TX - Joshua Brown, 27, (witness in Amber Guyger trial), shot and killed, Dallas, 4 Oct 2019

[BellaVita]

As I understand bond, one has to pay 10%, non refundable to get out. Is that correct? If so, I wonder where this guy got 25K.

I think relatives are allowed to use a house as collateral. JMO. I've seen it done before. Don't know if it can be done in Texas.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Really. There is ZERO chance LE is involved in the killing of JB. It's really fanciful thinking, IMO. So many folks will be sorely disappointed when the truth comes out. Odd, but true.

BBM
Nah, it'll just reinforce their belief that it's a conspiracy.

 

[Hope4More]

What we don’t know:
Who killed Brown, and why

So far, police have made no arrests in Brown’s death.

Investigators also don’t know what the motive was, Dallas Police Chief U. Renee Hall said.

Authorities haven’t said whether Brown’s death has any connection to his testimony in the Guyger trial.

Whether the killing was connected to the last time Brown was shot

Brown had survived a shooting almost a year before his death, Merritt said.

He was shot near a strip club in Dallas in November 2018, Merritt said.

Brown and his family believed he was targeted in that shooting by someone he knew and had grown up with.

Another man, Nicholas Shaquan Diggs, was killed in the shooting, Merritt said.

After Brown was shot last year, “he was concerned that that person might try to come back and finish the job,” Merritt said.

The gunman in that shooting has not yet been arrested.
Mystery surrounds the killing of a witness in the Amber Guyger trial. Here’s what we know

Merritt said. Merritt said. Merritt said.
Came to a screeeeeeeching halt at the second Merritt said.

Merritt has said enough that was demonstrably mistaken, distorted, or just not so very reliable to take at face value or accept as fact anything, really, that Merritt said.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Judge says she couldn't refuse convicted ex-cop a hug

Kemp walked over to the defense table to speak with Guyger, who she said went through a “marked change” after the verdict.

Kemp said that Guyger asked twice if she could hug her as well and, after a moment’s hesitation, the judge wrapped her arms around the former police officer.

“Following my own convictions, I could not refuse that woman a hug. I would not,” said Kemp, who is black. “And I don’t understand the anger. And I guess I could say if you profess religious beliefs and you are going to follow them, I would hope that they not be situational and limited to one race only.”

Kemp defended her actions as appropriate Monday, saying they took place after the legal proceeding was over and were not part of the official trial record.

“I didn’t do that from the bench,” she said. “I came down to extend my condolences to the Jean family and to encourage Ms. Guyger because has a lot of life to live.”

If I could like this post a 1,000 times, I would.

Thank you for linking it for us, Kitty.

God bless her, and I have no doubt He will continue to bless her.

Jmho

 

[kittythehare]

Merritt said. Merritt said. Merritt said.
Came to a screeeeeeeching halt at the second Merritt said.

Merritt has said enough that was demonstrably mistaken, distorted, or just not so very reliable to take at face value or accept as fact anything, really, that Merritt said.

We're stuck with him, I tell ya...
It's like a marriage from hell...
(saving up for the divorce)

 

[kittythehare]

If I could like this post a 1,000 times, I would.

Thank you for linking it for us, Kitty.

God bless her, and I have no doubt He will continue to bless her.

Jmho

She is beautiful.
And wise and human.
She will go to the supreme court , I hope.
But maybe she would not want that for herself.
God bless her a million times.

 

[Kakidoll]

IMO Merritt has inserted himself and all his theories on Social media so he can spearhead another civil suit. Its all about HIM... not JB, not Bo, just MERRITT. He's a disgrace as an attorney continuing to put out swill without verifying anything. Even the latest articles..... Civil suit and how JB was going to be his strongest witness. Best thing JB's family can do is get rid of this guy. IMO, MOO, IMHO etc....

 

[Seattle1]

Well, it used to be frowned on here to make a statement to the effect that, for example, this was essentially a revenge hit on JB by the DPD without any supporting evidence whatsoever. The Mods used to come down very hard on that kind of speculation.

Agree, but also believe this "revenge hit" notion is being discussed on thread because it's being promoted by Attorney Merritt (representing JB and BR families) who continues to do exactly this: cite JB's death was by DPD in revenge -- while also stating he has NO evidence of this, other than timing.

This same attorney is issuing statements as fact to MSM, with no evidence, and his speculation only.

More recently - Merritt began citing today that JB was to be a witness in the wrongful death suit he filed against City of Dallas for BR family -- and also why JB killed by DPD. Merritt laments JB was not offered protection after AG trial -- yet this was also his witness, and apparently he didn't offer JB protection either.

Other than it does not fit Merritt's narrative, I don't understand why this attorney is not providing the facts from Nov 2018 shooting, where JB wounded --that may in-fact help apprehend other possible suspect(s) that shot JB dead Friday night at his apartment parking lot.

