TX TX - Lina Sardar Khil, 3, last seen on playground @ apartment complex, San Antonio, 20 Dec 2021 #2

[samsmom]

I do think Lina was snatched.


I feel such sympathy for her parents. They must be so very scared. And you don't end up as a refugee if things are going well in your life.

Snipped and Bolded By Me
This right here. What these parents have already been through in their young lives. This is why I’m agnostic.

 

[modesty blaise]

I hope there is a break and conclusion soon. Not only for lina but summer wells and little Michael vaughn as well.

 

[Friday Fan]

Still not sure what to make of the AA being discontinued. My gut feeling is that they must have discovered something over the course of their investigation to know it's not needed.. just my thoughts.

Maybe there will be a break soon

I wish, but I don't think so.
Case of lost child viewed as abduction
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“There’s always a possibility she may have wandered off,” retired FBI agent Greg Pratt said. “As time goes on, that possibility dwindles.”

Retired FBI agent Abel Peña, CEO of Project Absentis, an organization made up of retired FBI agents who have worked abduction and kidnapping cases, said he visited the complex and believes it is unlikely that the girl wandered away.

“Is it possible she walked out of the gate? Honestly, I don’t see that happening,” Peña said. “Most kids stay nearby, unless she was drawn out.”
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Since Lina’s disappearance, San Antonio has had a few freezing nights, and it is unlikely she survived if she was outside, according to Pratt and Eric Herr, vice president of Search and Support San Antonio, which has been involved in other search cases.

“From the very beginning, to me, this sounded like an abduction,” Herr said. “A 3-year-old child is going to walk away at 5 o’clock? I mean, everyone is getting home from work. It’s busy traffic hours there. There’s no way she’s out walking around and no one sees her.”

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The retired agents caution that, although members of the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit, or BAU — known for developing profiles of suspects — were brought in, it doesn’t necessarily mean there was an abduction.

Peña, Pratt and other retired agents said the profilers might be developing information about what could have occurred. Generally, investigators handling the case could already have a working theory. The profilers will look at reports and witness interviews for information, discrepancies or other clues, the retired agents said.

“The BAU may put together an analysis of what happened,” Peña said. “They might look at the behavioral patterns of some of the individuals connected to the case. They’ll analyze and try to determine things like, ‘Is this person truthful, or are they being deceptive?’ ”

“If they see any deficiencies or missing information, they may reinterview the witnesses,” Pratt said. “If it is an abduction, they might look at developing a suspect.”

No paywall: Case of lost child viewed as abduction - San Antonio Express, 1/8/2022

MOO: Sadly, I just don't think they have enough leads.

MOO: I'm sure they looked at the parents first, despite cultural differences and rumors and I don't see anything that would indicate they would be responsible. (Most parents who are involved with their child's disappearance have red flags and in this case there is really nothing)

IMO: At first they were focused on someone within the Afghan community (apartment complex) who witnessed anything . The belief was that someone in that community saw and/or knew something and probably were very reluctant to speak. This is probably why the reward is so high. Sex offenders/abductors are sickos exist in all cultures and there was probably the assumption Lina knew a young adult or teen. ( I think this is probably an area where the BAU was involved. Most abductions occur by someone who knows the child)

I'm sure they also focused on other apartment tenants who were not part of the Afghan community, the usual suspects etc.

Sadly, it is looking like Lina was probably abducted by someone who would have better knowledge of the San Antonio area and would know where/how to hide a body.

MOO: It would be great if we had answers, but I just don't see it.

ETA: If they suspect the parents, they can get a warrant for the dad's phone/geolocations etc.

 

[Seattle1]

I'd really like to know more about LE's canvassing of the apartment complex and adjacent property where residents/children were known to cross through the open/broken fence.

I heard the police chief mention it only once during his "preliminary" interview: Did LE do walk-throughs of every apartment? Did they immediately set up manned gates to every entry/exit of the complex?

I'm thinking of SC -Faye Swetlik case where they did all the above and Faye was actually killed/hidden inside an apartment but not detected when police canvassed door to door.

 

[Friday Fan]

Did LE do walk-throughs of every apartment?

