TX TX - Jason Landry, 21, en route from TSU to home, car found crashed at Luling, 14 Dec 2020

[Mary Ingalls]

Honestly, even the fact that the picture used on his poster in the beginning is quite an older look for him is a sign to me. How hard was it for family to come up with a picture of him with longer hair and a goatee? How long ago had they seen him? His change in appearance can also be a clue to a change in behavior. MOO.
His picture on his Facebook in September looks quite different than the image on his missing poster. I just don’t think everything was ok in his world. And by the way, this is an iPhone 11 I believe. I have it. Facial recognition to open.

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I thought the same thing about the family coming up with a recent picture and the comment that he MAY have a goatee and longer hair. Wouldn't they be able to check with one of his friends if they hadn't seen him recently to ask whether or not he had a goatee? I also thought his dads comment today on the FB post was weird.. that he and his wife are getting back to their work responsibilities and praying.

 

[renarde]

This happened at Texas State right around Thanksgiving... also a weird story. San Marcos is a small college town. Drug deal gone wrong, and their football player (also a sophomore from the Houston area) died:

Family of Texas State football player shot and killed speaks out for the first time

 

[Spartygirl]

Was he meeting someone up Salt Flat Rd to get the narcotics, but why would he do that on his way home?
Or, was he to meet someone to pass off the narcotics?
Or was he even in the car when it went up Salt Flat Rd.?

This is now what I am wondering also

 

[Mary Ingalls]

You're not a weirdo. You're a caring parent. I am retired (so definitely not 21!!) and when I leave for my parents house hours away, I had to call before I left, and call as soon as I got back home. That way my mother would know I'm OK and not send the posse out to find me. lol

I also have to email her every single morning before 10am saying anything. The word 'Morning' is fine, I don't even need to say Good morning. She wants to know that I'm alive. She will send someone out to check on me if she can't then reach me by phone after not checking in by 10am. Drives me crazy but I get why she does it. She does the same (emails before 10am) so I'll know she's OK too.

Thanks for that! I don't expect to know their every move, but I just want to know they are safe. I just remembered another missing person from Orlando, Jennifer Kesse and what a huge fuss her parents made hours after she went missing. They went on a media blitz and to this day, they haven't found her, but her parents are still very vocal and on Dateline and 48 Hours.

 

[lcampbellec]

Hi all! Don’t know a ton about search dogs, and maybe this has been discussed, but as someone who travels thru Luling frequently, the sulphuric smell of oil is STRONG, even for a human. And if the dogs have a stronger sense of smell than humans, maybe it’s possible they can’t track properly with the oil smell that hangs heavy there?

 

[Spartygirl]

My take from the broadcast at 6 PM:

Reporter Marin Austin (of Fox 7 - Austin) reported Texas Department of Public Services (DPS) reported narcotics found 100 feet from the JL's wrecked vehicle on 12/13/20 (image of a police report in the background).

Marin also reported the keys were in the ignition, and the car doors locked.

It was not clear if she was reading from the police report image but I assume she was and/or obtained the info from the same report.

MOO

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ETA: IMO, I believe the "narcotic" info is probably being reported today after the News Reporter filed FOIA for the actual 12/13 report by DPS.

BBM--- doors locked, keys in ignition??
I could see keys being in the ignition, but IF he was going to lock the doors, then he would take the keys, IMO

 

[Mary Ingalls]

This happened at Texas State right around Thanksgiving... also a weird story. San Marcos is a small college town. Drug deal gone wrong, and their football player (also a sophomore from the Houston area) died:

Family of Texas State football player shot and killed speaks out for the first time

Interesting for sure. It says they are still looking for 2 other suspects. So sad.

 

[Mary Ingalls]

Hi all! Don’t know a ton about search dogs, and maybe this has been discussed, but as someone who travels thru Luling frequently, the sulphuric smell of oil is STRONG, even for a human. And if the dogs have a stronger sense of smell than humans, maybe it’s possible they can’t track properly with the oil smell that hangs heavy there?

Good point. I remember the first time I went through Lulling. Its pretty remarkable

 

[Seattle1]

My daughter has the same iPhone. It is setup with facial recognition but has a key pin as a safety.

Yes -- It's been reported that his phone is now with Caldwell County Sheriff's office and that the phone is indeed locked with a 6 digit code.

TX - TX - Jason Landry, 21, en route from TSU to home, car found crashed at Luling, 14 Dec 2020

 

[Gemmie]

I could see keys being in the ignition, but IF he was going to lock the doors, then he would take the keys, IMO

Only if he was thinking clearly. I sure wasn't the time I rolled my car. I 'saved' 1 shoe I found in the accident like 1 shoe was ever going to do me any good.

So... ya never know in these sorts of situations. People don't always think clearly after getting in an accident. A surge of adrenaline and getting bounced around a car can do strange things to a person's thinking ability.

 

[lcampbellec]

Good point. I remember the first time I went through Lulling. Its pretty remarkable

This article was written a year ago around this time.

