TX - Joshua Brown, 27, (witness in Amber Guyger trial), shot and killed, Dallas, 4 Oct 2019

[kittythehare]

Some of the people the Jean family aligned themselves with are all questionable. Dominique Alexander, one that immediately comes to mind!

who is dominique Alexander, please?

 

[BellaVita]

Can someone explain to me why JB's representing himself as managing 4 airbnbs in various locations sounds sketchy? I don't know anything about airbnbs and how they are managed.

This is just my thoughts. If you are REALLY a manager of property, you have to be where the property is at. You have to be there in case a renter has a problem. If you are in Dallas, what can you do for someone in CA? How can you help the landlord? The landlord needs someone readily accessible. How much money can an out of town, so called manager really make? Legitimately? Likely also just sounded good to tell people so they wouldn't question where his money was coming from. Sketchy. IMO.

 

[BellaVita]

Do we know for sure that JB shot the guy in hospital or is that just something they are saying?

Good question! Need to read some things again!

 

[kittythehare]

Good question! Need to read some things again!

Scribd link that @Seattle1 put up last night or the dPD link to warrants, I put it up before sleeping/

 

[LadyL]

It turns out this poster (can't remember the poster's name) was right and not a troll. It makes me wonder if the poster had intimate knowledge the people involved or was just a "good at guessing."

It appears that JB was a pretty substantial dealer in the Dallas area from the amount of drugs and money confiscated. I guess that the three guys that drove from LA were planning on robbing him, and the plans went awry.

I personally felt that the attorney for the Jean family just wanted to inflame a certain segment of the population because he is all about money and getting big settlements, IMO.

what page or post # are the posts on? I don't remember what they were

 

[Lillymac]

who is dominique Alexander, please?

He was the spoke person for the Jean family. He's in many videos with Ms. Jean, especially after the verdict. He led the protest that night after the verdict. A civil right activist in Dallas who has an extensive police presence and is currently out on bond for a domestic abuse charge. Check out Google for more.

 

[kittythehare]

I was thinking along the lines that the three from Louisiana were perhaps lower level drug dealers and were buying enough to sell. I don’t know anything about the hierarchy of drug dealing or if this could even be a possibility.

I’m wondering how much marijuana you could fit in an average sized backpack. Does anyone know? My guess is that 12 lbs would be a huge volume and wouldn’t fit. No clue.

I was trying to figure that out too.
No idea what size backpack was though.

 

[kittythehare]

He was the spoke person for the Jean family. He's in many videos with Ms. Jean, especially after the verdict. He led the protest that night after the verdict. A civil right activist in Dallas who has an extensive police presence and is currently out on bond for a domestic abuse charge. Check out Google for more.

Thanks for filling me in.. I'm not even remotely up to speed on Dallas.

 

[Lillymac]

This is just my thoughts. If you are REALLY a manager of property, you have to be where the property is at. You have to be there in case a renter has a problem. If you are in Dallas, what can you do for someone in CA? How can you help the landlord? The landlord needs someone readily accessible. How much money can an out of town, so called manager really make? Legitimately? Likely also just sounded good to tell people so they wouldn't question where his money was coming from. Sketchy. IMO.

Last sentence right on target. Had to be able to legitimately account for his money.

 

[Seattle1]

Unless I'm misreading reports and warrant, these guys already had ties to Dallas. I know I read in one of the suspects statements, he said they went to some location he didn't recognize. Wasn't it one of the suspects uncle who took him to the care facility. Or am I mis-understanding the statement? Does the uncle live in Dallas or is he one of the perps. Hard to keep track of all their stories. I welcome any clarification.

^^bbm

I don't think this was the trio's first encounter with JB. They knew enough about him to believe he was worth robbing. Just doesn't follow that you'd plan a robbery of somebody you've not met before. Also don't see JB inviting a first time customer to where he actually lived.

As far as suspect's statement that he didn't recognize the area -- I believe that was part of the deception he was instructed on by the older suspects. Trio portrayed themselves as victims! J Mitchell said he was advised to lie he was robbed and shot (not at Atera) elsewhere -- area he didn't recognize (i.e., also explaining why he was sketchy on details).