Last November it was reported that 3 men were celebrating a birthday at several Dallas clubs. The three men were identified as N Diggs (victim), K Morris (accomplice charged with murder), and unnamed suspect (alleged shooter suspect that killed Diggs, and wounded Joshua Brown).

Reportedly, JB was not part of the birthday celebration. While at one of the clubs, the group ran into Brown, who also went to the strip club on Walnut Ridge (where shooting occurred).

Also reported that alleged shooter and JB were in a street fight outside the club, and when JB and friends attempted to leave, the murder accomplice (charged and released on $250K bond) handed the shooter a gun, and victim shot dead, and JB wounded.

Reading between the lines, I'd say that victim, murder accomplice, and shooter were likely known to each other-- given they were celebrating birthday together earlier that evening.

I think there's an equal chance that JB also knew his shooters identity. It appears to me that both the murder accomplice and JB elected to remain silent on the identity of the shooter.

Reportedly, the murder accomplice has two court hearings later this month Oct 2019. I think it's possible JB's killer(s) took advantage of current narrative of blaming DBP for his death.

The above are facts from the arrest warrant affidavit that Attorney Merritt conveniently leaves out of his statements to the press.

One really has to ask -- why Merritt isn't helping apprehend and question other possible suspects that shot JB?

Merritt obviously given a large platform -- please help JB! He's the true victim here.

MOO

Man arrested in fatal shooting outside Dallas strip club after Thanksgiving

Amber Guyger witness Joshua Brown was due to testify in lawsuit | Daily Mail Online

ETA: Just read upthread that (per Merritt), JB was being blamed for N Diggs death. Perhaps others believe N Diggs was collateral damage -- bullet intended for JB, and he escaped with wound.

 

[kittythehare]

That November killer looks to be pretty hardcore-

A man working security at the club told police that he tried to stop the second suspect, but the man fled.

The witness told investigators he heard the second suspect say, "The murder rate about to go up in this [expletive]," before walking into the club, the warrant says.

Morris remains in the Dallas County jail in lieu of $250,000 bail.
Man arrested in fatal shooting outside Dallas strip club after Thanksgiving

He had planned on a killing before entering the club, it seems..
Does that mean he was after Brown or just anybody at all?
I'd been thinking it was girlfriend related..
but, they waited outside..
Was the shooter a hired gun?
Were there not sufficient resources put into catching him?
Why is his name not published?
Probably because he was never charged?

I've searched every page of google and cannot find more on this story.

 

[jjenny]

Oh jeez. Weren't the original claim after JB was killed that he had no known enemies? Now we have found out there could be a whole bunch of possible people who would not cry over his demise that have nothing to do with DPD.

 

[kittythehare]

Agree, but also believe this "revenge hit" notion is being discussed on thread because it's being promoted by Attorney Merritt (representing JB and BR families) who continues to do exactly this: cite JB's death was by DPD in revenge -- while also stating he has NO evidence of this, other than timing.

This same attorney is issuing statements as fact to MSM, with no evidence, and his speculation only.

More recently - Merritt began citing today that JB was to be a witness in the wrongful death suit he filed against City of Dallas for BR family -- and also why JB killed by DPD. Merritt laments JB was not offered protection after AG trial -- yet this was also his witness, and apparently he didn't offer JB protection either.

Other than it does not fit Merritt's narrative, I don't understand why this attorney is not providing the facts from Nov 2018 shooting, where JB wounded --that may in-fact help apprehend other possible suspect(s) that shot JB dead Friday night at his apartment parking lot.

Last November it was reported that 3 men were celebrating a birthday at several Dallas clubs. The three men were identified as N Diggs (victim), K Morris (accomplice charged with murder), and unnamed suspect (alleged shooter suspect that killed Diggs, and wounded Joshua Brown).

Reportedly, JB was not part of the birthday celebration. While at one of the clubs, the group ran into Brown, who also went to the strip club on Walnut Ridge (where shooting occurred).

Also reported that alleged shooter and JB were in a street fight outside the club, and when JB and friends attempted to leave, the murder accomplice (charged and released on $250K bond) handed the shooter a gun, and victim shot dead, and JB wounded.

Reading between the lines, I'd say that victim, murder accomplice, and shooter were likely known to each other-- given they were celebrating birthday together earlier that evening.

I think there's an equal chance that JB also knew his shooters identity. It appears to me that both the murder accomplice and JB elected to remain silent on the identity of the shooter.

Reportedly, the murder accomplice has two court hearings later this month Oct 2019. I think it's possible JB's killer(s) took advantage of current narrative of blaming DBP for his death.

The above are facts from the arrest warrant affidavit that Attorney Merritt conveniently leaves out of his statements to the press.

One really has to ask -- why Merritt isn't helping apprehend and question other possible suspects that shot JB?

Merritt obviously given a large platform -- please help JB! He's the true victim here.

MOO

Man arrested in fatal shooting outside Dallas strip club after Thanksgiving

Amber Guyger witness Joshua Brown was due to testify in lawsuit | Daily Mail Online

There is NO suggestion that anybody chose to remain quiet.
He was seen by several people, it is quite likely his identity is known to the police.
They just cannot find him.

