TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 #8

[jetsfanjohn]

Other than all 3 girls unwittingly finding themselves witness to something involving someone/s they could then identify, I've never come up with a motive to killing 3 young girls at the same time. There wouldn't be piecemeal motives. I can, however, think of several scenarios where two and certainly one was a target and the other two had to be silenced but were not intended victims. Then, as now, people kill for seemingly small reasons, but it would have to be something big to take out 3 people, let alone young girls and one very young one. I'm guessing all 3 could identify at least the place if not the people. Julie would be doomed if she either recognized (or knew) a perpetrator, but also the place. If they were strangers but it went down as so-and-so's house or business, you can't let Julie free.

As for why it hasn't been solved, I believe there are people still alive who could be prosecuted, either as perpetrators or accessories. Less likely but still possible is allegiance to a killer/s now deceased, perhaps in consideration of current family. What I find curious is that even with all of these people, there isn't much known about classmates or friends beyond the key players. One would think the rumor mill would have led to some leads, even if they were false leads. A triple disappearance and assumed murder doesn't quiet an entire community from gossip.

Does anyone know of any other unexpected deaths or accidents, or people who left town within a year of the disappearances?

There was a scenario posted a few years ago in an earlier thread where it was suggested the perp did not realise the two younger girls where in the car when the eldest girl was attacked. This would negate the theory that all three were killed at exactly the same time.

This scenario makes more sense to me than all three being attacked at the same time.

 

[T rex]

As for why it hasn't been solved, I believe there are people still alive who could be prosecuted, either as perpetrators or accessories. Less likely but still possible is allegiance to a killer/s now deceased, perhaps in consideration of current family. What I find curious is that even with all of these people, there isn't much known about classmates or friends beyond the key players. One would think the rumor mill would have led to some leads, even if they were false leads. A triple disappearance and assumed murder doesn't quiet an entire community from gossip.

Someone somewhere has something to hide.

Does anyone know of any other unexpected deaths or accidents, or people who left town within a year of the disappearances?

I searched the missing sites years ago with this in mind but could never really come up with anything. I think they say VB left for California shortly after but I don't really know. I don't know about accidents either but there's a post just a few pages back about a hit and run.

 

[Brightchaser47]

As for why it hasn't been solved, I believe there are people still alive who could be prosecuted, either as perpetrators or accessories. Less likely but still possible is allegiance to a killer/s now deceased, perhaps in consideration of current family. One would think the rumor mill would have led to some leads, even if they were false leads. A triple disappearance and assumed murder doesn't quiet an entire community from gossip.

Someone somewhere has something to hide.

ALL RSBM
Absolutely. The A family may have been implicated in this by other parties involved with serious connections to LE, for this case to have taken the course it has over 50+ years.
As for gossip, I'm certain there's been plenty of it, but you can't prosecute gossip-- not even accurate gossip. And families can keep a secret in very sinister ways.
JMO

 

[Brightchaser47]

There was a scenario posted a few years ago in an earlier thread where it was suggested the perp did not realise the two younger girls where in the car when the eldest girl was attacked. This would negate the theory that all three were killed at exactly the same time.

This scenario makes more sense to me than all three being attacked at the same time.

All three girls going missing together doesn't have to mean they were attacked/killed simultaneously, but I can think of one or two possible scenarios where they perished together. jmo

 

[DD Byrd]

There was a scenario posted a few years ago in an earlier thread where it was suggested the perp did not realise the two younger girls where in the car when the eldest girl was attacked. This would negate the theory that all three were killed at exactly the same time.

This scenario makes more sense to me than all three being attacked at the same time.

Indeed, that may have been my post. My sense is one was killed or injured beyond letting her go, and another or both of the remaining girls heard it, saw it, or came into the room/building/woods where it had happened and that was it. I think if one were killed after telling the others "I'm going to so and so's house, be right there to pick you up," that wouldn't be enough for so and so to go track down the other/s. Possible, but a lot more time for witnesses.

 

[Brightchaser47]

I searched the missing sites years ago with this in mind but could never really come up with anything. I think they say VB left for California shortly after but I don't really know. I don't know about accidents either but there's a post just a few pages back about a hit and run.

RSBM
That's one thing that separates this case from others in the area. Fort Worth has a number of unsolved stabbings and shootings from that time period, but I can't think of any other cases right off-hand where three girls just up and disappeared, leaving nothing but the car they started out in.

 

[T rex]

RSBM
That's one thing that separates this case from others in the area. Fort Worth has a number of unsolved stabbings and shootings from that time period, but I can't think of any other cases right off-hand where three girls just up and disappeared, leaving nothing but the car they started out in.

