TX - Investigators Searching for Girl in 'Ecstasy' Video

[LovingTheChaos]

I do believe things are getting worse. Kids are getting molested more and more everyday. It used to be something that didn't happen to many kids, now it is so common that you expect everyone you meet has been violated in some way.
I disagree and believe the world and all the sickos are spinning out of control.
I am sorry you went through what you did. I was too molested as a child and nothing was done by the courts and claimed it to be innocent - I was 6 and molested by a 15 year old. Haunts me to this day.
Sexual predators these days are treated well, they face little jail time and all they get is a name badge "Hi, my name is Chester molester". We know where they are, but there are few ways to stop them.
Media is in business because of the overwhelming violence, we wouldn't see so much if there wasn't so much. Media has been around for ages.

Dena, I am sorry for what happened to you. As for it being worse then or now, I am afraid that the stats are in my favor. What has changed is 24 hour news. In the 80's & before that, there was 1/2 hour of national news & 1/2 hour local news in the evening. You did not hear about the kid in Nebraska getting kidnapped & murdered if you lived in Iowa,. Not to mention the fact that child molesters were rarely prosecuted back then. The man that molested me is not on the registry, & there is nothing I can do about it now.
I just hate the thought that we are all walking around scared of our own shadows because that is what the media is feeding off of. It is not worse now, it just isn't. Bad things do happen, but evil has always been with us.

 

[CarpeDiem]

Dena, I am sorry for what happened to you. As for it being worse then or now, I am afraid that the stats are in my favor. What has changed is 24 hour news. In the 80's & before that, there was 1/2 hour of national news & 1/2 hour local news in the evening. You did not hear about the kid in Nebraska getting kidnapped & murdered if you lived in Iowa,. Not to mention the fact that child molesters were rarely prosecuted back then. The man that molested me is not on the registry, & there is nothing I can do about it now.
I just hate the thought that we are all walking around scared of our own shadows because that is what the media is feeding off of. It is not worse now, it just isn't. Bad things do happen, but evil has always been with us.

I see your points, but children weren't being given hits of x, or shot full of cocaine, or abused by the person Mom or Dad or they met on the internet, not so long ago.

ETA, sometimes it seems like the perps try and one up eachother. even from a generation before, commit a more horrid, sick act, than another has. To prove their "bad". And take pics, video and publish the acts to brag and relive it.

 

[JBean]

Dena, I am sorry for what happened to you. As for it being worse then or now, I am afraid that the stats are in my favor. What has changed is 24 hour news. In the 80's & before that, there was 1/2 hour of national news & 1/2 hour local news in the evening. You did not hear about the kid in Nebraska getting kidnapped & murdered if you lived in Iowa,. Not to mention the fact that child molesters were rarely prosecuted back then. The man that molested me is not on the registry, & there is nothing I can do about it now.
I just hate the thought that we are all walking around scared of our own shadows because that is what the media is feeding off of. It is not worse now, it just isn't. Bad things do happen, but evil has always been with us.

I totally agree with this. I do not think things are necessarily getting worse. As a matter of fact, it seems that many of the people right here on this board in their 20's through 60's were victims of some sort of child
abuse or molestation. I think 24 hour news and the internet is absoultely the differnce.
JMHO od course.

 

[LovingTheChaos]

I see your points, but children weren't being given hits of x, or shot full of cocaine, or abused by the person Mom or Dad or they met on the internet, not so long ago.

ETA, sometimes it seems like the perps try and one up eachother. even from a generation before, commit a more horrid, sick act, than another has. To prove their "bad". And take pics, video and publish the acts to brag and relive it.

Well, no one gave me X, but my mother did teach me to take a joint & hand it to the next person in the group. I would say "want a toke?". They all thought it was hilarious. I am 37 now, this would have been in 1971. Of course, no one video taped it, or put it on You Tube.
ETA - No, back in those days, you met the molester at the local bar. Mom met her second husband at a bar, married him less than a month after knowing him, & moved us all in together. He was addicted to , & what do you know - he was a child molester to boot.

 

[KansasCutie]

As a mother, I want to ask you a favor. The next time you are with someone who is going to do a drug for the first time - please tell them it's not a good idea. It just might be my kid, and is definitely someone else's kid. Thanks!

