TX TX - Jason Landry, 21, enroute from TSU to home, car found crashed at Luling, 14 Dec 2020 #5

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  • #421
I am sure Jason's father knows so much more than we do about his state of mind, whether he was returning to school for this semester ( grades, acceptance to the program he wanted, etc.) his friends and yet he persists in believing that someone else may be involved. He hasn't said he suspects foul play, only that he thinks someone else may be involved.

If the accident was staged, it has served the purpose of keeping the focus there on Salt Flat Road and not elsewhere. MOO MOO MOO
 
  • #422
I have held the belief from the beginning of all this that Jason intentionally met someone on Salt Flat Road who was in another car and that the accident was staged as were the clothes etc. I believe that he was required to leave ALL aspects of his previous life behind, including his underwear, fish and watch. A clean and total break, if you will.

The staged scene has served to keep the focus of all searches and assumptions and attention on Salt Flat Road and not elsewhere.

We know nothing of his state of mind in the semester at TSU, including his grades, whether he registered for this semesters classes, whether he had paid next months rent, all indicating that he was intending to return.
It is significant to me that he had attended three different universities in three years. He comes from a loving supportive family who all seem to be successful in life. He may have felt profoundly inadequate and recognized that he was not "keeping up". I believe he is the kind of guy his family sees him to be but I also believe he does not see himself that way.
He comes from a religious family albeit a mainstream denomination and he may have felt the pull of a religious sect as a way of finding himself and a direction in life. It doesn't mean that he is rejecting his family, he may have felt a higher calling and he may not have been able to face a month at home over the holidays with them.

I believe that he is not being searched for in the right places.
MOO MOO MOO MOO MOO
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That's why my mind kept going to drunk driver with prior dui's and/or no license. Maybe even someone with a job/marriage/status on the line if this crash came to light. They didn't steal anything because that wasn't what they were after. They needed Jason to disappear and not be able to turn them in. Either they caused him to wreck or they hit him walking after he wrecked and decided to move him to an area out of the search radius. Or I am open to him meeting someone and something going bad and the whole accident being staged. I just keep having this feeling someone is involved and it is beyond cruel to do this to his family. Every picture of Jason he seems to have a big smile and radiates good nature/kind heart sort of energy. I hope they receive the answers they deserve soon.
This has been my theory also...for a while now.
 
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  • #423
Does this mean that LE doesn't know what other cell phones were in the area at the time of the accident? Shouldn't they know that by now? MOO
Makes me SMH. Exactly, shouldn't they have already checked that out by now...almost 5 months later? I have not been impressed with LE in this case. #DroppedtheBall
 
  • #424
Yes, in the interview with Jason’s father I believe he stated it would take around 18 months to get access to those records and at least one article I recall stated it taking months due to “blanket subpoenas” and waiting on “social media giants to respond with the data.”
And this new news of requesting a geo fence around the area at the time of his disappearance isn't going to come too fast either from telecommunication companies.
 
  • #425
I agree about bombing, mass shootings, etc. being high profile cases but I doubt Jason's case is. MOO.
Agreed, I found that comment odd----It does not appear to be a high profile case IMO.
 
  • #426
I am sure Jason's father knows so much more than we do about his state of mind, whether he was returning to school for this semester ( grades, acceptance to the program he wanted, etc.) his friends and yet he persists in believing that someone else may be involved. He hasn't said he suspects foul play, only that he thinks someone else may be involved.

If the accident was staged, it has served the purpose of keeping the focus there on Salt Flat Road and not elsewhere. MOO MOO MOO

Yepper re: keeping the focus on SFR. I think they're looking in the wrong place. It's too bad since a lot of time, effort, and money went into it.
 
  • #427
Makes me SMH. Exactly, shouldn't they have already checked that out by now...almost 5 months later? I have not been impressed with LE in this case. #DroppedtheBall

It's more like they kicked the ball into thick bushes hoping no one would ever find it. I'm SMH too. I haven't thought much of LE's handling of this case from the get-go. I'm still wondering why a car that was NOT blocking the road was towed away so quickly. Especially when articles of clothing, etc., were seen on their body cams that night. What was the rush?
 
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<modsnip> Here on WS we're supposed to back fact with an approved source link, or state it as our opinion. It's hard to tell from your post, @BRains55, if the media, Kent Landry, or LE reported this, or if your source is social media (which isn't supposed to be discussed on this site as it's rumor).

I'd love to know which it is because that would not only be very big news indeed, but could change how some of us perceive things to have gone down that night if this is indeed fact and not social media rumor (which could still be true, but can't be accepted as such unless it's from a reliable source). Thanks!
 
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  • #429
It's more like the kicked the ball into thick bushes hoping no one would ever find it. I'm SHM too. I haven't thought much of LE's handling of this case from the get-go. I'm still wondering why a car that was NOT blocking the road was towed away so quickly. Especially when articles of clothing, etc., were seen on their body cams that night. What was the rush?
Yes. I hate to insinuate something more nefarious could be at play here, but I would be lying if I said it hasn't crossed my mind.
 
  • #430
Towing the car sooooooo quickly in the middle of the night bothers me too. At first I chalked it up to tow operator being bored at that hour and just getting on it. But why did they feel the need to call immediately? Didn’t they call before the main LE officer arrived on the scene?
 
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It's more like they kicked the ball into thick bushes hoping no one would ever find it. I'm SMH too. I haven't thought much of LE's handling of this case from the get-go. I'm still wondering why a car that was NOT blocking the road was towed away so quickly. Especially when articles of clothing, etc., were seen on their body cams that night. What was the rush?

