TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #1

[SideKick]

And of course we have to have a Ruff/Kennedy adoption!

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.kennedy/2226/mb.ashx

 

[killarney rose]

Have to admit, things are so hectic here that I am not sleuthing. Just reading and posting thoughts when I have them.....

Meant to include that I don't know the maiden name. Sorry.

 

[ClaireNC]

While we asked for it, the transition to a forum with multiple threads is not all that easy. I am going to request that this thread be renamed to General Discussion - Jane Doe aka Lori Erica Kennedy, so it can be used as a place for people to post if they don't know where to post.

 

[trixandhoney]

Foster care is an area dear to my heart, so I may be partial to the theory that FLEK either disappeared from or aged out of the system.

Foster care has come a long way in recent years, but there are still children who go missing from the system and aren't reported for months, years, or ever. It was worse in the 1980's when the tracking/data collection systems were less sophisticated.

Here is an article on the issue: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=11251835

And the charley project blogger did a post specifically featuring missing foster care kids: http://charleyross.wordpress.com/2012/07/01/children-missing-from-foster-care/

I don't think any of the MP written about in that post are FLEK, but it may be an angle to pursue.

 

[MrsTigglesworth]

Great, Claire! For the newbies who find this thread, just look under the main WEBSLEUTHS heading for " mysterious woman from Longview, Texas". This will give you all the discussion categories. General updates and comments that don't fit a certain category of research will be found here on this thread or if it is renamed, as a general discussion.

 

[mandiedq]

I tweeted Anderson Cooper with a link to her story as well.

I'll volunteer to be interviewed by him if he wants to talk to a regular Joe. *swoon*

 

[True Crime Gal]

I have yet to go looking for the new subforum--not sure where it is or if I'm in it already, :facepalm:

{respectful snippage}
•Mountain Bell
(3 hours less) [her parenthesis, could possibly say 13 hours less]

I don't recall seeing anyone mention this, but Mountain Bell more or less covered the Mountain Time zone. If on the east coast, the Mountain Time Zone is 2 hours behind. If in the Mountain Time Zone, there are no continental US time zones that are "3 hours less" (if you're in AZ during the summer (Daylight Savings Time is not observed, so they're basically on Pacific time), then the Hawaii Time Zone is 3 hours earlier).

I lean towards it being a very sloppy "13", which is (as another poster pointed out in the previous, 81-page thread ) the non-DST offset of time between Texas (UTC -6) and Thailand (UTC +7)... though Texas is not even in Mountain time, so IDEK :banghead:

Funny, that the possible "(13" almost looks like a "(B" to me... but "(B hours less)" makes even less sense... :banghead::banghead:

tcg

 

[Linda9681]

Someone used the address on her resume to create a profile with the username Cedar.
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Longview, WhtFem (UP 9863), 41-50, Suicide - Assumed Identity, Dec'10

I found a link that led to a photographer in Los Angeles by the name of Cedar Pasouri. Shes pretty talented. It seems our FLEK had a thing about photography, so not a stretch..I will investigate her later and post.



https://plus.google.com/102651315967662692666/posts
http://www.linkedin.com/in/cedarrose

linked to this person who owns a management company in California?
http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Santa-Monica/cedar-management-llc/46324566.aspx

 

[fred&edna]

I have yet to go looking for the new subforum--not sure where it is or if I'm in it already, :facepalm:



I don't recall seeing anyone mention this, but Mountain Bell more or less covered the Mountain Time zone. If on the east coast, the Mountain Time Zone is 2 hours behind. If in the Mountain Time Zone, there are no continental US time zones that are "3 hours less" (if you're in AZ during the summer (Daylight Savings Time is not observed, so they're basically on Pacific time), then the Hawaii Time Zone is 3 hours earlier).

I lean towards it being a very sloppy "13", which is (as another poster pointed out in the previous, 81-page thread ) the non-DST offset of time between Texas (UTC -6) and Thailand (UTC +7)... though Texas is not even in Mountain time, so IDEK :banghead:

Funny, that the possible "(13" almost looks like a "(B" to me... but "(B hours less)" makes even less sense... :banghead::banghead:

tcg

I'm confused... three hours less is correct (east coast to west coast). I think I need to go back and look at her "notes".

Nevermind... I see that if Mountain Bell is connected to the three hours less... it makes no sense.

 

[ClaireNC]

I have yet to go looking for the new subforum--not sure where it is or if I'm in it already, (respectfully snipped)

Hi True Crime Gal! Welcome! Great post. I also copied it into The Notes Page thread for further discussion. We are all learning to navigate the new sub forum.