Ohh trust me i do. Im always the one that worries about my friends and try my hardest to convince them to not do it, but no one listens to me!

 

[dufresnecw]

This whole situation is sad. This is a link to the video that shows them running away when they are trying to get questioned.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f4_1184196758

I bet you they weren't thinking about getting in trouble when they were doing it.

 

[hipmamajen]

This whole situation is sad. This is a link to the video that shows them running away when they are trying to get questioned.

It doesn't look like they put the 2 year old in a car seat this time, either. What's it going to take?

 

[s_finch]

I'm not going to watch the video. Lots of gory, sick stuff I can stomach (worked on a rescue squad for a while) but not when it comes to kids. I read the article today about the little boy who was starved to death and it made me so angry I wanted to be the one to take vengence on his "care givers"---and then I realize I'm sinking to their level in a way because I'm not on a jury so it's not my place to decide judgement. I'm wanting vigilante justice which is usually wrong in my opinion, but yet I would feel justified in doing it to these people. Some of the sick things that are done to kids could really drive me over the edge. God help the person who ever molests/hurts one my kids.

I can't imagine how great God is that He can still love those who harm children, or even forgive them when they truly repent.

 

[CarpeDiem]

Ohh trust me i do. Im always the one that worries about my friends and try my hardest to convince them to not do it, but no one listens to me!

Ahh Kansas, we know you're a good girl, , well most of the time, LOL! :woohoo: Stay so far away from that hard core stuff though and the guy's that use it. Often, actions speak louder than words with your age group too - when they see someone like you that doesn't need the chit to be Cool and HOT at the same time, perhaps even one other won't go that route either. :blowkiss:

 

[KansasCutie]

haha of course im a good girl.

I know i learned my lesson! I dated a guy in highschool who used cocaine to party & i now know that i will never involve myself with someone who abuses hardcore drugs. I just wish all my friends would LISTEN TO ME!

 

[Jaded]

It doesn't look like they put the 2 year old in a car seat this time, either. What's it going to take?

I noticed that, too. WHY isn't that child in a seat AGAIN?

 

[Dena]

Dena, I am sorry for what happened to you. As for it being worse then or now, I am afraid that the stats are in my favor. What has changed is 24 hour news. In the 80's & before that, there was 1/2 hour of national news & 1/2 hour local news in the evening. You did not hear about the kid in Nebraska getting kidnapped & murdered if you lived in Iowa,. Not to mention the fact that child molesters were rarely prosecuted back then. The man that molested me is not on the registry, & there is nothing I can do about it now.
I just hate the thought that we are all walking around scared of our own shadows because that is what the media is feeding off of. It is not worse now, it just isn't. Bad things do happen, but evil has always been with us.

I am always amazed at stats lately. One this morning stated that teen pregnancy is down, less kids having sex... that was a shocker to me.
I feel like too many bad guys are getting off with a slap on the wrist, and things are going to get worse until they actually have some sort of liability for their actions. It isn't even the first offenders I am talking about. Because if someone is dead set on murder, rape, kidnapping, whatever, they probably won't think too hard about the consequences. But it's letting these people go free to do it to another child, it shouldn't happen. Pathetic monsters who prey on children should be put away forever.
I see how the media can play into it, and I see the stats, but as a mother, I will be far more overprotective of my son than my parents ever were of me. (and I thought they were bad.)
I also wonder if the stats are down because so many parents are keeping their kids inside. So many people say that they were able to let their kids out by themselves and nothing would happen, but if the stats are right, things DID happen back then.
I always wonder if stats are government propaganda and who is creating these. Because I can tell you with 100% honesty, I don't care what the stats say, I worry about my son everyday and it's only going to get worse the older he gets.
We talk all the time that a mother shouldn't have done this or that - ride the tram alone, walk down the street alone, play in the yard alone, etc, etc. Shoot even (and I don't agree) but go to dinner and not worry about your children. But things are supposed to be safe now right? How much safer are they? Are we talking 10,000 child murders now compared to 15,000 20 years ago? Either way you slice it, it doesn't look good, that's a lot. Maybe people are having less children to get killed and kidnapped or abused. I will be the first to admit that this evil world scares me and I do think of all the horrible things that could possibly happen to my child.
Hope that makes sense. JMO.

