TX - Joshua Brown, 27, (witness in Amber Guyger trial), shot and killed, Dallas, 4 Oct 2019

[kittythehare]

BBM: The lives of drug dealers really aren't vibrant. They're drowning themselves in the quest for fast money. "Fast money spends fast". Life can't be vibrant when you are always looking over your shoulder. I'm not saying there can never be redemption because there can be. I know there is if it is sought. But usually, continued violation of the law speaks to character disorder that can't be fixed. IMO.

Yes, but even if they're broke, they still have life and that was my intended meaning of the word vibrant.. thinking feeling breathing and multidimensional entities- and there are dark entities and light filled entities.. but murder is abhorrent no matter which end of the spectrum they occupied while alive.. It's the act of taking life...

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Judge Kemp was given an exceptionally difficult case to preside over. It had everything, gender issues, racial issues, a raucous political climate as a backdrop, and then throw in that it happened in Texas, in Dallas, and the situation involved a gun and an officer who fired it. Judge Kemp flawlessly manages all parties fairly. Everyone is happy, and then she hugs the sobbing defendant before she's carted off to prison and hands her a Bible. The media explodes.

Bella Vita hit the nail on the head...God forbid anyone mention their Christian faith or hand out a Bible and give a hug. Our money and most court houses still have imprinted on them "In God We Trust." If you're not a Christian, you might not like it. If you're not a person of faith, you might not like it. But collectively as a country, in times of strife and heartache, global depressions and recessions, through natural and man-made disasters, and throughout towns large and small every Sunday, you'll see the majority of us who profess faith turn to and worship the same God. Most of us you'll never see championing a cause or heading a rally. It's not because our faith is weak or our beliefs soft, it's because most of us prefer peace over arguments, private resolutions over lawsuits, and praying over worrying.

That doesn't mean if you're of another faith you can't come here. In fact, I'd welcome you as my neighbor. But, where your faith is concerned, you will be in the minority, and no amount of hollering about it is going to change that. That doesn't make me a bigot or a racist or judgmental or any number of other ugly terms because I refuse to embrace other religions. Proud Americans are tired of apologizing for being proud to be American, and Christians are equally tired of being called wrong for any display of what we hold right and dear. But make no mistake about how fervent are our beliefs. There's a reason that without hesitation Judge Kemp admits, foremost I'm a Christian.

It's a sad day in the U.S. when a black female Christian judge in Texas does an exceptional job presiding over a trial that will undoubtedly change (for the better) race relations and relations between communities and LE, and the social media PC mob is gunning for her within the hour. They'll take up for the murdered drug dealing "entrepreneur," but the black female Christian judge who has fought prejudice on all sides her whole life, well, she just keeps being faithful and fighting more prejudice, this time from another side.

Very well said.

This country is ready for some good positive changes!!!!!

 

[kittythehare]

Thank you so much, that helps. Ok... I am not sure how to properly link so maybe a copy/paste?
Deleted link as it didn't work right.....

IF you go to JB's FB page, go to Nov 23/2018, there are a few posts related to the shooting and the friend that was killed. In his own words, bullet was meant for him.

That's not Joshua Brown's facebook page.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Good points, well made.

In the commission of a felony, if someone is killed, in most states everyone involved is equally culpable. In a sense, it makes the murder victim a criminal at the same time. He's not living. So he won't be charged, obviously, but that's the only reason, imoo. (Wow did they pick the wrong time to screw up a drug deal in Dallas!) Wonder what makes it capital murder? The drug transaction? Who knows Texas law?

 

[Seattle1]

I think rather than exaggerated, his condition may have simply improved do to the medical care he is receiving.

Agree. And based on experience - unless patient transferred to critical care/trauma center, moving suspect patient to another facility where he's placed in police custody does not typically happen when condition is life threatening -- but after suspect patient stabilized.

MOO

 

[Momof4RN]

It was a drug deal gone bad. JB had to have told them where to meet. Nothing to do with AG, IMO. This was an ongoing entrepreneurship. Nobody "found" JB. He was conducting business as usual.

