TX TX - Jason Landry, 21, enroute from TSU to home, car found crashed at Luling, 14 Dec 2020 #2

[Ebony526]

Adrienne's case.. happened right where my daughter lives.
So sad that happened to her.
I do wonder if Jason all of a sudden got paranoid that maybe someone was following him which made him turn down a dark, deserted road.
Regardless, he is still missing and the circumstances are strange.
Praying for his family that he is found soon.

Adrienne’s case is so sad. JL wouldn’t really have to turn to get to Salt Flat Road....if he kept on going straight which he did for whatever reason it turned into Salt Flat Road...just so strange....Jason, where are you?

 

[dmac55]

I have just now tried to find it again and I can't. It was only a line and said that the friend lived in Sienna Plantation. So I had looked it up on Google Maps and found it to be a little south of Missouri City, where his parents lived. I thought at the time that perhaps he was bringing a friend home with him and since they would be late he would stay the night. Also, thought that is why his parents hadn't waited up for him.. I will keep looking.

This article doesn't mention a friend, but it does give his destination as Sienna Plantation

"Twenty-one-year-old Jason Landry is a Houston-native and Texas State student that family said went missing while en route to Sienna."

Prayer vigil planned for Texas State student Jason Landry who was reported missing | abc13.com
Officials drain pond in search of Texas State student reported missing

 

[allboys]

Possible he didn't know it was a dead end/desolate? After all he was so unfamiliar with the route he used Waze?

We don’t know that he was using Waze. His dad just indicated that he was an often user of Waze. But I agree that he wouldn’t necessarily know the route he was on would become as desolate as it did.

 

[allboys]

I'll do that today, but I can tell you that even if Waze/JL missed the turn most people would take to get to I-10, it would have re-routed him about 15 times before he got to the accident site. I just don't think it's feasible. I don't think anybody, following Waze or not, that has probably traveled this route many times (college junior, probably drives home multiple times a year) would miss that turn...ever. It's too distinctive. It's the intersection at a large highway, well-lit gas station just off the corner and coming from San Marcos, it would be the first traffic light he would have come to for approximately the last 10-15 miles. I'll post later with what happens when I approach that intersection using Waze with destination set for Sienna Plantation and I will intentionally miss the turn and see what happens.

THANK YOU for doing this!! And for all of your insight. Local input is invaluable here at WS.

 

[Gemmie]

I do wonder if Jason all of a sudden got paranoid that maybe someone was following him which made him turn down a dark, deserted road.

Going down a dark deserted road would be the last thing I'd think anyone would do. You want to be in as well lit of an area as you can, with as many people around as possible. Even if there's not a lot of folks on the main highway at that hour, going down a dark graveled side street isn't in your best interest to do. All MOO, of course.

 

[SimplyCass]

We don’t know that he was using Waze. His dad just indicated that he was an often user of Waze. But I agree that he wouldn’t necessarily know the route he was on would become as desolate as it did.

as much I've criticized Waze, I do not think it led Jason down this road. The car was found 7-8 miles from where he should have turned off and the locals here have said there is no shortcut or long cut or any way SFR could have been used as a way to get to his destination.

that said, MOO and speculation, as there is little new information out there.

 

[renarde]

KPRC2 Jacob Rascon

Well here a reporter says it was a fireman. All the other articles just say a resident or passerby.

"A gravel road northeast of Luling is where his wrecked car was found the following Monday.

It was spotted, reportedly, by a local first responder who was returning from an unrelated call."

Search continues in Caldwell County for missing Texas State student

 

[Lulingresident6]

Okay, so I was a little off when I said Waze would re-route someone 15 times between the missed turn on 183 and the accident site. I drove it this evening (with Sienna Plantation as my destination) and after I crossed 183, Waze told me to turn on 5 different streets to get back to my route before I left the small residential area just east of 183. It then told me to turn on Derrick Road (once I hit the gravel SFR), which would have taken me to 86 and then back to 183. It then told me to turn around in an oil patch entrance. It then told me to turn left on Soda Springs Road to go back to 86 to 183. It then told me to turn left on Pumper Road to go back to 86 to 183. It was only after I passed Pumper Road (which is not all that far from the accident scene) that it told me to continue down SFR for 2 miles (way past accident site) to 1322 to 86 to 183. I just don't think there's any way he was following Waze. I know it's hard for most of you to picture this, but basically he was driving on a 2 lane highway from San Marcos with houses, gas stations, business, etc. along the way. Once he got to 183 in Luling, the only real way to get to I-10 is to turn right on 183. Once he crossed 183, he would have briefly been in a small residential area and then that road very quickly turns to pastures, oil patches, etc. with no businesses and very few houses. If he wasn't somehow incapacitated, there is no way he could have thought he was going the right way. Anyway, hope that helps.