I was mostly looking for someone that possibly could have been eliminated because they were involved or had knowledge of this case but could not be trusted by others to keep that secret. It's a daunting task because as you have mentioned there's so many cases with so little information about them.

 

[Brightchaser47]

I was mostly looking for someone that possibly could have been eliminated because they were involved or had knowledge of this case but could not be trusted by others to keep that secret. It's a daunting task because as you have mentioned there's so many cases with so little information about them.

I see what you're saying, now.

 

[Brightchaser47]

I was mostly looking for someone that possibly could have been eliminated because they were involved or had knowledge of this case but could not be trusted by others to keep that secret.

I have to agree with you that the families and other people ( vb for example) were for more connected than we are lead to believe.

I do think it was someone or people known to the girls and families in some capacity, and I do think threats and intimidation played a part in keeping people from speaking out. I also think the changing narratives and misdirection, the denials of closer connections between the families, and all the missing pieces which should be easy to fill in, are down to those close to the girls protecting themselves first and foremost. I also feel there must be a perceived credible threat to this day that still prevents people speaking up, and this contributes to all the mess of information we have still today.

ALL RSBM
There have been cases of assault/murder carried out by a group, where the members of the group swore each other to secrecy-- "if one of us goes down, we all go down", "you know what I (or we) did to so-and-so-- the same will happen to whoever opens their mouth", "it was an accident and nobody has to know", or "that was a long time ago-- we were young, dumb kids and we've moved on".... I think at least some of these apply in this case. Also possible that the presence of drugs/alcohol, mixed with denial, has distorted memories and blurred details, making it easier to forget. You can't feel guilt or remorse if you can't remember, and this was a long time ago.
It's true--statements and timelines don't add up, that there's a strong sense that even people who likely weren't involved in the girls disappearing aren't telling the truth or all they know.
I think they must have an idea who did this and still fear being associated with them or what they or their friends are capable of doing. What if some of those other kids were responsible for the trio's deaths? What if there were parents willing to tamper with evidence and obstruct justice to protect themselves and their kids? That's multiple families and multiple generations bound by capital murder. All speculation and jmo.

 

[FWTrioDoc]

All three girls going missing together doesn't have to mean they were attacked/killed simultaneously, but I can think of one or two possible scenarios where they perished together. jmo

@Brightchaser47 I agree with this as a possible scenario. There is one bad actor in all of this that actually could explain how three girls could be handled and not a surprise/inconvenience that was rumored in one version of the story to be at the mall and can directly be connected to a couple of people rumored to have participated in one version of the story. The junkyard owner off Mansfield highway was verifiably know to have a leaning toward very young girls up through young ladies older than Rachel and was verifiably known to be quite a vicious human being. In a scenario where three girls could be picked up (with help), those three girls would not be a cause for concern for him at all, they would be a jackpot score. it's terrible way to think about things but not out of the realm of possibility and when trying to put together a potential event where you don't need any of the girls to have witnessed anything, this would solve that mechanism as he would have had a place to keep them and in no way would any of the girls be seen as collateral damage, rather they would be seen as an actual prize. I know its really grim but that's one other scenario to add to the mix.

 

[tilomagnet]

A junkyard is certainly also one of the best places to make bodies disappear forever.

 

[Brightchaser47]

A junkyard is certainly also one of the best places to make bodies disappear forever.

Definitely. I know there are a few in the Fort Worth area that have been in business for at least a few decades. There's one in particular along Mansfield Highway I've considered, but I can't find who started it or who owned it in 1974. Pretty sure there's been a yard in that location since the 1950s, though.

 

[OneLove]

>>>snip<<<. One would think the rumor mill would have led to some leads, even if they were false leads. A triple disappearance and assumed murder doesn't quiet an entire community from gossip.

Yeah it does .... if they have good reason to be terrified.

I know; I grew up in the south at a time in history when terror reigned. Still does in some parts. I can tell stories you dont want to know.

 

[Brightchaser47]

As for why it hasn't been solved, I believe there are people still alive who could be prosecuted, either as perpetrators or accessories.

RSBM
Agree. I am now of the firm belief that Fort Worth and Tarrant County LE have knowledge of what happened to the trio, I'm just not sure whether they actually know where the bodies are. Either they don't know, but aren't willing to pursue it because of potential fallout, or they do know, and aren't willing to pursue it because of potential fallout. Either way, Rachel, Renee, and Julie deserve better.

Yeah it does .... if they have good reason to be terrified.

RSBM
Yes, there's terrified of what the complicit could/would do, and there's terrified because of what LE won't do.....
JMO

 

[Tex Willer]

Is it known what time TT reached the bowling alley that evening? And who called him to inform him of Rachel's disappearance?