It does somewhat have to do with AG. If he hadn’t been a witness we would never have known about his murder. We never would have spent the last 4 days here on this thread. And there never would have been the numbers of resources put in place to make an arrest and issue warrants. I just can’t even imagine the number of people involved in this investigation. That just would not have been the case for JB had there not been an AG trial.
But yes it ends there. Had there not been a trial JB would still be deceased from a drug deal gone bad. MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[BellaVita]

Yes, but even if they're broke, they still have life and that was my intended meaning of the word vibrant.. thinking feeling breathing and multidimensional entities- and there are dark entities and light filled entities.. but murder is abhorrent no matter which end of the spectrum they occupied while alive.. It's the act of taking life...

Appreciate your outlook. Very nice in a dark world.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[jjenny]

Agree. And based on experience - unless patient transferred to critical care/trauma center, moving suspect patient to another facility where he's placed in police custody does not typically happen when condition is life threatening -- but after suspect patient stabilized.

MOO

However bad his condition is, sounds like he is the one singing like a canary.
"Jacquerious Mitchell later told authorities that when he got out of the car too, Brown shot him in the chest. Green then returned fire, police said, hitting Brown twice in the lower body. Green grabbed Brown’s gun and backpack, and the three suspects took off, with Michael Mitchell at the wheel."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...amber-guyger-witness-joshua-brown-police-say/

 

[kittythehare]

However bad his condition is, sounds like he is the one singing like a canary.
"Jacquerious Mitchell later told authorities that when he got out of the car too, Brown shot him in the chest. Green then returned fire, police said, hitting Brown twice in the lower body. Green grabbed Brown’s gun and backpack, and the three suspects took off, with Michael Mitchell at the wheel."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...amber-guyger-witness-joshua-brown-police-say/

that's different to what the police said, is it not? Did they not say that JB ordered mitchell toget back in car and shot him in the car ?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Joshua Brown, a key witness in the murder trial of a former Dallas police officer convicted of shooting their neighbor in his own apartment, was shot and killed during a drug deal gone wrong, Assistant Chief Avery Moore said.

Brown was killed after an argument with one of three men from Louisiana who had met him in Dallas for a drug purchase, Moore told reporters.

A conversation between Brown and Thaddeous Green, 22, escalated into a physical altercation in which Brown allegedly shot and wounded Jacquerious Mitchell, 20, according to Moore.

Green then shot Brown twice, Moore said. Green took a backpack from Brown as well as the gun used to wound Mitchell.

After receiving tips, police obtained a search warrant and recovered 12 pounds of marijuana, 143 grams of THC cartridges, and $4,000 in cash from Brown's apartment.

Police have obtained arrests warrants for the three men, including Michael Diaz Mitchell, 32, who was driving the car, Moore said. Only Mitchell, still in the hospital, is in custody. He's expected to be charged with capital murder.

Kendall Morris, 26, was indicted in June for murder and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, court records show. He pleaded not guilty and is out on bond, his attorney, Henry Campbell, told CNN on Monday.
Joshua Brown, the slain Amber Guyger trial witness, was killed in a drug deal gone wrong, police say

 

[shana]

Racks are known as stacks of cash. It’s a popular term used within the rap, gang and drug world.

Yep, I discovered that. More specifically, it is a stack of apx $1k with a variation in the bill denominations. It was at that point I quit searching - I had more than I needed to know.

 

[Aydrianna523]

Judge Kemp was given an exceptionally difficult case to preside over. It had everything, gender issues, racial issues, a raucous political climate as a backdrop, and then throw in that it happened in Texas, in Dallas, and the situation involved a gun and an officer who fired it. Judge Kemp flawlessly manages all parties fairly. Everyone is happy, and then she hugs the sobbing defendant before she's carted off to prison and hands her a Bible. The media explodes.

Bella Vita hit the nail on the head...God forbid anyone mention their Christian faith or hand out a Bible and give a hug. Our money and most court houses still have imprinted on them "In God We Trust." If you're not a Christian, you might not like it. If you're not a person of faith, you might not like it. But collectively as a country, in times of strife and heartache, global depressions and recessions, through natural and man-made disasters, and throughout towns large and small every Sunday, you'll see the majority of us who profess faith turn to and worship the same God. Most of us you'll never see championing a cause or heading a rally. It's not because our faith is weak or our beliefs soft, it's because most of us prefer peace over arguments, private resolutions over lawsuits, and praying over worrying.

