TX - Joshua Brown, 27, (witness in Amber Guyger trial), shot and killed, Dallas, 4 Oct 2019

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  • #901
Where do I even start with this? First, all drug dealers expect the other dealer to be armed. Why would they NOT expect him to be armed. They all are. How does any dealer know of another? It's a web. Like 6 degrees of separation. And to rely on a facebook post to be honest about anything...oh, my....JMO...drug dealers are the champions of lies and deception...
yes, but
he was clueless and reckless, he didn't protect himself, he was 1 meeting several.
He took no precautions apart from a single gun.
There were a million alternatives to do what he intended doing without exposing himself to a bullet or a robbery.
Hapless, I tell ya.
 
  • #902
Okay, so they moved him from an inappropriate care facility that wasn't prepared to care for a critical care patient to a facility that is world renowned for the ability to care for a critically injured patient. That is the opposite of what was suggested-that he wouldn't have been moved if not stable, etc.

Parkland's trauma unit-where people in "critical condition" are brought-houses patients who are on the brink of death. I worked there. It's savage.

I did CPR on a patient shot in the head-his brains were leaking out of his ear while I did chest compressions. It was my first code and I'll never forget it. You don't end up in that unit if you are doing fine.

I disagree he was moved because he was on the brink of death! IMO, they moved him from a PRIVATE long-term care facility to get him to the County's public hospital --which happens to be Parkland.

Parkland certainly isn't reserved for only "critical patients on brink of death " which you know if you work there.

The 20 yr old patient suspect also hasn't shut up -- he's sure been talking to investigators. Critical patients are typically not allowed to make statements to police when likely medicated -- as you'd expect with critical condition patient.

Given every local media source reporting on this arrest, none have commented J Mitchell in dire condition.

The Asst Police Chief had every opportunity to comment on J Mitchell transfer because he was on the brink of death, and nothing. He only reported that they moved him to Parkland where he's under police custody.

And most recently, Fox News article along with the warrants states:

Jacquerius was taken to Parkland Hospital, where he remains for treatment and is in police custody.

It's not necessary for you to agree with my opinion.
 
  • #903
I disagree he was moved because he was on the brink of death! IMO, they moved him from a PRIVATE long-term care facility to get him to the County's public hospital --which happens to be Parkland.

Parkland certainly isn't reserved for only "critical patients on brink of death " which you know if you work there.

The 20 yr old patient suspect also hasn't shut up -- he's sure been talking to investigators. Critical patients are typically not allowed to make statements to police when likely medicated -- as you'd expect with critical condition patient.

Given every local media source reporting on this arrest, none have commented J Mitchell in dire condition.

The Asst Police Chief had every opportunity to comment on J Mitchell transfer because he was on the brink of death, and nothing. He only reported that they moved him to Parkland where he's under police custody.

And most recently, Fox News article along with the warrants states:

Jacquerius was taken to Parkland Hospital, where he remains for treatment and is in police custody.

It's not necessary for you to agree with my opinion.
good news medicated patients are protected..thanks for that info, I was getting scared..
 
  • #904
yes, but
he was clueless and reckless, he didn't protect himself, he was 1 meeting several.
He took no precautions apart from a single gun.
There were a million alternatives to do what he intended doing without exposing himself to a bullet or a robbery.
Hapless, I tell ya.
You’re trying to think of ways he could have protected himself while selling drugs. It’s ILLEGAL! He shouldn’t have been involved with drugs in the first place. He was a drug dealer. This is a good example of what can happen when you choose a risky lifestyle.

Don’t do drugs! Don’t sell drugs! This all seems like good common sense to me.
 
  • #905
The only one that's missing is the 22 yr old and he did EVERYTHING!
Murder, robbery, conspiracy... the brains of the operation...
Older guy should have taken the rap if they had any loyalty among them, he's caught now and he's done. He'll get life.
It's akin to reading a copy of The Furry Freaks...
 
  • #906
You’re trying to think of ways he could have protected himself while selling drugs. It’s ILLEGAL! He shouldn’t have been involved with drugs in the first place. He was a drug dealer. This is a good example of what can happen when you choose a risky lifestyle.

Don’t do drugs! Don’t sell drugs! This all seems like good common sense to me.
I'm aware.
But everything requires methodology.. he didn't have one.
I'm only discussing that one aspect in my post.
Methodology is skyways here.
 
  • #907
Your comment ended up inside of the quote from me but, yeah, it is what is. No reason to sugar coat it. This is why inner city America is dangerous and its' where about 90+% of gun crime occurs and it's the reason so many deadly encounters with police occur in the inner city and with minorities, both when police are in the right and in the wrong. It's probably safer being a soldier in Afghanistan.
 
  • #908
The Rev. Michael Waters, pastor of Joy Tabernacle African Methodist Episcopal Church in Dallas, who has pushed for police reform in the city, said the speculation around Brown's death is driven by "generations" of mistrust for the police that's grown out of wrongful convictions and abuse.

"There is cause for the community to be skeptical," Waters said. "There is a lack of credibility that the Dallas Police Department currently has and, frankly, it's not just among brown and black communities."
2 suspects in custody, 1 sought in cop trial witness slaying
 
  • #909
You’re trying to think of ways he could have protected himself while selling drugs. It’s ILLEGAL! He shouldn’t have been involved with drugs in the first place. He was a drug dealer. This is a good example of what can happen when you choose a risky lifestyle.