I seriously doubt it. They probably knocked on doors. I'm sure some people let them in.

I believe they did set up manned gates the first night and during the next day to assure that Lina could not leave the complex. They knocked on doors, but I really don't think they could have done walk-throughs of every unit without a warrant.

 

[Megnut]

I seriously doubt it. They probably knocked on doors. I'm sure some people let them in.

I believe they did set up manned gates the first night and during the next day to assure that Lina could not leave the complex. They knocked on doors, but I really don't think they could have done walk-throughs of every unit without a warrant.

Nor of the adjacent complex.

JMO

 

[Friday Fan]

The Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) handles the Amber Alert Program/System. DPS make decisions to issue based on requests FROM local LE agencies and FOR Local or statewide LE Agencies and the general public to be aware of the missing person. DPS also decides when to discontinue the Alert which can range from 3-10 days after the alert was issued or when the missing person has been located. This decision is strictly a DPS decision, not local LE agencies.
Although, Lina’s alert has been discontinued, SAPD has not reduced its’ efforts on this case one bit.

It is simply a "Temporary" Alert to bring attention then it is discontinued after a short time period. The active or inactive alert has nothing to do with any part of the investigation itself. There is no connection in any way to the progress or lack thereof by SAPD or the FBI.

About DPS: Welcome to the Texas Department of Public Safety | Department of Public Safety

 

[MassGuy]

HELP FIND LINA: There will be a search for Lina Khil Sunday morning at 9:00 a.m.
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You are asked to meet in the parking lot of McDermott Elementary if you want to help.
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News4sa.com
Foxsanantonio.com

https://twitter.com/amandahtv/status/1480040833013460994?s=21

 

[Seattle1]

I seriously doubt it. They probably knocked on doors. I'm sure some people let them in.

I believe they did set up manned gates the first night and during the next day to assure that Lina could not leave the complex. They knocked on doors, but I really don't think they could have done walk-throughs of every unit without a warrant.

^^bbm

Actually, apartment walk-throughs at the complex are perfectly legal with the consent of the occupant and a warrant not required. Even Faye's killer granted police access to his apartment during their door-to-door canvassing of the complex searching for the child. Generally, neighbors are very willing to cooperate in these types of circumstances -- especially if they too have children. .
And a walk-through is just that -- police entering the home, poking their head in the bath and bedrooms, observing, smelling, everything in plain view. Obviously, anything/anyone piquing suspicion/interest would require a warrant for a more thorough search. MOO

 

[Lillymac]

Has there been any updates except the amber alert cancelation? Any announcements or comments from the Afghan community or Lina's father. Any new YouTube? Oddly quiet it seems to me.

 

[Friday Fan]

^^bbm

Actually, apartment walk-throughs at the complex are perfectly legal with the consent of the occupant and a warrant not required. Even Faye's killer granted police access to his apartment during their door-to-door canvassing of the complex searching for the child. Generally, neighbors are very willing to cooperate in these types of circumstances -- especially if they too have children. .
And a walk-through is just that -- police entering the home, poking their head in the bath and bedrooms, observing, smelling, everything in plain view. Obviously, anything/anyone piquing suspicion/interest would require a warrant for a more thorough search. MOO

Yes, you don't need a warrant if the occupant lets you in, but if they don't, then you would need one. And I imagine it was probably a cursory looking around.
I can imagine some people in San Antonio refusing. (I gotta hide my pot!!)

 

[Friday Fan]

Has there been any updates except the amber alert cancelation? Any announcements or comments from the Afghan community or Lina's father. Any new YouTube? Oddly quiet it seems to me.

I saw a few people reporting false sightings of Lina. One girl took a picture of a supposed vehicle and license plate and shared it online, but took several days to call the police. The police found the guy. He has a daughter that looks like Lina. Meanwhile, the poor guy is being harassed online. She won't take the image of his license plate down.

One lady is posting conspiracy theories about Lina and the police department and the Security and Exchange Commission...(go figure) I think she is bothering the police with all this stuff too.


In other words, the crazies are coming out!

There are no official updates. They have not found Lina.