 

[Aydrianna523]

I don't think Merritt is doing all that bad. Everyone wants to get to the bottom of this. Who wants a mamby pamby lawyer, anyways?
...
Also with this being such a hot button case, I'd like to see the case turned over to another police department (even if it's only a slim chance that it was someone on the police dept). There's sickos in every profession and since he was just recently a witness for the State that's gotta be ruled out.
I'm REALLY hoping they figure out who the perp is.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

We're stuck with him, I tell ya...
It's like a marriage from hell...
(saving up for the divorce)

True! Lol! I'd be selling everything that wasn't nailed down to getaway.

I'm so upset he immediately latched on to Joshua's family like a leech for nothing other than his own personal gain.

Those like him are nothing more than vultures looking for the next family to prey on who has lost so much, and they all use the pain, suffering of others for their own gain, and power.

Imo, they are harmful to families. They really care nothing about any of them.

Their tragedies are used as mere pawns in order to get what these kind of people want. It's really all about THEM..not the shattered families. So they swoop in before their loved ones can even be laid to rest.

Its lights, camera, action to these horrid vultures, imo. Ugh.

Imo, That is why they swoop in so quickly knowing the families are overwrought with emotions when they have just lost their love ones.

Jmho

 

[kittythehare]

I don't think Merritt is doing all that bad. Everyone wants to get to the bottom of this. Who wants a mamby pamby lawyer, anyways?
...
Also with this being such a hot button case, I'd like to see the case turned over to another police department (even if it's only a slim chance that it was someone on the police dept). There's sickos in every profession and since he was just a witness, that's gotta be ruled out.
I'm REALLY hoping they figure out who the perp is.

Who investigated the November murder?
They will be automatically involved.

Merritt acted unethically. It's unforgiveable. He laid false trails, also unforgiveable, he incited mayhem and he clogged the breaking news hashtag to such an extent with his 'shot in the mouth tweet' that anyone with footage would probably have been intimidated from uploading it.
He tried controlling the narrative and lost his grip on the art of factual acquisition.
He put his own agenda before the truth.

If this moves to another investigating agency now, precious time will be lost and it will remain unsolved, already 2 days gone and nothing

 

[bwt42]

As I understand bond, one has to pay 10%, non refundable to get out. Is that correct? If so, I wonder where this guy got 25K.

Maybe he manages 3 Airbnb rentals.

 

[jjenny]

There is NO suggestion that anybody chose to remain quiet.
He was seen by several people, it is quite likely his identity is known to the police.
They just cannot find him.

Yes, but if those several people didn't reveal the actual shooter's identity, then police might not know who he is. So potentially JB might have known who the shooter is but didn't tell to police (too scared?).

 

[Seattle1]

Were there not sufficient resources put into catching him?
Why is his name not published?
Probably because he was never charged?

^^sbm

Alleged shooter name not published because he's on the loose -- and this suspect has not been identified.

Based on facts in the arrest warrant affidavit, I believe the arrested murder accomplice (K Morris), and JB both know the identity of shooter, and remained silent.

(Three men N Diggs (murder victim), K Morris (alleged murder accomplice), and unnamed suspect were together celebrating birthday at clubs the night of shooting. I'm sure they were not celebrating with a stranger).

Code of the street: snitches get stitches...

MOO

ETA: Nov 2018 shooting links are in the thread.

 

[kittythehare]

IMO Merritt has inserted himself and all his theories on Social media so he can spearhead another civil suit. Its all about HIM... not JB, not Bo, just MERRITT. He's a disgrace as an attorney continuing to put out swill without verifying anything. Even the latest articles..... Civil suit and how JB was going to be his strongest witness. Best thing JB's family can do is get rid of this guy. IMO, MOO, IMHO etc....

That shotinmouth tweet also brought another wave of vicious attacks against the Jean family. Brandt was targeted again for his expression of hugging the murderer..
That young man is hurting badly, his mother and sister testified they were concerned about him... he became more introverted since Botham's death.
If he had a half a brain he would have known the knock on effect for the Jean family.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[kittythehare]

Yes, but if those several people didn't reveal the actual shooter's identity, then police might not know who he is. So potentially JB might have known who the shooter is but didn't tell to police (too scared?).

I'm pretty sure they know.. they would have CCTV inside and outside..
it's strange though, isn't it?
He could be on a wanted list.?

 

[kittythehare]

^^sbm

Alleged shooter name not published because he's on the loose -- and this suspect has not been identified.

Based on facts in the arrest warrant affidavit, I believe the arrested murder accomplice (K Morris), and JB both know the identity of shooter, and remained silent.

Code of the street: snitches get stitches...

MOO

ETA: Nov 2018 shooting links are in the thread.

Yes, but witnesses testified he went in there with the intention to kill..
Security people saw him...
Is he even alive still?
Could he have subsequently died or something, before getting caught and charged?
Arrest warrant would only have info on the one they charged.