Don’t do drugs! Don’t sell drugs! This all seems like good common sense to me.
I hear you but even if it were legal, they would have robbed him, I bet. They wanted it all for free. They probably shoplift, too.
 
  • #910
You can only deal with the criminal Element for so long before becoming jaded. When you are hated, disrespected, threatened and targeted by the people you took an oath to protect, hope so you deal in a daily basis? I think MOST try to deal with it, then you have some that just get fed up... Today are the ones that turn rogue. Anger, disgust, failure are the motivators for the bad cops. We need a way to pull them before they get to that point.

I don't think Ag was one of those.
 
  • #911
^^SBM

Clearly, the trio were not first tied to JB shooting/murder by LE. Detectives didn't relate the Oct 4, 2019 crimes until Oct 7, 2019.

First, JB was said not to have any identification on him when he was shot, which delayed his official identification by ME until Sunday.

Second, 2 of the suspects -- M Mitchell (uncle) and wounded J Mitchell (nephew) alleged to officers they were victims. Said they went to buy weed from unnamed individual, who tried to rob them, and shot J Mitchell...

J Mitchell later gave the fictitious name "Demon Martin" not sure if this was for JB or T Green. He lied to investigators nonetheless-- including where the shooting took place.

M Mitchell was questioned by patrol officers at private hospital where he first took his nephew, but not arrested.

J Mitchell later moved to Dallas County's Public Hospital -- Parkland Hospital, where JB was also pronounced dead.

This was Friday night in Dallas -- and this incident not likely the only gunshot wounds for the night.

In their version, suspects M & J Mitchell never reported the unnamed individual was shot.

Fox 5 report states that M Mitchell and T Green are fugitives being sought.

No information in Fox 5 report that T Green was questioned at hospital, and does not appear to me he was at the hospital with M & J Mitchell.

Arrest warrants issued in Joshua Brown murder; police say it was drug deal gone bad

Updating my post that M Mitchell dropped T Green off at an undisclosed location before taking his nephew J Mitchell to hospital. T Green was never question by police officers at hospital, and remains on the loose.
 
  • #912
Updating my post that M Mitchell dropped T Green off at an undisclosed location before taking his nephew J Mitchell to hospital. T Green was never question by police officers at hospital, and remains on the loose.
From the warrant you posted, he's 5ft 11", I doubt he'll get far and by now he'll know the other two shopped him good.
I'm SMH at them using the same car which was logged on the security cameras at Brown's apartment to go to the hospital, info also from the scribd link you posted...
Did they not consider dumping the car and taking a cab?
Completely daft, isn't it?
 
  • #913
You can only deal with the criminal Element for so long before becoming jaded. When you are hated, disrespected, threatened and targeted by the people you took an oath to protect, hope so you deal in a daily basis? I think MOST try to deal with it, then you have some that just get fed up... Today are the ones that turn rogue. Anger, disgust, failure are the motivators for the bad cops. We need a way to pull them before they get to that point.

I don't think Ag was one of those.
Me either.
 
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Joshua Brown, a key witness in the murder trial of a former Dallas police officer convicted of shooting their neighbor in his own apartment, was shot and killed during a drug deal gone wrong, Assistant Chief Avery Moore said.

Brown was killed after an argument with one of three men from Louisiana who had met him in Dallas for a drug purchase, Moore told reporters.

A conversation between Brown and Thaddeous Green, 22, escalated into a physical altercation in which Brown allegedly shot and wounded Jacquerious Mitchell, 20, according to Moore.

Green then shot Brown twice, Moore said. Green took a backpack from Brown as well as the gun used to wound Mitchell.

After receiving tips, police obtained a search warrant and recovered 12 pounds of marijuana, 143 grams of THC cartridges, and $4,000 in cash from Brown's apartment.

Police have obtained arrests warrants for the three men, including Michael Diaz Mitchell, 32, who was driving the car, Moore said. Only Mitchell, still in the hospital, is in custody. He's expected to be charged with capital murder.

Kendall Morris, 26, was indicted in June for murder and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, court records show. He pleaded not guilty and is out on bond, his attorney, Henry Campbell, told CNN on Monday.
Joshua Brown, the slain Amber Guyger trial witness, was killed in a drug deal gone wrong, police say

So Kendall Morris will be charged with another count of murder? Don't they use ankle monitors? How did he cross state lines. Holy Guacamole, Batman!
 
  • #916
I've wondered myself if I would testify if my life was in danger. I actually don't know.
Was JB forced to do it? Is there a subpoena to do it? Or can he just say no to doing it.

He was already shot once in the foot or leg, well before the trial. @Aydrianna523
 
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  • #918
I said the same thing right away, that this will be solved fast because of the large reward offered.

Meanwhile, Abby and Libby are still waiting for justice...huge reward, innocent kids...
 
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The Rev. Michael Waters, pastor of Joy Tabernacle African Methodist Episcopal Church in Dallas, who has pushed for police reform in the city, said the speculation around Brown's death is driven by "generations" of mistrust for the police that's grown out of wrongful convictions and abuse.

"There is cause for the community to be skeptical," Waters said. "There is a lack of credibility that the Dallas Police Department currently has and, frankly, it's not just among brown and black communities."
2 suspects in custody, 1 sought in cop trial witness slaying

I hope he also made a statement urging peace and calm.
 
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