I believe Lina's family thanked everyone after the FBI searched the creek.

I think it's going to be awhile before we have official updates.

ETA: MassGuy had just posted: https://twitter.com/amandahtv/status/1480040833013460994?s=21
HELP FIND LINA: There will be a search for Lina Khil Sunday morning at 9:00 a.m. + You are asked to meet in the parking lot of McDermott Elementary if you want to help. +

I really should join a search. I'm not really in good physical shape, but there also seems to be bonding and community coming together for a good cause at these searches.


Missing persons expert, Islamic Center talk Lina Khil's discontinued Amber Alert
AMBER Alert discontinued, but search goes on for 3-year-old Lina Sardar Khil | kens5.com
Case of lost child viewed as abduction - San Antonio Express, 1/8/2022

 

[distracted]

I also think she was abducted but I'm holding out hope that she is alive. I realize that the statistics prove otherwise but because they haven't found her, I still have hope.

Also, the timeline is relatively tight, giving someone very little time to move her without being noticed unless she was taken far away from the apartment complex.

 

[Seattle1]

Yes, you don't need a warrant if the occupant lets you in, but if they don't, then you would need one. And I imagine it was probably a cursory looking around.
I can imagine some people in San Antonio refusing. (I gotta hide my pot!!)

Lol -- unless you have a grow operation going on -- LE/FBI canvassers aren't going to care about your 3 joints on the end table! They're looking for a missing child!

Young Faye was recovered 3-days after being reported missing and after the most intensive, organized neighborhood canvass by LE I've ever witnessed. More than 200 officers knocked on every single apartment door. If your roommate wasn't home when cops stopped by -- they came back a second time looking for your roommate.

In this case, the killer was a fast-food manager that worked a split shift -- opened the store early, returned in the late afternoon, and worked late until close. After police talked to his roommate, they returned to their apartment a second time-- just to confirm that they'd made contact with every resident of the complex. The killer, like his roommate earlier, also gave consent for police to come inside the apartment where the officer's notes later revealed that LE observed a dark laundry bag that appeared full but didn't look out of the ordinary.

After LE recovered Faye's body, and tied the suspect to Faye's murder, they found that the laundry bag tested positive for Faye's DNA. It's believed that Faye was likely concealed in the bag when LE first observed the apartment.

This is the type of canvassing of Lina's complex I was hoping to read about.

Body of girl 'was hidden in killer's house while cops searched for her'

 

[katydid23]

Lol -- unless you have a grow operation going on -- LE/FBI canvassers aren't going to care about your 3 joints on the end table! They're looking for a missing child!

Young Faye was recovered 3-days after being reported missing and after the most intensive, organized neighborhood canvass by LE I've ever witnessed. More than 200 officers knocked on every single apartment door. If your roommate wasn't home when cops stopped by -- they came back a second time looking for your roommate.

In this case, the killer was a fast-food manager that worked a split shift -- opened the store early, returned in the late afternoon, and worked late until close. After police talked to his roommate, they returned to their apartment a second time-- just to confirm that they'd made contact with every resident of the complex. The killer, like his roommate earlier, also gave consent for police to come inside the apartment where the officer's notes later revealed that LE observed a dark laundry bag that appeared full but didn't look out of the ordinary.

After LE recovered Faye's body, and tied the suspect to Faye's murder, they found that the laundry bag tested positive for Faye's DNA. It's believed that Faye was likely concealed in the bag when LE first observed the apartment.

This is the type of canvassing of Lina's complex I was hoping to read about.

Body of girl 'was hidden in killer's house while cops searched for her'

Yes, and I agree with you about the neighbouring complex with the children's play area. A young girl would be very attracted to going to the play area to see her friends. If a predator spotted her alone, looking around, he could have snatched her very quickly.

 

[Friday Fan]

Lol -- unless you have a grow operation going on -- LE/FBI canvassers aren't going to care about your 3 joints on the end table! They're looking for a missing child!

Young Faye was recovered 3-days after being reported missing and after the most intensive, organized neighborhood canvass by LE I've ever witnessed. More than 200 officers knocked on every single apartment door. If your roommate wasn't home when cops stopped by -- they came back a second time looking for your roommate.