Also, I believe they intentionally went to hospital further from crime scene. Parkland (where suspect ultimately moved to) is the major Dallas County Public Hospital, and closest hospital to apartments which would be logical choice for emergency. Instead, they went to private hospital in opposite direction, and IMO-- for a good reason.

MOO

 

[Lillymac]

Thanks for filling me in.. I'm not even remotely up to speed on Dallas.

I truthfully don't think the Jean family was either and I'm not faulting them. It's whoever got to them first and what they were led to believe. I think these activists just want to incite and keep issues alive that need to be handled some other way.
Just like the man who spoke out first about MB being shot in the mouth. Even though it turned out to be false information, it might be the only information they remember, so that false rumor perpetuates with some.

 

[Seattle1]

Do we know for sure that JB shot the guy in hospital or is that just something they are saying?

Good question! Need to read some things again!

I'm sure both ballistics and surveillance video will eventually confirm if JB shot J Mitchell.

From police, we know that JB was found wearing an empty holster, and the suspect's account is that they took JB's gun and backpack.

 

[grammieto5]

If he did have a monitor maybe he didn't pay his bill so the monitoring company took it back. Wish I were joking.

Get a load of this article: Texas company removes murder suspect's GPS monitor due to unpaid fees without telling authorities: officials


Texas company removes murder suspect's GPS monitor due to unpaid fees without telling authorities: officials

OMG this is a joke. Seriously, who came up with this idea. Will anything happen to Company? Were they obligated to notify LE?

 

[Charlot123]

Hi Kitty!

I'm not sure at this point if we really know whether he's a drug dealer or even a gang member. I think we need further evidence from DPD.

FGS, these three came 300 miles to buy whatever drugs specifically FROM JB.

Isnt it easy to get it everywhere in most states? I admit I don't know anything about any illegal drugs though.

All of his electronic communication data history will be valuable evidence for the DPD, imo, since so many cases I've read about drug dealers or pushers use either their smart phones or the internet or both in someway.

Jmho

https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state

You can move the mouse on the state and view the situation.

It seems that any state surrounding Louisiana is better than Louisiana itself, except for Georgia. In Texas, CBD oil at least is legal, so, first step. Texan laws seem to be better than those of LA so the "entrepreneurs" from LA might as well drive to TX. As to the source, maybe JB offered better product, or lower prices? I don't know if it the supplier mattered to them, but for a Texan, selling to Louisiana where MJ laws are more stringent, makes sense.

(This map is interesting in general as one can see how much money might be made on the difference in the state laws.

It is exactly the same as during the Prohibition. The mafia in Chicago grew upn explosively, partially, because Prohibition in Michigan stroke in 1918, three years before IL. So by the time it hit IL, the mafia structures in MI were ready and these were the first "providers" for Al Capone and other gangsters).

 

[Lillymac]

^^bbm

I don't think this was the trios first encounter with JB. They knew enough about him to believe he was worth robbing. Just doesn't follow that you'd plan a robbery of somebody you've not met before. Also don't see JB inviting a first time customer to where he actually lives.

As far as suspect's statement that he didn't recognize the area -- I believe that was part of the deception he was instructed on by the older suspects. Trio portrayed themselves as victims! J Mitchell said he was advised to lie he was robbed and shot (not at Atera) elsewhere -- area he didn't recognize (i.e., also explaining why he was sketchy on details).

Also, I believe they intentionally went to hospital further from crime scene. Parkland (where suspect ultimately moved to) is the major Dallas County Public Hospital, and closest hospital to apartments which would be logical choice for emergency. Instead, they went to private hospital in opposite direction for a good reason.

MOO

I missed the part of the statement that said he rode down with them.
Parkland is where most all these cases are taken. And it's only a few streets over. As far as where the perp was taken, I've never heard of the group. I did read there's one in Shreveport, but not familiar at all with one here.
There is a strong tie between Dallas and Louisiana. And it's so close. I wonder how they returned the rental car. Was there no blood or evidence in the car?
And as far as getting in to the apts., seems to me they were expected, so all Joshua had to do was open the gate. This he could do from his apartment. I think they were definitely expected.

