Found Deceased TX - Joseph Garcia, 42, Baylor County, 2 July 2015

[John82]

Damn I miss my buddy. It's hard to believe that you spend everyday with someone and they vanish overnight. At least all I got is good memories and hope!

 

[CluelessWonder]

So we know that the truck made it to its ending spot no more than 27 hours before it was found. I'm subtracting a gallon of fuel since someone would have used that much to drive to that spot. You can subtract another hour for every gallon of remaining fuel. It's a 28-gallon tank. The police report should say exactly the time of the officer's arrival at the vehicle scene. So, do the math. That might help to narrow the times when the driver would have been passing by cameras in Abilene. The person left the vehicle in a hurry and might have jumped into another vehicle. Maybe a camera would show the other vehicle, too. That would be ideal.

 

[janetlaurie]

So we know that the truck made it to its ending spot no more than 27 hours before it was found. I'm subtracting a gallon of fuel since someone would have used that much to drive to that spot. You can subtract another hour for every gallon of remaining fuel. It's a 28-gallon tank. The police report should say exactly the time of the officer's arrival at the vehicle scene. So, do the math. That might help to narrow the times when the driver would have been passing by cameras in Abilene. The person left the vehicle in a hurry and might have jumped into another vehicle. Maybe a camera would show the other vehicle, too. That would be ideal.

His car was found between 3-7 pm on 7/5/15

 

[janetlaurie]

No medical problems! Why would they not take fingerprints?

 

[KJ's Mamu]

When he left dfw airport he came back to Seymour then from Seymour towards abilne. The Seymour police gave me that info from the phone records they got. I know who he talked to last when I was with him after that I don't know. I told Seymour police if they told me the numbers that were called last I could probably tell them who they were. The family I heard hired a private investigator that I have begged to talk to but haven't heard from anyone but his wife from day one. I look know Joe deserves the respect of knowing people do care and putting forth 110% from family friends and law enforcement.

Hello John...thanks for joining us here. I'm sorry that you are facing all the obstacles to finding your friend. I'm sure it's very frustrating. I've reviewed this entire thread. In the past I've found that creating a timeline can be very helpful so I took a stab at making one. Please add anything that I've overlooked or pieces that you know that haven't been mentioned. Adding approximate times might be helpful. Perhaps there are also other family members who joined us here that can fill in missing information.

Thursday, July 2: Got gas in Seymour and headed to DFW airport (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Arrived in Dallas & stopped at Shell to top off tank (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Arrived at DFW airport and dropped John off (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Based on cell phone records, Joe returned to Seymour - Seymour is approximately 2 1/2 hours from the airport - 155 miles at an average of 22 - 24 miles to the gallon. Estimating that he would have had 1/2 tank of gas left. Arrived in Seymour late Thursday or early Friday morning?

Friday, July 3: Information needed

Saturday, July 4: Information needed

Sunday, July 5: Based on reported phone records, Joe's cellphone pinged to a tower near Abilene (time unknown)

Sunday, July 5: Vehicle found 30 -40 miles south of Abilene between 3 & 7 p.m.

With creation of the timeline, there is so much missing information that I'm not really sure it is helpful, however is raises lots of questions for me.

1) Does his family (wife & children) live with him in Seymour?
2) If so, did they see him Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
3) Did he work on Friday or was it a holiday?
4) Did family, friends or co-workers see him on Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
5) Have his financial records been pulled and reviewed (i.e. large withdrawals before or after he went missing)?
6) Was his cell phone found with his truck?

I'm aware that some of these questions probably won't be answered and that LE probably won't release details on the phone records or financial records...but just my questions....for what they're worth.

 

[janetlaurie]

Hello John...thanks for joining us here. I'm sorry that you are facing all the obstacles to finding your friend. I'm sure it's very frustrating. I've reviewed this entire thread. In the past I've found that creating a timeline can be very helpful so I took a stab at making one. Please add anything that I've overlooked or pieces that you know that haven't been mentioned. Adding approximate times might be helpful. Perhaps there are also other family members who joined us here that can fill in missing information.

Thursday, July 2: Got gas in Seymour and headed to DFW airport (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Arrived in Dallas & stopped at Shell to top off tank (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Arrived at DFW airport and dropped John off (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Based on cell phone records, Joe returned to Seymour - Seymour is approximately 2 1/2 hours from the airport - 155 miles at an average of 22 - 24 miles to the gallon. Estimating that he would have had 1/2 tank of gas left. Arrived in Seymour late Thursday or early Friday morning?

Friday, July 3: Information needed

Saturday, July 4: Information needed

Sunday, July 5: Based on reported phone records, Joe's cellphone pinged to a tower near Abilene (time unknown)

Sunday, July 5: Vehicle found 30 -40 miles south of Abilene between 3 & 7 p.m.

With creation of the timeline, there is so much missing information that I'm not really sure it is helpful, however is raises lots of questions for me.

1) Does his family (wife & children) live with him in Seymour?
2) If so, did they see him Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
3) Did he work on Friday or was it a holiday?
4) Did family, friends or co-workers see him on Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
5) Have his financial records been pulled and reviewed (i.e. large withdrawals before or after he went missing)?
6) Was his cell phone found with his truck?

I'm aware that some of these questions probably won't be answered and that LE probably won't release details on the phone records or financial records...but just my questions....for what they're worth.

He talked to his mom on July 2 and told her they had 3 days off and he was taking his friend to the airport. His children live in California and his wife in st George Utah so we know they didn't see him . His phone and wallet were in the car when they found it .

