Found Deceased TX - Maleah Davis, 4, Houston, 5 May 2019 *EX-FIANCÉ ARRESTED* #11

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  • #41
http://www.click2houston.com/news/no-stone-unturned-acevedo-says-investigation-of-maleah-davis-death-is-ongoing?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=

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“Cowards with no soul just dumped her like she’s roadkill, and I’m just grateful we were able to bring her home,” Acevedo said.

Maleah’s remains were found after community activist Quanell X said her stepfather, Derion Vence, who is being held in jail on an evidence tampering charge, confessed to dumping her body in Arkansas.

Acevedo said he is not worried about whether Vence’s confession will stand up in court.

“When he told Quanell X, we already knew who the suspect was,” Acevedo said.

As for other suspects, Acevedo said the department’s investigation will look into all angles of the case, including allegations of abuse or institutional failings.

“We want to leave no stone unturned to get to the bottom of what happened to that child,” Acevedo said.
No Stone Unturned. Working Tirelessly for Maleah. Get all the Cowards.
 
  • #42
You are right they may not have any cause to subpoena hers. I believe LE asked her to voluntarily provide her phone during one of the interviews. I can not see any plausible excuse for her refusing, what concerned mother would. Even if she is involved it would be a huge red flag to refuse. Perhaps what was retrieved solidified their belief DV was involved i.e. the disturbing text messages QX mentioned.

That is what I tend to think. LE when asked has been extremely noncommittal about her. I think she has cooperated. I think she may if anything try to somewhat gloss her knowledge of his prior abuse and in defense of leaving the children with him/staying with him.

Again I get the other thoughts but I just think these things point to the fact they have her phone info. She may well also have signed an authorization allowing them to pull records from the company itself.

He, on the other hand, if they had reason for a subpoena, did not cooperate is my guess or his phone is missing. Maybe they would still follow up with actual records, I don't know?

She allegedly was trying to reach him from the time she landed through Saturday. The records should verify that account as well.
 
  • #43
Warning--long post

While I know she is not popular, and I smh at some of her actions, it is my belief they have her phone or have looked at it and she has cooperated that way. We know at minimum she had contact back and forth with her mother at the airport so likely had her own phone and was trying to reach him Friday and Saturday and it was his phone/him that could not be reached and he that was missing apparently Friday and Saturday.


I believe she could have covered his prior abuse, I can believe it possible she may have abused herself but in no way know that, but I do not believe she was involved in the murder of Maleah.

At minimum they found I believe blood in the hallway and bathroom, he was seen with cleaning supplies. I do not think he would have waited if Maleah died the day BB left to clean blood, etc. as he had other children in the apartment over the next days and there was also always the chance CPS could stop by.

I also do not believe he would cover for her, he would save himself if blaming her would work; I think he is well aware the facts do not support trying to say that. He and his family did not hesitate to call her a bad mom, make DV sound like wonderful dad (gag) and to me it is clear he would not cover for her imo. I think she would maybe cover for him and his possible abuse, I do not think he would for her.

I also do not think she left the airport, picked him up, dropped him off and parked the car and returned to the airport. I suspect others with regard to that. I think LE would darned well know by now if she left the airport and returned.

Snipped and bolded by me. I think I agree with your perspective about BB not being directly involved in the murder, but I think the bolded part could be a differently story. I don't think she would have had to return to the airport at any time if she played any part in what happened with the car (not saying she did or did not). She hung around at the airport late Friday night and early Saturday, then was picked up by BB2. There was some fussing around trying to get into the apartment, possibly contacting missing persons and maybe talking to DV's brother.

I think that while this was all going on was when DV was driving up the Arkansas and then back, starting after 7 on Friday evening and ending at some point before the car was spotted on the Sugarland traffic cam on Saturday afternoon.

At some point on Saturday after DV drove back into town, he and BB could have met up, at which point she COULD HAVE dropped him at the hospital later that evening and then taken the car someplace else, eventually dropping it at the Dollar Store parking lot or passing it off to someone else who did. She never would have had to return to the airport for this timeline to fit, since it all happened throughout Saturday and beyond.

I don't think she is the only possibility for who dropped him off and handled getting the car away, though. I'm also wondering about that sighting of DV on Saturday night by the neighbor who saw him smoking and not having a forehead bruise. Where was BB then?
 
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Was there not a mention early on too of her sister or someone stopping to try to check on the kids like midweek and he would not let her or to take them? I have not seen mention of it since so it could have been a reporting error. At the time, I had the impression maybe she sent someone over to be sure things were okay.

Not defending her but these things were stated.

