Found Deceased TX - King Jay Davila, 8 months, taken by a woman from the car, San Antonio, 4 Jan 2019

[Amonet]

I’m still optimistic someone’s going to crack and turn, moo. I imagine the interrogators are ball breaking on this one. Al though I do think someone like Agent Tammy might do well with AT or SO, but perhaps a more aggressive interrogative approach is required here than with Chris Watts since they haven’t folded yet.

Hmmmm this brings up a thought, IF they were directly involved then perhaps “Accessory” would be a win for them after all.

Quick poll, do you guys think the ladies could have been directly involved in harming /disappearing little Baby King, or do you think they are just covering for him? Tia for your thoughts.

ETA: LE has said iirc that SO is not a suspect.

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Here’s another scenario, that CD lied to the women and said some sort of accident occurred.

At the moment I suspect there might be two people who know exactly what happened, and another one or two who have been told a version of what happened. But I think everyone else is probably just trying to be loyal to family and getting defensive on that basis. I think they all need to remember that King Jay's their family too, and little innocents need more protection than adults who can look after themselves...especially adults with records as long as your arm.

That this abduction was staged and LE were called suggests that there are people in that family who would have been asking questions about where the baby was, and who might have gone to LE if they suspected something nefarious. When there are no relatives around to ask questions, then babies just go missing without anyone making a report to LE, and even if the body is found it's often a UID for weeks or longer.

In the article that was quoted a page or two back, I felt the grandparents are trying to fight the suspicion that something bad has happened and that their son has something to do with the something bad. They've lost five grandchildren to CPS, and I don't think they want to lose this little guy to something even worse than CPS.

 

[Jenmabes]

Yes and WHY, I feel this might go deeper than just family allegiances, a little baby is dead/missing yet this does not seem to take precedence to work with LE...

Blackmail? Idk...hmmm there’s an angle, could CD have said “if you guys tell I’m taking you down too for “insert””—-maybe a stretch.

Something’s up between all of these people (obviously) but what I mean is a baby is dead/missing—-do these ladies think this could somehow how come back on them? I mean if CD was the sole party responsible for whatever happened, then he could put be out away, why involve themselves so deeply in the coverup? Again I know much was mentioned, fear of retaliation, etc, but I just wonder if “something else” is up.

Criminal enterprise? Dealing? Trafficking? What? So any of these people have gang ties?

Maybe this is not all that, but idk do they love their cousin thaaaat much that want to give him a pass for the death/disappearance of a little baby? Don’t they care about justice for this little one? Don’t they fear for the other children and maybe want to put this guy away so he can’t get them too? It just seems like to me whatever happened is being “given a pass” by them or whatever you want to call it. Either that, or maybe they had something to do with it too.

My thought is perhaps KJ died while with the grandparents, accidental or perhaps abuse. They have already had children removed from the home (who belong to AD or SO I think) so if the grandparents hurt baby KJ, all the parties involved stand to be hurt by it. They could lose remaining children (JG is pregnant) and could lose the other 5 already removed for good. It gives them all a motive for the cover up. Given the grandma has cancer I can see them wanting to keep her out of jail as well. KJ just needs one person to stand up and put him first and tell the truth.

I am curious if the child endangerment will be dropped as LE said the baby was never in the car. The charge was for leaving him in the car alone.

 

[doodles1211]

I’m still optimistic someone’s going to crack and turn, moo. I imagine the interrogators are ball breaking on this one. Al though I do think someone like Agent Tammy might do well with AT or SO, but perhaps a more aggressive interrogative approach is required here than with Chris Watts since they haven’t folded yet.

Hmmmm this brings up a thought, IF they were directly involved then perhaps “Accessory” would be a win for them after all.

Quick poll, do you guys think the ladies could have been directly involved in harming /disappearing little Baby King, or do you think they are just covering for him? Tia for your thoughts.

ETA: LE has said iirc that SO is not a suspect.

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Here’s another scenario, that CD lied to the women and said some sort of accident occurred.

I don't think they are involved directly. I think they are the cavalry he called out for when he got into trouble. Of course, moo!