Here is the link to the Note Page thread.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9663433&posted=1#post9663433

 

[kdsmith21]

Oh, and before I get off that topic. I remember in the late eighties/early nineties, I had to go to the Library and use Criss-Cross directories to find phone numbers. Has anyone looked into these in the cities that the area codes came back to?

Oh, Looks like the Library of Congress has a collection: http://www.loc.gov/rr/business/directories/crisscross.html

Wikipedia has an excellent resource listing all area codes in numerical order, what cities they were and what year they were split with another code and/or replaced...
List of North American Numbering Plan area codes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This leads me to the note being from 1984 to 1987? 1988 is when the Attorney Ben Perkins was disbarred- January 1988 - not sure why she would write his number down after he was disbarred, but you never know.. the California area code 818 was created in 1984 and split from area code 213 -- which dates the note from 1984 or later

 

[mandiedq]

Has anyone searched the city directories of the cities below for those years? Old phonebooks, newspapers for same? All sources should be found at the local main library in each area

lived in Scottsdale, Arizona, before moving to Dallas in 1987
Late 1980’s – Had a PO Box in Boulder City, Nevada
May 20, 1988 - Jane Doe gets a copy of Becky Sue’s birth certificate from Kern County, Calif.
June 16, 1988 - Jane Doe obtains an Idaho ID card with her picture and Becky Sue’s name. She now has government ID “proving” she’s Becky Sue. (Idaho ID using Becky Sue Turner's name)

The problem is knowing what search terms to use. I have access through our library to a searchable newspaper archive; however, without the proper search terms it would be fruitless. Let me know what you'd like me to look up.

 

[kdsmith21]

I have yet to go looking for the new subforum--not sure where it is or if I'm in it already, :facepalm:



I don't recall seeing anyone mention this, but Mountain Bell more or less covered the Mountain Time zone. If on the east coast, the Mountain Time Zone is 2 hours behind. If in the Mountain Time Zone, there are no continental US time zones that are "3 hours less" (if you're in AZ during the summer (Daylight Savings Time is not observed, so they're basically on Pacific time), then the Hawaii Time Zone is 3 hours earlier).

I lean towards it being a very sloppy "13", which is (as another poster pointed out in the previous, 81-page thread ) the non-DST offset of time between Texas (UTC -6) and Thailand (UTC +7)... though Texas is not even in Mountain time, so IDEK :banghead:



Funny, that the possible "(13" almost looks like a "(B" to me... but "(B hours less)" makes even less sense... :banghead::banghead:

tcg

This map shows Arizona 3 hours less than the East Coast (Eastern Time)http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-usa12.php...and Arizona is also Mountain Standard Time and Mountain Bell -which is written on her note.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-usa12.php

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Another possibility:

Maybe she WAS adopted and left that family for whatever reason. Maybe she found her bio family and was rejected or she found out they were dead. Or maybe when she was younger, her name was changed for some reason. Maybe she knew or found out her birth name and found a way to get it back. Maybe her birth name was LEK and she took it back.

Maybe this puts us back on the stockbroker track?

 

[Owutatangledweb]

The stockbroker angle. Didn't have time to look further or research the family. Timing is right.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-09-07/local/me-1401_1_james-earl-davis

 

[Owutatangledweb]

More possibilities. California, Colorado, Utah, Idaho connections. The amount of stockbroker fraud in the 1980s was apparently phenominal and this lead could take you on a million tangents!

http://www.patrickpretty.com/2009/1...gations-reminiscent-of-asdgolden-panda-cases/

 

[Owutatangledweb]

I know this sentence came two years after LEK's death, but the case was a long time in the making. 402 months I believe is 33.5 years. This guy got 33 years.

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2012/mar/11/this-time-lochmiller-gets-33-years/

 

[killarney rose]

The stockbroker angle. Didn't have time to look further or research the family. Timing is right.

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-09-07/local/me-1401_1_james-earl-davis

Regarding this case or a similar one, what if she worked for a company like this, no family involvement, but she fled to create a new identity to avoid prosecution?

 

[Bsublime]

This map shows Arizona 3 hours less than the East Coast (Eastern Time)http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-usa12.php...and Arizona is also Mountain Standard Time and Mountain Bell -which is written on her note.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-usa12.php

Actually, most of Arizona doesn't follow daylight savings time. So depending on the time of the year, it is either 3 hours earlier that the east coast (i.e., same as Pacific time) or 2 hours different from the east coast (i.e., same as Mountain time) this TOTALLY confuses me when I am trying to set up conference calls.

 

[SideKick]

On the Texas Drivers Licences, for Kennedy the expiry is July 18, 1997. Her photo is fairly young looking.
On the licence for Lori Ruff the expiry is also July 18, 1997 with a more mature look. Unless she married in the same year, this is impossible.