Found Safe TX - LF, 9, & dad, Hector Flores Jr, 49, hiking @ Big Bend Natl Park, 28 Jan 2022 *Arrest*

  • #161
This all seems to be pointing to a child abduction concealed by a staged disappearance. Phoning in work 'sick', starting out when Hector's parents were away - both to buy a few days before anyone starts looking. It's pointing towards a plan to go to Mexico through a route without going through anywhere the border crossing could be recorded. That's going to involve a hike but a doable one, as proven. However looks like the scene on Big Bend is overstaged and throws up red flags. Evidence of daughters hair being cut off pointing to an attempt to alter her appearance. Leaving ID behind which suggests he doesn't need it anymore - or doesn't want it on him if he gets intercepted. Doesn't go to the authorities when he reaches Mexico so not been lost out in the desert.
The odd bit is then loitering about, wanting to purchase food, rather than moving on. Maybe he'd arranged for a pick-up to travel onwards and someone was late or never showed up?
 
  • #162
This all seems to be pointing to a child abduction concealed by a staged disappearance. Phoning in work 'sick', starting out when Hector's parents were away - both to buy a few days before anyone starts looking. It's pointing towards a plan to go to Mexico through a route without going through anywhere the border crossing could be recorded. That's going to involve a hike but a doable one, as proven. However looks like the scene on Big Bend is overstaged and throws up red flags. Evidence of daughters hair being cut off pointing to an attempt to alter her appearance. Leaving ID behind which suggests he doesn't need it anymore - or doesn't want it on him if he gets intercepted. Doesn't go to the authorities when he reaches Mexico so not been lost out in the desert.
The odd bit is then loitering about, wanting to purchase food, rather than moving on. Maybe he'd arranged for a pick-up to travel onwards and someone was late or never showed up?

Sounds plausible to me. The problem with this, of course (for Hector) is that Boquillas is on the "back side of nowhere", and Coahuila is controlled by the Las Zetas cartel, while Chihuahua is controlled by the Juarez cartel....so random travel isn't easy. If he had arranged for a relative or friend to pick him up, he might have waited for a very long time.
 
  • #163
This all seems to be pointing to a child abduction concealed by a staged disappearance. Phoning in work 'sick', starting out when Hector's parents were away - both to buy a few days before anyone starts looking. It's pointing towards a plan to go to Mexico through a route without going through anywhere the border crossing could be recorded. That's going to involve a hike but a doable one, as proven. However looks like the scene on Big Bend is overstaged and throws up red flags. Evidence of daughters hair being cut off pointing to an attempt to alter her appearance. Leaving ID behind which suggests he doesn't need it anymore - or doesn't want it on him if he gets intercepted. Doesn't go to the authorities when he reaches Mexico so not been lost out in the desert.
The odd bit is then loitering about, wanting to purchase food, rather than moving on. Maybe he'd arranged for a pick-up to travel onwards and someone was late or never showed up?

It's extremely bizarre as the camp site where the car was abandoned (McKinney Springs) is a 27-mile hike/walk to the Boquillas crossing. Combine that with the affidavit describing how things were left all over the place, I do wonder what the plan was. I hope there are more details forthcoming.
 
  • #164
It's extremely bizarre as the camp site where the car was abandoned (McKinney Springs) is a 27-mile hike/walk to the Boquillas crossing. Combine that with the affidavit describing how things were left all over the place, I do wonder what the plan was. I hope there are more details forthcoming.

Yeah, that sounds more like panic than plan. Though other aspects do seem to have been carefully planned. I dunno. I'm just glad she's safe now.
 
  • #165
Combine that with the affidavit describing how things were left all over the place...

The affidavit described personal belongings scattered around and down a wash up to "a few hundred yards" from the truck...a few hundred yards is over a tenth of a mile. That doesn't sound like the actions of a sane or rational man.

A February 21st piece posted on the the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram website ended with this sentence that I hadn't noticed the first time I read the article. "On Feb. 16, U.S Attorney Ashley Huff filed for [Hector] Flores Jr. to be held without bond, noting he is a flight risk and poses a danger to the community."