 

[SharonH]

He talked to his mom on July 2 and told her they had 3 days off and he was taking his friend to the airport. His children live in California and his wife in st George Utah so we know they didn't see him . His phone and wallet were in the car when they found it .

His children live with his ex-wife in California

 

[PLT]

Just thinking out loud about possible scenarios:

1. He suddenly was not feeling well and pulled over and got out of car .....(but where did he go - off road area was searched (?)

2. He was made to pull over - could someone have intentionally bumped him and he got out to discuss?

3. He was not the driver - someone else had the car in their possession.

Given that his wallet/phone were left in the car - it doesn't sound like robbery was the intention if someone else was involved .

 

[CluelessWonder]

Thank you to KJ's Mamu for making the timeline. I considered trying it, but my mind is a bit foggy due to a fever. I figured I wouldn't be able to get my facts straight.

I can't imagine why he'd leave his truck without his wallet and phone. I wonder if they were placed in the truck.

 

[SharonH]

My mom did say he was sad wanted to come home to California and see his children.

 

[CluelessWonder]

I hate to suggest this. But I think it's prudent to insist that law enforcement conduct a search with dogs. They should search the area where the truck was. At the least, it would rule out the unlikely scenario that he wandered off on foot.

 

[KJ's Mamu]

Thanks to janetlaurie and Sharon H. for providing some answers. I hope that Joe is found safe very soon.

I've copied from the timeline from above and added the answers provided to the questions as well as some additional questions.

Thursday, July 2: Got gas in Seymour and headed to DFW airport (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Arrived in Dallas & stopped at Shell to top off tank (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Arrived at DFW airport and dropped John off (time unknown)

Thursday, July 2: Based on cell phone records, Joe returned to Seymour - Seymour is approximately 2 1/2 hours from the airport - 155 miles at an average of 22 - 24 miles to the gallon. Estimating that he would have had 1/2 tank of gas left. Arrived in Seymour late Thursday or early Friday morning?

Friday, July 3: Information needed

Saturday, July 4: Information needed

Sunday, July 5: Based on reported phone records, Joe's cellphone pinged to a tower near Abilene (time unknown)

Sunday, July 5: Vehicle found 30 -40 miles south of Abilene between 3 & 7 p.m.

With creation of the timeline, there is so much missing information that I'm not really sure it is helpful, however it raises lots of questions for me.

1) Does his family (wife & children) live with him in Seymour? No
2) If so, did they see him Friday, Saturday or Sunday? Not applicable
3) Did he work on Friday or was it a holiday? Per Joe to mother he had three days off so he did not work Friday
4) Did neighbors, friends or co-workers see him on Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
5) Have his financial records been pulled and reviewed (i.e. large withdrawals before or after he went missing)?
6) Was his cell phone found with his truck? Yes, both cellphone and wallet found with the truck.

More questions:

7) Do we know if LE questioned his neighbors to see when they last saw him?
8) Does anyone know if anything was missing from his wallet?
9) How much gas was left in the truck?
10) Could he have had a medical event that would prevent him from identifying himself?
11) Could someone have given him a ride from his truck?
12) Have hospitals in Abilene, Tuscola and San Angelo been checked for a John Doe?
13) Do we have any other cellphone ping information between late Thursday/early Friday and Sunday?

 

[SharonH]

i think this is such a good idea!

 

[holmesleuthing]

Has there been a FB page created for him yet? Is anyone passing out fliers? Have the local news stations been contacted to generate media attention and hopefully get some tips coming in?

 

[SharonH]

Our family especially our mom are so grateful for all the care and information you are providing for us and our cousin Janet its just amazing!!! Thank you all!! Its not about us but Joseph has two beautiful amazing children. They have not been told that there father is missing! WE DO NOT WONT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THEM! HELP US!!!!

 

[KJ's Mamu]

I hate to suggest this. But I think it's prudent to insist that law enforcement conduct a search with dogs. They should search the area where the truck was. At the least, it would rule out the unlikely scenario that he wandered off on foot.

I agree Wonder (I refuse to call you Clueless 'cause you seem pretty smart ....that would be a logical step to take...start at the last place Joe was most likely to be...that would be with his truck. If isn't found by dogs, then he likely did not leave that area on foot.

 

[nannymo]

Can you contact the Seymour Police Department and Texas DPS in Abilene and see if they will allow Texas Equuasearch to come search the area where Joseph's car was found? He could have been disoriented and left the vehicle on foot. It has to be 10 miles south of Abilene not 30-40 miles south since it was found in Taylor County. 30-40 miles south would be out of Taylor County.

 

[janetlaurie]

He is listed on people searching people nation wide on Facebook and it's been in Seymour Abilene and Wichita Falls newspapers and several tv news broadcasts. His wife and brother will be in Texas on Thursday and I'm sure they will distribute flyers. We have been sharing on Facebook and ask all our friends and relatives in Texas to share! We want to find him!!!

 

[nannymo]

It is finally reaching the local media.

http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/news/missing-mans-suv-found-in-taylor-county

 

[holmesleuthing]

He is listed on people searching people nation wide on Facebook and it's been in Seymour Abilene and Wichita Falls newspapers and several tv news broadcasts. His wife and brother will be in Texas on Thursday and I'm sure they will distribute flyers. We have been sharing on Facebook and ask all our friends and relatives in Texas to share! We want to find him!!!

I may have missed it, but can you post a link to his FB page?