 

[Lulingresident6]

THANK YOU for doing this!! And for all of your insight. Local input is invaluable here at WS.

Happy to help. Wish I had more information.

 

[Ebony526]

Okay, so I was a little off when I said Waze would re-route someone 15 times between the missed turn on 183 and the accident site. I drove it this evening (with Sienna Plantation as my destination) and after I crossed 183, Waze told me to turn on 5 different streets to get back to my route before I left the small residential area just east of 183. It then told me to turn on Derrick Road (once I hit the gravel SFR), which would have taken me to 86 and then back to 183. It then told me to turn around in an oil patch entrance. It then told me to turn left on Soda Springs Road to go back to 86 to 183. It then told me to turn left on Pumper Road to go back to 86 to 183. It was only after I passed Pumper Road (which is not all that far from the accident scene) that it told me to continue down SFR for 2 miles (way past accident site) to 1322 to 86 to 183. I just don't think there's any way he was following Waze. I know it's hard for most of you to picture this, but basically he was driving on a 2 lane highway from San Marcos with houses, gas stations, business, etc. along the way. Once he got to 183 in Luling, the only real way to get to I-10 is to turn right on 183. Once he crossed 183, he would have briefly been in a small residential area and then that road very quickly turns to pastures, oil patches, etc. with no businesses and very few houses. If he wasn't somehow incapacitated, there is no way he could have thought he was going the right way. Anyway, hope that helps.

Thank you for doing this for us. I was skeptical too that Waze or any GPS would lead him 5-7 miles down a one lane road without re-routing. So why did he go so far down that road is the million dollar question? I wish I had the answers.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

DBM

can't find a source

 

[Seattle1]

This article doesn't mention a friend, but it does give his destination as Sienna Plantation

"Twenty-one-year-old Jason Landry is a Houston-native and Texas State student that family said went missing while en route to Sienna."

Prayer vigil planned for Texas State student Jason Landry who was reported missing | abc13.com
Officials drain pond in search of Texas State student reported missing

I believe the part about visiting a friend is probably facebook and therefore rumor but MSM has indeed reported Sienna as the destination -- citing facebook:

Sasser [family friend] shared on Facebook that Landry was driving from Texas State to Sienna Plantation in the Houston region.

12/15/20
Jason Landry Missing: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

 

[Ms. Fletcher]

Okay, so I was a little off when I said Waze would re-route someone 15 times between the missed turn on 183 and the accident site. I drove it this evening (with Sienna Plantation as my destination) and after I crossed 183, Waze told me to turn on 5 different streets to get back to my route before I left the small residential area just east of 183. It then told me to turn on Derrick Road (once I hit the gravel SFR), which would have taken me to 86 and then back to 183. It then told me to turn around in an oil patch entrance. It then told me to turn left on Soda Springs Road to go back to 86 to 183. It then told me to turn left on Pumper Road to go back to 86 to 183. It was only after I passed Pumper Road (which is not all that far from the accident scene) that it told me to continue down SFR for 2 miles (way past accident site) to 1322 to 86 to 183. I just don't think there's any way he was following Waze. I know it's hard for most of you to picture this, but basically he was driving on a 2 lane highway from San Marcos with houses, gas stations, business, etc. along the way. Once he got to 183 in Luling, the only real way to get to I-10 is to turn right on 183. Once he crossed 183, he would have briefly been in a small residential area and then that road very quickly turns to pastures, oil patches, etc. with no businesses and very few houses. If he wasn't somehow incapacitated, there is no way he could have thought he was going the right way. Anyway, hope that helps.

Thank you for doing this. It does give me a bit different perspective on the chances that WAZE would have accidentally lead him there.

 

[MsMarbleMattel]

I know Jason's dad mentioned his using Waze a lot, so I understand why it keeps coming up in the discussion of how Jason ended up crashing on SFR, but I think it's pretty likely he wasn't using any GPS. I say this because his journey included one turn, and only one turn, from when he got on the highway in San Marcos (which I have to imagine he knew how to get to) to when he got to his family's hometown (an area I also think it's fair to imagine he was familiar with). That one turn is the one he missed. Jason not using GPS makes more sense for how he managed to miss the turn as well- he's doing it from memory from his trip home at Thanksgiving and didn't remember quite as well as he thought he would.