 

[perfectingpink]

(O/T, just came across this case, similar shades as far as concocting the abduction story:

Found Deceased - Sc - Harlee Lane Lewis, 11 Mos, Chesterfield County, 29 May 2018 *arrest*



(I think you might like this thread as it is all about the puns / this is also my “go to thread” if I need a self imposed timeout as I did here the other day; I highly recommend this for if one needs some levity to remain sane here as we discuss these horrific cases:

NM- Man seeks to identify pooping jogger )

I keep thinking of Lonzie Barton with this case. Stolen car, stolen child did not work for them either.

 

[SugarQueen]

With the possible exception of the great grandparents I don’t think any of them care if they get their kids back, or if another family member has custody. I DO think it pisses them off when CPS is involved in their life. I see it less as a traditional multi generational home, and more like a communal flophouse. I think everyone goes in and out as they please and does what they want. Someone in the house will take care of yo’ kids, even if it’s bed ridden great grandma.
I hope what I’m trying to say makes sense. Anger is making it hard to think straight.

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

I'm going to go ahead and vote, but I might change my mind. Something big that implicates the ladies, eg. drug ring, sex ring. He did it but they're afraid of him and of disrupting the status quo. I'm sitting on my hands to keep from making snarky comments about the status quo. (Let's just say I agree with SugarQueen.) I think the grandparents don't really know what happened, but they really "know," you know?

 

[SugarQueen]

Ummmm, wait, doesn’t everything say King was picked up from great grandmas a little before 7:00? Then the car and baby were stolen within minutes? We know LE is certain that baby was NOT in the car. So, that leaves us to believe he picked up the baby and the baby vanished before he got to the gas station. Either there are so many people and kids in and out that the elders have no idea what’s going on, or they are lying too. I really wanted to believe they had no part in this mess but now I can’t see how that’s possible. Good grief.

 

[SugarQueen]

I honestly don’t think it’s fear of CD that’s got everyone lying/ covering this up. I think it’s a lifestyle thing.

 

[sloane7777]

Oh, you mean the mother who in an interview made the comment, "Who is this chick", talking about the father's cousin shown on the gas station video? That mother?
This entire family, gang, whatever you want to call them, makes me sick.

LOL! yes if that's what we want to refer to her as ....I'm sure we will have more appropriate descriptive words in the near future

 

[sloane7777]

I honestly don’t think it’s fear of CD that’s got everyone lying/ covering this up. I think it’s a lifestyle thing.

Totally agree!

 

[sloane7777]

I hope SA has plenty of foster homes. After they arrest all these people for helping to cover up this crime, they will need lots of homes for all these kids!

I'd take them!

 

[sloane7777]

Thinking more about some ideas as to what could possibly be attributed to ALL of them, were they making meth in the house and maybe King died as a result of some kind of exposure? Just throwing some different ideas out there, I think chances are most likely this was a “Malik”, “Sherin”, “Lucas” type situation (death by direct physical abuse)—-were they ALL involved in abuse too? (We’ve seen that situation before). I wonder what all the other children have said to investigators during their interviews, how Baby King was treated, was there physical abuse in the house...Evan Brewer comes to mind:

Standing naked in chains was punishment for Evan Brewer when he refused to apologize

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One link I’ve seen between these people is pot, could they be involved in some sort of illegal grow operation? Guns? Idk..maybe I’m overthinking all of this but CD sure has one heck of a mugshot resume. Could Baby King’s disappearance be tied to any of his criminal activities? Like I said imo it’s most likely this was a result of violent abuse, but just looking at some different angles. Could they have owed anyone money? Is retaliation a potential factor here (meaning kidnapping)? Again perhaps most likely is CD hurt Baby King and they covered it up but I just don’t get what they haven’t spilled the beans by now.

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IF they sold him per say, well they likely would have come clean by now probably so as to not face murder and accessory charges. Unless they gave him to some dangerous people? Idk, maybe this case is not different from all the other babies. In those cases we’ve had coverups, but this is one heck of a conspired coverup by multiple parties. And notice they didn’t say he just disappeared from the home, as in the cases of Lucas, Sherin and Malik. They attempted to insert falsified crime scene locations (abduction point and vehicle abandon) which perhaps (obviously) lends itself to being a red herring to distract from something happening in that house.