 

[kittythehare]

I truthfully don't think the Jean family was either and I'm not faulting them. It's whoever got to them first and what they were led to believe. I think these activists just want to incite and keep issues alive that need to be handled some other way.
Just like the man who spoke out first about MB being shot in the mouth. Even though it turned out to be false information, it might be the only information they remember, so that false rumor perpetuates with some.

True.
There most definitely are corruption issues, that is crystal clear from Botham trial.
BUT DPD have committed to addressing and investigating those and Internal Affairs are involved/
What more can they possibly do?

You are correct, people are still quoting the shot in mouth tweet and using it as propaganda. He has not apologised and he has not withdrawn that tweet.
He is still bawling for yet another investigative agency to take over the investigation, even though DPD have done an apparently wonderful job already and very fast too.

Now It's being investigated by DPD, Louisiana PD, and the FBI..

What more, realistically can adding another agency to this mess achieve?
Chaos will ensue. Chaos, duplication, and mistakes and omissions.
It's just vexatious in my view. A distraction.

 

[Kakidoll]

This is just my thoughts. If you are REALLY a manager of property, you have to be where the property is at. You have to be there in case a renter has a problem. If you are in Dallas, what can you do for someone in CA? How can you help the landlord? The landlord needs someone readily accessible. How much money can an out of town, so called manager really make? Legitimately? Likely also just sounded good to tell people so they wouldn't question where his money was coming from. Sketchy. IMO.

AS the owner of a property management company, i can't imagine doing it from even 2 hours away, ESPECIALLY airbnb since its turned over so often. Your have to have maid service every time, check for damage, theft, etc. The people i know who have Airbnb's are constantly there or have someone who is. I won't even take seasonal properties any longer as its so time consuming and NOT worth the money. The places he stated also are big 'traffic' areas. Could it have been legit, Yes. But you do NOT make the money he showed off by just 3 of those rentals. It was also stated he did roofing. The more i thought of it more i thought, PERFECT places to exchange 'luggage' and cash. Easy for deposits and 'cleaning' the money, and one person leaves something for the next. People coming and going would be normal. Thats how many drug houses get busted... too much traffic. Its actually a perfect scenario, quite frankly.

 

[kittythehare]

^^bbm

I don't think this was the trio's first encounter with JB. They knew enough about him to believe he was worth robbing. Just doesn't follow that you'd plan a robbery of somebody you've not met before. Also don't see JB inviting a first time customer to where he actually lived.

As far as suspect's statement that he didn't recognize the area -- I believe that was part of the deception he was instructed on by the older suspects. Trio portrayed themselves as victims! J Mitchell said he was advised to lie he was robbed and shot (not at Atera) elsewhere -- area he didn't recognize (i.e., also explaining why he was sketchy on details).

Also, I believe they intentionally went to hospital further from crime scene. Parkland (where suspect ultimately moved to) is the major Dallas County Public Hospital, and closest hospital to apartments which would be logical choice for emergency. Instead, they went to private hospital in opposite direction, and IMO-- for a good reason.

MOO

That makes much more sense!
Uncle had a bit of time to 'brief' injured nephew whch makes me believe he was not too seriously injured.
I'm also wondering now if it's possible the 3 had a falling out after killing JB?
Is it a possibility? Is it likely?
I'm searching for a link to the third suspect having been apprehended? Was he?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do we know for sure that JB shot the guy in hospital or is that just something they are saying?

I'm sure DPD isn't taking their word for it happening. They will have ballistic experts involved.

Why don't you think JB shot the one in critical condition?

They would bag his hands at the scene or take swabs of both hands, and the ME would check for GSR like they always do which would be found on his hand he fired the gun from.

Jmho

 

[kittythehare]

I'm sure DPD isn't taking their word for it happening. They will have ballistic experts involved.

Why don't you think JB shot the one in critical condition?

They would bag his hands at the scene or take swabs of both hands, and the ME would check for GSR like they always do which would be found on his hand he fired the gun from.

Jmho

It's not 'I don't think', its 'i do not know for sure'
It was presented as testimony from one of the 3 killers, not as fact.