It seems plausible to me that the car got tagged for towing, and because of slow business, an enterprising tower got there quick, to get the job. Greener times, it might've still been there beyond the morning.

I don't know that LE noticed the clothing. Probably only verified it be reviewing body cam footage after the fact.

It's hugely unfortunate the event got recorded, it would seem, as an abandoned car, no further action needed, besides the call for the tow.

Car door open (or was it just unlocked), lights on had to be peculiar.

I think of the only time I left a car roadside. Engine died not a halfmile from a salvage yard. I left a note, locked the doors and called my dad for a ride home.

Jason left his vehicle in such a way it's almost like he intended to return to it. To get his phone, turn the lights off, lock it...

So what happened????

IMO the fish remains the greatest clue. Jason expected his fish to live and I think that means JASON intended to live. He was bringing his fish SOMEWHERE.

Something unplanned, therefore, must have happened.

JMO
 
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It seems plausible to me that the car got tagged for towing, and because of slow business, an enterprising tower got there quick, to get the job. Greener times, it might've still been there beyond the morning.

I don't know that LE noticed the clothing. Probably only verified it be reviewing body cam footage after the fact.

It's hugely unfortunate the event got recorded, it would seem, as an abandoned car, no further action needed, besides the call for the tow.

Car door open, lights on had to be peculiar.

I think of the only time I left a car roadside. Engine died not a halfmile from a salvage yard. I left a note, locked the doors and called my dad for a ride home.

Jason left his vehicle in such a way it's almost like he intended to return to it. To get his phone, turn the lights off, lock it...

So what happened????

IMO the fish remains the greatest clue. Jason expected his fish to live and I think that means JASON intended to live. He was bringing his fish SOMEWHERE.

Something unplanned, therefore, must have happened.

JMO

Hmmmm... I don't recall it being reported that the car door was left open.

And I agree about the fish. He was bringing it somewhere (a friends house first (MOO), then his parents for the holiday after his sister arrived (per his dad in the Lordanarts interview). I just believe he was making a stop in the middle of the night, BEFORE continuing on to his friend's house, and that stop was at the park in Luling where his digital footprint ends. Hence he stopping Waze and turning on Snap.

What I don't know is who was driving the car down SFR. It could have been Jason but then again, it could have been someone else ditching the car down a long, gravel road because something bad happened, whether planned or not, back at the park in Luling. It doesn't answer where Jason is but if it's the latter, I'm thinking the search was done in the wrong place and he's not out around SFR.

Obviously all MOO.
 
  • #433
How in the world did a fish in a jar survive the the swerving, fishtailing kind of wreck that happened without falling over and spilling in the car, then was carried down the road by a staggering. running man and then fall over when it was placed on the road, not dropped because it would have shattered?
 
  • #434
How in the world did a fish in a jar survive the the swerving, fishtailing kind of wreck that happened without falling over and spilling in the car, then was carried down the road by a staggering. running man and then fall over when it was placed on the road, not dropped because it would have shattered?

I'm guessing there was a lid on it to prevent spillage. That doesn't mean it survived the wreck. It could have been unknowingly carried onto the road deceased, thinking it was still alive.
 
  • #435
How in the world did a fish in a jar survive the the swerving, fishtailing kind of wreck that happened without falling over and spilling in the car, then was carried down the road by a staggering. running man and then fall over when it was placed on the road, not dropped because it would have shattered?
It had been reported early on (you’ll have to go back to the first thread) that responders ran over the tumbler the fish was in. I presume this is what spilled the water and killed it. Several tumblers have very tight fitting lids (think yeti style) so it doesn’t shock me that it didn’t spill during the wreck.
 
  • #436
It had been reported early on (you’ll have to go back to the first thread) that responders ran over the tumbler the fish was in. I presume this is what spilled the water and killed it. Several tumblers have very tight fitting lids (think yeti style) so it doesn’t shock me that it didn’t spill during the wreck.
That is correct.
 
  • #437
Are there any MSM articles containing thoughts/interviews from his friends? His roommates?
 
  • #438
It seems plausible to me that the car got tagged for towing, and because of slow business, an enterprising tower got there quick, to get the job. Greener times, it might've still been there beyond the morning.

I don't know that LE noticed the clothing. Probably only verified it be reviewing body cam footage after the fact.

It's hugely unfortunate the event got recorded, it would seem, as an abandoned car, no further action needed, besides the call for the tow.

Car door open (or was it just unlocked), lights on had to be peculiar.

I think of the only time I left a car roadside. Engine died not a halfmile from a salvage yard. I left a note, locked the doors and called my dad for a ride home.

Jason left his vehicle in such a way it's almost like he intended to return to it. To get his phone, turn the lights off, lock it...

So what happened????

IMO the fish remains the greatest clue. Jason expected his fish to live and I think that means JASON intended to live. He was bringing his fish SOMEWHERE.

Something unplanned, therefore, must have happened.

JMO
There is a scanner post for this case in the scanner thread.
 
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Good to know as I also have taken wrong turn, wrong road and looked for a driveway or somewhere I could pull in and turn around.
So there are other driveways, turn around spots he could have turned into way before the accident location ??

I still think that if he had the blind faith in Waze that his father said he did, he might have kept driving ahead in the belief that even though it obviously wasn’t the right road, it might be the best way to get back to the right road. (Assuming that Waze had frozen, or was not communicating for some reason.)
 
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