TX - *LOCATED* Barefoot woman seen on surveillance video, Montgomery County, 24 Aug 2018

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  • #301
ya but look again and you can see they are medical restraints . you can get them on amazon look at picture i just loaded below. My question is why would someone use medical restraints and not handcuffs when abducting someone . sort of weird to use medical restraints in an abduction rather then handcuffs

Not weird if you were keeping someone long term against their will in a house. You would need a length of chain to wrap around something like a pole that went from ceiling to floor. It would give her a little movement to be able to sit or lie on a bed and still be confined to the location.

ETA and it would be a little more comfortable for her around the wrists if a perp wanted to confine her long term in his house. The medical restraints makes more sense than handcuffs for long term confinement.
 
  • #302
Me too. The Long Island Serial Killer cases are what nightmares are made of. I grew up not too far from where the bodies were found. Wish they would solve that case and arrest someone.

I live wayyyy too close to where victims body parts were found. Tbh it’s one of the main reasons I wouldn’t open my door if someone was frantically ringing my bell in the middle of the night.
 
  • #303
In the still photos she looks pregnant to me but in the video it appears to be shadows moving across the white t shirt.
I don’t see anything “sexy” about the video. I think the male commenters have been watching too many amateur videos shot in night vision and it’s coloring their opinions.
What is the temperature in the middle of the night in Texas now? The bare legs and feet are more telling to me than anything. The restraints could plausibly be a prop for a setup, but I can’t imagine why she would be barefoot in that case. If she was intoxicated or impaired, I suppose she could be impervious to cold.
 
  • #304
I live wayyyy too close to where victims body parts were found. Tbh it’s one of the main reasons I wouldn’t open my door if someone was frantically ringing my bell in the middle of the night.

Agree that I would not be inclined to open my door at that hour either. The best approach is to yell through the door that you are calling police for her and tell her to wait right there and police are coming to help her.
 
  • #305
There would only be two EMS personnel that would recognize her. They are working the night shift right now because this occurred at 3 am. Give them a day or two to read the news and realize she was their transport.

Except this happened on the 24th, not last night.
 
  • #306
ya it just seems odd in an abduction scenario to use medical restraints ? usually those are used so they don’t hurt the patient and if someone abducted her and is chasing her you would think they wouldn’t care if the handcuffs hurt . i still do not think it’s a hoax or setup but i just don’t know where she escaped from !! so weird can’t stop thinking about it . seriously something out of a horror movie

My first thought upon seeing the medical restraints was that she escaped some kind of hospital. I really think those restraints are the locking kind. However, no one has come forward from any type of hospital saying she escaped their care. Would they come forward or would that be a PR nightmare for said facility, so they look the other way?

Could it be that someone bought those restraints online or took them from their job and abducted her? That's very possible. If that woman is safe somewhere, she may just be too embarrassed to come forward at this point. I'm hoping that's the case.
 
  • #307
It could be medical restraints, but maybe if there is a person holding her against her will, they could be in a position to have a pair of medical restraints? JMO
Is it just me or does it look like medical restrains on only one had and proper metal handcuffs on the other... ? If so, is there a situation (medical or criminal) that would make sense for the combo that I may not be aware of?
 
  • #308
I think it could be her too. And I-35 takes a person straight south from Wichita area all the way down to Texas. So maybe you meant I-35.

I think it could be her because her case has all the earmarks of someone that may have been abducted.

From this article of the missing girl KN there are a couple things that stood out.

LE had three possibilities they stated and their #2 one was this one which allows the possibility she was abducted.

"There’s a possibility she was abducted or taken out of the state, he said.
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And one alleged witness says this about the day she disappeared which if accurate then she was likely abducted:

"he said she called him about 5 o’clock (the day she disappeared) and said she was at Pawnee and Broadway and she was really tired so could he come pick her up,” Bruce Nystrom said. “When he got there, she wasn’t there.”

5 months after she disappeared, one question remains: What happened to Kendra?
I just connected with Kendra's family on facebook... they have reviewed the video and spoke with the Sheriff.. and do to evidence not yet release to the public, they can confirm that it is NOT Kendra in the video. :(
 
  • #309
Does the t shirt seem like it would belong to a man?
 
  • #310
ya but look again and you can see they are medical restraints . you can get them on amazon look at picture i just loaded below. My question is why would someone use medical restraints and not handcuffs when abducting someone . sort of weird to use medical restraints in an abduction rather then handcuffs

They look like bondage gear to me.
 
  • #311
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Augusta police seek information about woman reported missing
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Elizabeth A. Munster
Good sleuthing. Also look at the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office Facebook page. Under the thread for the post on this, there are several suggestions of missing women who look a lot like this lady. You might want to post your idea to that thread too. The Sheriff's Office says they are checking out all of the missing person suggestions being posted on that thread on their FB page.
 