That doesn't mean if you're of another faith you can't come here. In fact, I'd welcome you as my neighbor. But, where your faith is concerned, you will be in the minority, and no amount of hollering about it is going to change that. That doesn't make me a bigot or a racist or judgmental or any number of other ugly terms because I refuse to embrace other religions. Proud Americans are tired of apologizing for being proud to be American, and Christians are equally tired of being called wrong for any display of what we hold right and dear. But make no mistake about how fervent are our beliefs. There's a reason that without hesitation Judge Kemp admits, foremost I'm a Christian.

It's a sad day in the U.S. when a black female Christian judge in Texas does an exceptional job presiding over a trial that will undoubtedly change (for the better) race relations and relations between communities and LE, and the social media PC mob is gunning for her within the hour. They'll take up for the murdered drug dealing "entrepreneur," but the black female Christian judge who has fought prejudice on all sides her whole life, well, she just keeps being faithful and fighting more prejudice, this time from another side.

Deleted for my repetition.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Yep, I discovered that. More specifically, it is a stack of apx $1k with a variation in the bill denominations. It was at that point I quit searching - I had more than I needed to know.

I think a stack of 1k in cash is sometimes referenced as bands or bandz.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The arrest affidavit for Jacquerious says Dallas police were contacted by a sheriff's deputy in Louisiana who had received a tip. The tipster said the trio were coming to Dallas with a plan to rob Brown.

Jacquerious told police all three of the men traveled from Alexandria, Lousiana, to buy drugs from Brown on Friday. When the three arrived, a "physical altercation" happened between Green and Brown, according to Jacquerious. That culminated in Brown shooting Jacquerious once in the chest. Then, Brown was shot twice by Green in the lower body.

Promise Hospital, a private long-term acute care facility, is where police say Michael took his wounded nephew, Jacquerius. Patrol officers were called out and had a conversation with the now-fugitive accomplice.

According to the arrest affidavit, Michael told the officers "they attempted to buy some ‘weed’” from an unknown individual and he attempted to rob them. They said an unknown suspect shot Jacquerious and provided officers a name of "Demon Martin."

"The rumors shared by community leaders that Mr. Brown’s death was related to the Amber Guyger trial and that DPD was responsible are false. We encourage those leaders to be mindful because their words may jeopardize the integrity of the city of Dallas and DPD," the department said.
Arrest warrants issued in Joshua Brown murder; police say it was drug deal gone bad

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I, personally, don't have a problem with a hug or a Bible, but some people think cops get preferential treatment. Does the judge do the same thing for others? .... that kind of a thing. AG seemed to get an abundance of sympathy, as well as a very low sentence. Putting it all together it could look like preferential treatment.

His brother asking the judge for permission to hug AG is what triggered the events to unfold between AG and the judge. It had nothing to do with AG being a cop. Just my 2 cents and opinion.

 

[Seattle1]

that's different to what the police said, is it not? Did they not say that JB ordered mitchell toget back in car and shot him in the car ?

Probably doesn't make a difference -- if no other witnesses except for these suspects, they can say whatever is in their best interest.

JB is the dead witness, can't give his account, and/or defend himself.

For all we know, all three suspects could have been outside of the car with weapons drawn on JB, and he was only able to fire one shot before he was shot dead.

No telling how it really went down.... maybe surveillance video will now surface.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Dallas Police Dept (@DallasPD) on Twitter

 

[kittythehare]

I, personally, don't have a problem with a hug or a Bible, but some people think cops get preferential treatment. Does the judge do the same thing for others? .... that kind of a thing. AG seemed to get an abundance of sympathy, as well as a very low sentence. Putting it all together it could look like preferential treatment.

Adryana, the trial was over when the Judge hugged her.
The trial was over when Brandt chose to hug her
She got no preferential treatment during the trial.
The jury sentenced her, not the court.

She DID receive preferential treatment immediately after the murder from the attending officers and the switching off of cameras etc, none of which would be allowed for another prisoner.
She was given time to come up with a story and advice.
She was left unattended while the Sergeant went walkabout to get the car.
None of the normal standard procedures were followed.
It resulted in a flawed investigation which was then handed over to the Texas Rangers who made an even BIGGER balls of it..
But that was where all the preferentials come into play.

Prosecution was fair but they threw everything at her and they weren't afraid to point out the anomalies in the wake of her arrest and they showed no fear in investigating these matters and highlighting them in such a manner that Internal affairs is doing a corruption investigation on each nad every one of them.