I don't have a working theory of all the pieces to share, but I think the 'misdirected by Waze/GPS' theory is very far flung. I agree it would be interesting to know if he was indeed traveling to a friend's house and not directly to his parents because this would make using GPS more likely, but the friend's house destination doesn't seem like a well established fact of the case.

 

[Lulingresident6]

Thank you for doing this. It does give me a bit different perspective on the chances that WAZE would have accidentally lead him there.

Happy to help.

 

[Lulingresident6]

I know Jason's dad mentioned his using Waze a lot, so I understand why it keeps coming up in the discussion of how Jason ended up crashing on SFR, but I think it's pretty likely he wasn't using any GPS. I say this because his journey included one turn, and only one turn, from when he got on the highway in San Marcos (which I have to imagine he knew how to get to) to when he got to his family's hometown (an area I also think it's fair to imagine he was familiar with). That one turn is the one he missed. Jason not using GPS makes more sense for how he managed to miss the turn as well- he's doing it from memory from his trip home at Thanksgiving and didn't remember quite as well as he thought he would.

I don't have a working theory of all the pieces to share, but I think the 'misdirected by Waze/GPS' theory is very far flung. I agree it would be interesting to know if he was indeed traveling to a friend's house and not directly to his parents because this would make using GPS more likely, but the friend's house destination doesn't seem like a well established fact of the case.

I don't know where I read it, but I believe the "friend" was someone else in Sienna Plantation, so I don't think that would have altered his route.

 

[Ebony526]

I know Jason's dad mentioned his using Waze a lot, so I understand why it keeps coming up in the discussion of how Jason ended up crashing on SFR, but I think it's pretty likely he wasn't using any GPS. I say this because his journey included one turn, and only one turn, from when he got on the highway in San Marcos (which I have to imagine he knew how to get to) to when he got to his family's hometown (an area I also think it's fair to imagine he was familiar with). That one turn is the one he missed. Jason not using GPS makes more sense for how he managed to miss the turn as well- he's doing it from memory from his trip home at Thanksgiving and didn't remember quite as well as he thought he would.

I don't have a working theory of all the pieces to share, but I think the 'misdirected by Waze/GPS' theory is very far flung. I agree it would be interesting to know if he was indeed traveling to a friend's house and not directly to his parents because this would make using GPS more likely, but the friend's house destination doesn't seem like a well established fact of the case.

But even if he weren’t using GPS don’t you think he would have noticed that he was going down a one lane road for 5 miles or so or maybe not?

 

[Ebony526]

But even if he weren’t using GPS don’t you think he would have noticed that he was going down a one lane road for 5 miles or so or maybe not?

Or maybe he was going to make a turn in the middle of the road and skidded on the gravel and that’s when he wrecked. I don’t know....

 

[jellybean96]

Well, we know one car passed before he crashed and another reported after if I remember right. That’s 3 cars on this road all after 11 pm I presume. With that rate of traffic, there was likely at least 1 more.

And somebody owned that house. Somebody owned that Land. Somebody could’ve been out hunting. Someone could’ve used that house as a party pad, man cave, hunting cabin, etc.

I also think back to unfortunately following the Sydney Sutherland case. There was no evidence that she was hit in the roadway, but there is a real possibility she was disabled that way.

If Jason isn’t waiting to be found dead of natural causes or as a result of the wreck, then location of the backpack in the street worries me that he could’ve been hit by someone who disposed of his body. Really really far fetched I suppose. There was no blood found in the roadway of Jason’s but Sydney’s case proved to me there doesn’t have to be. Is there someone local that would have reason to be down that road that night? What was the reason the other two vehicles were headed down that road? Any event or party that a few people were at? How would LE handle questioning locals about whether they were nearby? To me, it does not sound like they believe anything other than he walked away and would not question anyone, even anyone that might refuse entrance to their land or property.

There is also the scenario that it was never him driving the car. Surely to goodness that’s been verified somehow.

So much does not make sense to me.

If we have to explain that he was injured and that is why he dropped his backpack in the road or confused and locked his keys in car then we can’t reconcile the statement made by LE saying he was not injured.

Wonder if the bag /bottle of narcotics was checked for fingerprints?

I've been thinking about this as well. We know that the truck that called 911 was coming in from work (from something oil related, but I can't recall where exactly). So was he the only employee leaving that night? No one else was out there before him?

 

[Ebony526]

I've been thinking about this as well. We know that the truck that called 911 was coming in from work (from something oil related, but I can't recall where exactly). So was he the only employee leaving that night? No one else was out there before him?

I believe the person who called 911 was the first responder (firefighter or whatever) that was coming in from a call. An oil field worker who drove down the road about an hour earlier said he didn’t see a wrecked vehicle.