In this case, the killer was a fast-food manager that worked a split shift -- opened the store early, returned in the late afternoon, and worked late until close. After police talked to his roommate, they returned to their apartment a second time-- just to confirm that they'd made contact with every resident of the complex. The killer, like his roommate earlier, also gave consent for police to come inside the apartment where the officer's notes later revealed that LE observed a dark laundry bag that appeared full but didn't look out of the ordinary.

After LE recovered Faye's body, and tied the suspect to Faye's murder, they found that the laundry bag tested positive for Faye's DNA. It's believed that Faye was likely concealed in the bag when LE first observed the apartment.

This is the type of canvassing of Lina's complex I was hoping to read about.

Body of girl 'was hidden in killer's house while cops searched for her'

I have not read details, but I'm just assuming it was a knock and quick search. We have a few "get off of my lawn", "none of your business" types. I really don't know. Was giving pot as an example and sometimes people don't know the laws. Since it was the few hours after and the next day, I don't even know if Lina would smell yet.

 

[Turkeytrot]

I have not read details, but I'm just assuming it was a knock and quick search. We have a few "get off of my lawn", "none of your business" types. I really don't know. Was giving pot as an example and sometimes people don't know the laws. Since it was the a few hours after and the next day, I don't even know if Lina would smell yet.

I hate to even think about it that way/say this, but I wish they'd do this type of door to door again, if they haven't. Because of the smell aspect

I keep getting the feeling that she's close

 

[mooseandcoffee]

I'd really like to know more about LE's canvassing of the apartment complex and adjacent property where residents/children were known to cross through the open/broken fence.

I heard the police chief mention it only once during his "preliminary" interview: Did LE do walk-throughs of every apartment? Did they immediately set up manned gates to every entry/exit of the complex?

I'm thinking of SC -Faye Swetlik case where they did all the above and Faye was actually killed/hidden inside an apartment but not detected when police canvassed door to door.

I don't think they are able to search apartments without warrants, right? You can't just bust into people's homes.

 

[Friday Fan]

I don't think they are able to search apartments without warrants, right? You can't just bust into people's homes.

Exactly...
They probably went door-to-door and asked to come in. If the occupant allowed them and they felt good about the residence, they probably scratched the person/residence off their list.

If someone said no or they got a bad vibe, they probably keep a watch on the person. (When they come/when they go/where they work/where they were when Lina went missing etc)
They could only actually perform a detailed search of a unit with a probable cause warrant signed by a judge.

However, they can always go outside residents with cadavar dogs. I think the dogs might be able to pick up the scent at a door. (This is based on what humans can smell..a human could smell inside, so a dog can probably smell at a door)

 

[DizzyB]

Lol -- unless you have a grow operation going on -- LE/FBI canvassers aren't going to care about your 3 joints on the end table! They're looking for a missing child!

Young Faye was recovered 3-days after being reported missing and after the most intensive, organized neighborhood canvass by LE I've ever witnessed. More than 200 officers knocked on every single apartment door. If your roommate wasn't home when cops stopped by -- they came back a second time looking for your roommate.

In this case, the killer was a fast-food manager that worked a split shift -- opened the store early, returned in the late afternoon, and worked late until close. After police talked to his roommate, they returned to their apartment a second time-- just to confirm that they'd made contact with every resident of the complex. The killer, like his roommate earlier, also gave consent for police to come inside the apartment where the officer's notes later revealed that LE observed a dark laundry bag that appeared full but didn't look out of the ordinary.

After LE recovered Faye's body, and tied the suspect to Faye's murder, they found that the laundry bag tested positive for Faye's DNA. It's believed that Faye was likely concealed in the bag when LE first observed the apartment.

This is the type of canvassing of Lina's complex I was hoping to read about.

Body of girl 'was hidden in killer's house while cops searched for her'

If I were not a US citizen, I don’t know how comfortable I would feel about the cops searching my place. Actually not even as a US citizen. I get it, they are looking for a child, and not my weed. But as a refugee, maybe with some negative experiences, I might be nervous and probably not want to let them in.