 

[Jesstexas]

In that new video clip, somebody from LE is saying that there just isn't any evidence to prove that the child was exposed to a drug. The others in the van at the time are claiming that the little girl will do anything you tell her to, that's why she was rolling her eyes so far back in her head that it was scary just to watch.

Why don't LE have those girls tell the baby to do the same thing again, in LE's presence? If the only reason she did it then is because she was told to, make her do it again. She won't . . . because she can't because she was drugged! :banghead:

 

[White Rain]

I have never seen a child that could roll their eyes back into their head like that, especially for the amt of time this child did that...I know I, a 28 yr old, can't even do it.
IMO, this kid had been drugged w/ something...maybe X, I don't know, I am a former speed addict myself but never had any experience with X, reffered to as "rolls" around here...Now I see why they call it that...
I do believe this child was on SOMETHING...and am disheartened to see how no charges are so far being filed...I may have been a drug addict but there were NEVER any kids (even teens) or kids being involved here....I may not have had 100% standards, but I had a good bit....
this videotape showed something outside the norm...any addict/former addict could recognize that....these kids knew the terms (rolling) etc...and the kind of actions that might occur from doing X...

 

[White Rain]

In that new video clip, somebody from LE is saying that there just isn't any evidence to prove that the child was exposed to a drug. The others in the van at the time are claiming that the little girl will do anything you tell her to, that's why she was rolling her eyes so far back in her head that it was scary just to watch.

Why don't LE have those girls tell the baby to do the same thing again, in LE's presence? If the only reason she did it then is because she was told to, make her do it again. She won't . . . because she can't because she was drugged! :banghead:

And also why don't those same girls exhibit the SAME symptoms under circumstances....I dare a single one of them to roll their eyes back in their heads like that, PLUS for the same amt of time....not possible, especially by a child, imo...

 

[newkid]

http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/ecstasy.asp

Snopes is saying the girl wasn't drugged and that drug tests are coming up clean.

I did have a couple of friends who could roll their eyes back like that, and did it on a regular basis as they enjoyed the shock factor. I could never make my eyes do that, but I do other things other people can't like put both legs behind my head like a pretzel. Sounds like it was bad judgement on their part, thinking the video was funny.

 

[christine2448]

I totally agree with this. I do not think things are necessarily getting worse. As a matter of fact, it seems that many of the people right here on this board in their 20's through 60's were victims of some sort of child
abuse or molestation. I think 24 hour news and the internet is absoultely the differnce.
JMHO od course.

I agree, FWIW. I think the molestations/incest may have been even worse back in the days becuase of the lack of 'talk' about it. I think today we are just 'exposed' to more.

One things is for sure, I have mentioned this more than once recently in the few weeks, this Earth is surely the devil's playground and his minions are certianly working harder and harder, each day, to destroy all that is good.

 

[southcitymom]

I agree that the stories posted here are horrendous, but I do not believe things are getting worse. What is happening now is we are exposed to nationwide news 24-7. Only the most horrendous acts capture the national spotlight, & then they get posted at WS.
Honestly, I have been reading here since the Natalee Holloway days, & every now & then I have to take a break & leave the news & WS out of my daily routine. It can make you feel the world is a very dark place. Statistically, violent crime is lower today that in was 20 or 30 years ago, cities are safer, & the chances of becoming a victim are much lower.
I would have much rather been a child growing up today, than in the 70's when I grew up. I was molested, & half of the adults who knew acted as if it did not matter, or as if it did not happen. If this was today the that hurt me would be in jail & punished for the rest of his life as a sex offender.
When I start to feel like the world is surley coming to an end, I turn off the news - stay off the internet, & take a walk in the sun in my neighborhood.:blowkiss:

Great post, LovingtheChaos. I actually believe the world is getting better and better and that makes my heart very happy. :dance:

I have a good bit of experience with X - it was legal when I first used it - you could actually go into bars and charge it on your credit card!

I have no idea if this little girl was given X or not. I tend to doubt it based on what I saw on the video. But that doesn't dispel the fact that she is being poorly cared for - my prayers go out to her and her family.

I would think the only thing anyone could be charged for is not having her in a proper child seat. Being crass and tacky is not a crime and I didn't think the pinching looked hostile or painful - just playful. The child didn't seem to be in distress and the eye-rolling seemed to be a game, IMHO.