Another article noted that whichever entity has custody (Child Protective Services?) is working on trying to place LF with her relatives.

An inventory of items left in the truck in the affidavit noted a document showing that Hector is the biological father of LF. I'm curious about the date on that document and how long LF had been living with him.
 
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  • #166
Court proceedings begin for Fort Stockton man charged with child endangerment after Big Bend National Park disappearance – The Big Bend Sentinel

Article from yesterday describing more details. Hector has officially been charged with child endangerment.

According to the article, the car broke down and so they were forced on foot, so there was no plan to have someone pick them up or stage a disappearance. They were out in the elements at BBNP for 14-15 days (though LF estimated it was 20 days).

What do initials imply?
Thank you

Just standard practice when discussing criminal cases when there's a minor. Court docs and news outlets will use initials and WS follows that too.
 
  • #167
WOWWWW! There's a LOT of new information in that article.
 
  • #168
WOWWWW! There's a LOT of new information in that article.
You are NOT kidding! WOW. That poor girl. It does sound like the dad had a mental break. :(
 
  • #169
He also did not have cell service because he would have had to pay for a carrier in Mexico.

A heads up.....
A Mexican Sim card with a prepaid data and calling package only costs about $20 with Telcel, the best network in Mexico, they even have masts in rural areas.

I know that as I spent a couple of weeks out there myself a few months ago.

:D
 
  • #170
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  • #171
Dad sounds like he's whacko....
Earthquake? Tsunami in Fort Stockton?
Mexico safe haven from Texas Tsunami?
 
  • #172
Dad sounds like he's whacko....
Earthquake? Tsunami in Fort Stockton?
Mexico safe haven from Texas Tsunami?
im guessing mental health has been an issue for awhile, they were homeless living out of a car not too long ago. poor baby girl.
 
  • #173
A methamphetamine pipe found at campsite… yikes.

Wanted to live off grid, and checked out the book 1984. Maybe as some others I’ve heard of, he has drawn a parallel between that book and recent events concerning the forced lockdowns and mandates. Jmo

Flores frequented the Fort Stockton Public Library where he would conduct research on the internet and check out survivalist books, witnesses said. Books about how to survive in the wilderness as well as the novel 1984 by George Orwell were checked out but never returned, Downie said.
Court proceedings begin for Fort Stockton man charged with child endangerment after Big Bend National Park disappearance – The Big Bend Sentinel
 
  • #174
A methamphetamine pipe found at campsite… yikes.

Wanted to live off grid, and checked out the book 1984. Maybe as some others I’ve heard of, he has drawn a parallel between that book and recent events concerning the forced lockdowns and mandates. Jmo


Court proceedings begin for Fort Stockton man charged with child endangerment after Big Bend National Park disappearance – The Big Bend Sentinel
does he have any social media, it would make clear if hes one of those. but then again if he wanted to be off grid, he may not.
 
  • #175
does he have any social media, it would make clear if hes one of those. but then again if he wanted to be off grid, he may not.
No social media that I can find
 
  • #176
A methamphetamine pipe found at campsite… yikes.

Wanted to live off grid, and checked out the book 1984. Maybe as some others I’ve heard of, he has drawn a parallel between that book and recent events concerning the forced lockdowns and mandates. Jmo


Court proceedings begin for Fort Stockton man charged with child endangerment after Big Bend National Park disappearance – The Big Bend Sentinel

Yes, I noticed that too. I have nothing against the book, (required reading in high school) but it has been used by some people to justify conspiracy theories.
 
  • #177
Poor little LF. What a nightmare for her. I sure hope who ever she is with now will be able to provide her some safety and security. JMO
 
  • #178
Poor little LF. What a nightmare for her. I sure hope who ever she is with now will be able to provide her some safety and security
My understanding is that she's with her grandparents while CPS is checking out the suitability of other relatives for a longer placement.
 
  • #179
strange case
I'm glad she's safe
 
  • #180

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