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I was sure someone would have crumbled by now. Will we see accessory charges soon (after the fact or accessory to murder)? I suppose murder will have to proven first before that can occur? Surely minimal here is Obstruction of Justice??

I think you hit the nail on the head with this one I kinda figured they are probably low level pot or meth sellers that would explain ,well pretty much everything this is heavy Shades of the Taylor's who took Brittanee- no one will tell , the only difference this this is their flesh and blood .

 

[cherrymeg]

With the possible exception of the great grandparents I don’t think any of them care if they get their kids back, or if another family member has custody. I DO think it pisses them off when CPS is involved in their life. I see it less as a traditional multi generational home, and more like a communal flophouse. I think everyone goes in and out as they please and does what they want. Someone in the house will take care of yo’ kids, even if it’s bed ridden great grandma.
I hope what I’m trying to say makes sense. Anger is making it hard to think straight.

I don't know if it was one of those houses that relatives, friends, or whoever crashes at. It might not be someone's steady home but if they bring children with them, they could be scared of CPS or even losing EBT cash or food, health insurance, help with daycare. If you don't have family that can take custody of your kid/s while you get yourself together, having the state take over would be scary.

 

[happyday]

Here's everything we know about baby King Jay Davila's disappearance

So this answers my question of what the family is saying. They’re blaming the cops for focusing on them & not out searching for their baby. I still wonder what the heck their answer was to what the cousin was up to stealing the car & running off w/an empty car seat. Hopefully there will be answers today.

 

[cherrymeg]

Why didn't they do the Amber Alert right away? Even if the cops suspect the kid wasn't in the car, shouldn't they get the word out that there is a kid missing. Neighbors, friends people that came in contact with the family would be alerted immediately if they saw something odd but ignored it an Amber Alert would make them come forward possibly.

 

[SugarQueen]

I don't know if it was one of those houses that relatives, friends, or whoever crashes at. It might not be someone's steady home but if they bring children with them, they could be scared of CPS or even losing EBT cash or food, health insurance, help with daycare. If you don't have family that can take custody of your kid/s while you get yourself together, having the state take over would be scary.

I have the feeling it’s not so much scared of having the state involved but more pissed, and “ how dare they” attitude. At least for most of this group. You cover for someone who did something stupid, they cover for someone, and so on. After that continues you have have to keep covering, someone did it for you, it’s a lifestyle choice.

 

[SugarQueen]

They didn’t send out an amber alert because the car was found in a hot minute, and because dad’s story wasn’t straight from the start.

 

[cherrymeg]

They didn’t send out an amber alert because the car was found in a hot minute, and because dad’s story wasn’t straight from the start.

I think fearing a kid is in danger even from parents and missing is enough to put out an Amber Alert. It also covers the cops butts so they people can't say they messed anything up.

 

[BlkMtnGirl]

Ummmm, wait, doesn’t everything say King was picked up from great grandmas a little before 7:00? Then the car and baby were stolen within minutes? We know LE is certain that baby was NOT in the car. So, that leaves us to believe he picked up the baby and the baby vanished before he got to the gas station. Either there are so many people and kids in and out that the elders have no idea what’s going on, or they are lying too. I really wanted to believe they had no part in this mess but now I can’t see how that’s possible. Good grief.

Dang. I'm already changing my mind. You're right. That would be a lot of moving parts between picking up baby King and the fake abduction. First, something would have to happen to cause CD to concoct the abduction story. Then, he'd have to create and execute the plan involving both AT and SO. So, not one, but two phone calls and ladies to explain the situation to, etc. Then, it would take some time for them to actually carry out the plan.

I've got some ideas, but I guess I ought to quit thinking out loud right now. lol

 

[cherrymeg]

Dang. I'm already changing my mind. You're right. That would be a lot of moving parts between picking up baby King and the fake abduction. First, something would have to happen to cause CD to concoct the abduction story. Then, he'd have to create and execute the plan involving both AT and SO. So, not one, but two phone calls and ladies to explain the situation to, etc. Then, it would take some time for them to actually carry out the plan.

I've got some ideas, but I guess I ought to quit thinking out loud right now. lol

Sorry this has probably been mentioned, but when was the last time King Jay was seen by someone that's not a relative or a person living in the house?