  • #312
It's not against the law to leave an ambulance or an emergency room. EMS personnel and emergency room staff do NOT contact the police when a patient leaves AMA (against medical advice) or without treatment unless that patient has access to a car and will be driving impaired or the patient has been involuntarily committed.

There are dozens of ambulance services serving this hospital in this metro and surrounding rural area, not just one.
Thanks for info. I meant that with the publicity this has gotten, I would think the police would just call them and ask. Where I live, ambulance and police use the same radio channel. Not sure about there. Often those in emergency services are friends with police. I know in my line of work, we all know of each other and it’s a huge city. I just think it’s unlikely to be an escaped ems / ER patient. I also think it’s unlikely EMS would have left a bound patient alone long enough to escape if in transport. JMO.
 
  • #313
I just connected with Kendra's family on facebook... they have reviewed the video and spoke with the Sheriff.. and do to evidence not yet release to the public, they can confirm that it is NOT Kendra in the video. :(

Oh wow. Thank you so much for this information because the more I kept reading about the KN case the more I became convinced it had to be her.

Surprised and saddened a little it is not her because that would have maybe helped solve KN case.

Thanks again so much. Now we can research other possibilities.
 
  • #314
This seems recent enough and close enough and there appears to be a resemblance. Have you sent this in as a tip? It seems worth sending a tip, IMO.
(I saw there was an investigator in the reddit forums on this case - might be an easy place to get someone who has the ability to do something about it to take a quick look and see if it should be pursued).
Make sure you post any missing person match suggestions to the thread for this that is on the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office Facebook page. They have several suggestions people have posted there and the Sheriff' Office says they are checking out any missing people suggestions people post on the Sheriff's thread.
 
  • #315
They look like bondage gear to me.
no i don’t think so . usually those are all leather with chains this looks a lot more like medical restraints to me . either way i think this girl is in trouble to go to 5 different houses and ring the doorbell 30 times in a row and be looking back like that and running through the bushes seems like definitely she is hiding from someone
 
  • #316
ya it just seems odd in an abduction scenario to use medical restraints ? usually those are used so they don’t hurt the patient and if someone abducted her and is chasing her you would think they wouldn’t care if the handcuffs hurt . i still do not think it’s a hoax or setup but i just don’t know where she escaped from !! so weird can’t stop thinking about it . seriously something out of a horror movie
...Handcuffs also leave marks... I believe the medical ones are padded in a way where they shouldn't really leave marks... if that is the case, than maybe the "perp" either doesn't want to cause any extra pain or leave marks (and there have been some abductors in the past where pain and torture are not necessarily their goal...) but the other thought of why they wouldn't want to leave marks was... that it could be someone she knows. She could be in an abusive relationship... where her partner locks her up and uses those kinds of bindings to hide any evidence of what he's doing at home... IDK...
 
  • #317
In the still photos she looks pregnant to me but in the video it appears to be shadows moving across the white t shirt.
I don’t see anything “sexy” about the video. I think the male commenters have been watching too many amateur videos shot in night vision and it’s coloring their opinions.
What is the temperature in the middle of the night in Texas now? The bare legs and feet are more telling to me than anything. The restraints could plausibly be a prop for a setup, but I can’t imagine why she would be barefoot in that case. If she was intoxicated or impaired, I suppose she could be impervious to cold.

In south Texas when it cools down at night in August that means the temperature is 85 or less. If it is forecast to be less than upper 70’s that’s what we call a cold front.
 
  • #318
Oh wow. Thank you so much for this information because the more I kept reading about the KN case the more I became convinced it had to be her.

Surprised and saddened a little it is not her because that would have maybe helped solve KN case.

Thanks again so much. Now we can research other possibilities.

oh I was COMPLETELY convinced!
 
  • #319
also everyone keeps saying that why wasn’t she screaming if she was in trouble but it seems like maybe the person she was running from wasn’t that close to her and she didn’t want to make noise to inform whoever she was running from where she was hence why she kept moving on to different houses if they didn’t answer quick enough
 
  • #320
...Handcuffs also leave marks... I believe the medical ones are padded in a way where they shouldn't really leave marks... if that is the case, than maybe the "perp" either doesn't want to cause any extra pain or leave marks (and there have been some abductors in the past where pain and torture are not necessarily their goal...) but the other thought of why they wouldn't want to leave marks was... that it could be someone she knows. She could be in an abusive relationship... where her partner locks her up and uses those kinds of bindings to hide any evidence of what he's doing at home... IDK...
ya that’s what i was thinking maybe it was someone she knew ... i don’t know it’s all too weird or maybe she did escape some hospital but you’d think the police is asking all facilities if anyone has escaped recently i mean she was barefoot with no pants i’m sure she hasn’t been traveling for too long so she escaped somewhere fairly nearby
 
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