“If we've had a cool night with an inversion, it kind of traps all that down in Luling and then you get a quick south wind in the morning that picks it up and brings it across the city,” AFD Division Chief Thayer Smith said.”



Gas smell leads to dozens of calls to Austin Fire Department | kvue.com

 

[Spartygirl]

Oh, Texas....we should talk. If I called weed a narcotic in Detroit, I’d be laughed at! But “technically” on a federal (and some states) level it’s true. There are DEA schedule classes as well.

If it was drugs, no matter what form of narcotic, would you really stock up BEFORE going home for the holidays? Was he maybe selling the drugs to fund Christmas? So many unknowns at this early stage.

Same-- I am in Michigan and we would not call weed a narcotic.
Now, on the premise of stocking up to go home for the holidays, yes...I can see a college student doing that, if for personal use.
Depends on how much was found, if personal use or selling, etc.
this is a game changer, IMO

 

[Spartygirl]

Covid only increases the isolation right now. Most classes online so not much interaction with peers. I still keep going back to how his family and friends are radio silence. Doesn't it seem like they would be doing interviews, begging for leads etc? I think back to all of these other missing person cases, Lacy Peterson, Kristin Smart, Maekenzie Lueck, Kaylee Sawyer. Their family and friends were all over the news. If the parents aren't up to doing interviews, he has two older siblings that could speak on behalf of the family. This is so weird, sad and confusing.

Well,, on the flip side, we have Alexis Sharkey's friends who are all over SM and talking and people are criticizing them for not shutting up.
damned if you do, damned if you don't. I guess.
everyone handles situations differently.

 

[A2FMNST]

Yes -- It's been reported that his phone is now with Caldwell County Sheriff's office and that the phone is indeed locked with a 6 digit code.

TX - TX - Jason Landry, 21, en route from TSU to home, car found crashed at Luling, 14 Dec 2020

With the software available to LEO’s, cracking this 6 digit passcode would take a matter of hours.

ETA About 11 hours on average. They must have cracked this 6 digit code by now or they are waiting on State LEO who may have the graykey software.

 

[Seattle1]

Seems Nissan Altima blogs are full of posts about doors that lock with or without assistance: seems that finding the car doors locked while the keys in the ignition may have to do with an independent issue other than JL-- including that the trunk (boot) door was open/detached, or the driver's door damaged!

Locks Keep Lockin Themselves!!!

 

[Ursamajr]

I wonder if Jason wandered away from the car to hitchhike. He could have locked his stuff in the car by accident and that was the option he went with. If that happened there is a possibility it didn't go well.

 

[kittythehare]

Honestly, even the fact that the picture used on his poster in the beginning is quite an older look for him is a sign to me. How hard was it for family to come up with a picture of him with longer hair and a goatee? How long ago had they seen him? His change in appearance can also be a clue to a change in behavior. MOO.
His picture on his Facebook in September looks quite different than the image on his missing poster. I just don’t think everything was ok in his world. And by the way, this is an iPhone 11 I believe. I have it. Facial recognition to open.

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They saw eachother at Thanksgiving.
If he is missing he could grow a beard while alive and without facilities.
They are not searching for a facial recognition opening tool, they are searching for a 6 digit coded key.
Nearly a week after his disappearance, search for missing Texas State student continues

 

[Spartygirl]

You're not a weirdo. You're a caring parent. I am retired (so definitely not 21!!) and when I leave for my parents house hours away, I had to call before I left, and call as soon as I got back home. That way my mother would know I'm OK and not send the posse out to find me. lol

I also have to email her every single morning before 10am saying anything. The word 'Morning' is fine, I don't even need to say Good morning. She wants to know that I'm alive. She will send someone out to check on me if she can't then reach me by phone after not checking in by 10am. Drives me crazy but I get why she does it. She does the same (emails before 10am) so I'll know she's OK too.

My girls are in early 30's and always text me when they leave to head this way, and when they get home.
my oldest, today, text that she made it to kalamazoo. LOL
I was like, what are you doing in Kzoo ??
she is staying with a friend who just had surgery for a few days and we didnt even know she was planning this
but she sent her dad and I a text letting us know she made it there safely, out of habit.

 

[kittythehare]

A vehicle crash or abandoned vehicle report is not the same as a criminal investigation report.

This case is actually two investigations: Crash report being investigated by DPS, and missing person investigation by Caldwell County Sheriff's office.

I don't know about TX but crash reports are public record in WA.

If the police crash report was filed on Dec 13, I don't think obtaining the report on Dec 29 too early to receive this information. MOO

By investigation I meant a missing person's investigation.
So there is that, there is the crash investigation and there is the SAR, three streams ongoing..

 

[Seattle1]

With the software available to LEO’s, cracking this 6 digit passcode would take a matter of hours.

ETA About 11 hours on average. They must have cracked this 6 digit code by now or they are waiting on State LEO who may have the graykey software.

Cellbrite has long been one of my favorite forensic tools but many of these tools now have a bigger problem blocking their use i.e., the Fourth and Fifth Amendments. And rulings, unfortunately, are not consistent from state to state.

It’s easier than ever for police to get your phone data