be questionable. Some girls have a growth spurt around puberty, don't they? Anyway, have a look, and, by the way No DNA on file.



https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9414/29?current_page=dna

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reinert_karen.html

 

[cvaldez1975]

that does make sense.

I vote no. You lose so much info and being able to quote it when you make a new thread

 

[Nikki_sc85]

Yes, Karen has been ruled out.
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4790

No problem I am amazed by how many exclusions BH has. It seems like there are very few in WCJD. At least few listed.


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[Onfortuneswheel]

While looking for Karen Kamsch I ran across Karen Reinert. Boy does she look like WC Jane! She was 11 when she went missing in 1979. Her height and weight are way off, but since her Mom was deceased they could be questionable. Some girls have a growth spurt around puberty, don't they? Anyway, have a look, and, by the way No DNA on file.



https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9414/29?current_page=dna

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reinert_karen.html

It would defy Occam's Razor if WCJD was Karen Reinert. If the Reinert children's bodies are found, it will most likely be in the PA/NJ area (high probability of the New Jersey shore area).

 

[Alleykins]

It would defy Occam's Razor if WCJD was Karen Reinert. If the Reinert children's bodies are found, it will most likely be in the PA/NJ area (high probability of the New Jersey shore area).

The Reinert case is just plain sad, that poor woman and her children.