I remember this too and I could be mistaken but I think it was us talking about what she SHOULD have done while she was in MA if she had any inkling that the kids were not safe with DV. You could be remembering something in MSM I didn't see, though. AFAIK the only people that we currently know visited the apartment from Tuesday - Friday were CD and his sister on Friday evening.
 
  • #45
That is what I tend to think. LE when asked has been extremely noncommittal about her. I think she has cooperated. I think she may if anything try to somewhat gloss her knowledge of his prior abuse and in defense of leaving the children with him/staying with him.

Again I get the other thoughts but I just think these things point to the fact they have her phone info. She may well also have signed an authorization allowing them to pull records from the company itself.

He, on the other hand, if they had reason for a subpoena, did not cooperate is my guess or his phone is missing. Maybe they would still follow up with actual records, I don't know?

She allegedly was trying to reach him from the time she landed through Saturday. The records should verify that account as well.
I thought that I had read or seen on video that they were texting (arguing) while she was gone about the photos he supposedly sent out. Anyone remember this? Or could point me to the correct video?
 
  • #46
Warning--long post

While I know she is not popular, and I smh at some of her actions, it is my belief they have her phone or have looked at it and she has cooperated that way. We know at minimum she had contact back and forth with her mother at the airport so likely had her own phone and was trying to reach him Friday and Saturday and it was his phone/him that could not be reached and he that was missing apparently Friday and Saturday.

Of note too is that the article states his phone records were subpoenaed, not hers. They must not have any cause to subpoena hers would be my guess.

I may be in the minority but I believe because she was due home he was in panic mode and hiding Maleah's body and hiding from BB and in need of a story fast. LE knew nothing at that point as far as we know so his reason almost had to be to hide his actions and Maleah's death from BB. And what a story he came up with. I also believe there is proof LE has that shows Maleah was alive after BB left the state. I did not think that at first but I do now.

I believe she could have covered his prior abuse, I can believe it possible she may have abused herself but in no way know that, but I do not believe she was involved in the murder of Maleah.

At minimum they found I believe blood in the hallway and bathroom, he was seen with cleaning supplies. I do not think he would have waited if Maleah died the day BB left to clean blood, etc. as he had other children in the apartment over the next days and there was also always the chance CPS could stop by.

I also do not believe he would cover for her, he would save himself if blaming her would work; I think he is well aware the facts do not support trying to say that. He and his family did not hesitate to call her a bad mom, make DV sound like wonderful dad (gag) and to me it is clear he would not cover for her imo. I think she would maybe cover for him and his possible abuse, I do not think he would for her.

The defense is probably left with lining up for stress caused by claims of all the care for the children, him snapping and/or possibly an accident as a likely defense, which I do not believe it was. He attacked the child like always and this time he killed her, maybe even with intent to do so.

I also do not think she left the airport, picked him up, dropped him off and parked the car and returned to the airport. I suspect others with regard to that. I think LE would darned well know by now if she left the airport and returned.

This is not a defense of her--I generally am one that believes there is more to a story but in this case I just feel the facts outlined above all fit that it was him imo, at least with regard to the actual murder.

With regard to prior abuse and covering it up, that I leave open and with regard to her actions after as well. Even Q's remarks about her guilt seem to relate to knowledge of how DV abused Maleah, not about the murder.

LE would know by now all they need about her flights, her time at the airport and more. There has to be more video as well I suspect. He would have left the home at minimum every weekday she was gone with the boys and returned. There should also be video of BB leaving and I would think of she and her mother at the apartment the night of her flight unable to get in and so forth...?

All if true of course and jmo and I could be totally wrong and end up with egg on my face... It wouldn't be the first time in life :)

His main concern is that all know he is not gay :rolleyes: I wonder how his attorney feels about him giving interviews? I thought they always advised to just keep quiet...

Apologize for length. And I will duck. And on another day I may change my opinion but that is how I see it now :) All jmo.
I agree with you, I don't think BB was involved in the murder.

I do think she is guilty of enabling the situation and covering up for past abuse. And I do believe DV was more important to her than her own children. Basically, I do believe she is a terrible mother, and that her actions contributed to the death of Maleah. I also think she knows more than she is letting on.

But yeah, I don't think she directly killed Maleah, but she did put her in the position in which she was in danger.
 
  • #47
In the convo string with her sister BB states that she wasn't speaking with her Mom BB2 because Mom asked her if she was involved with Meleah's disappearance....

I believe it reveals mom thinks BB capable of disappearing her daughter -- and those are powerful thoughts and words. :eek:

MOO
I personally think F2f loved Malea h very much. I remember reading somewhere BB would not let the kids from seeing her as so.e form of punishment.
 
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  • #48
I agree with you, I don't think BB was involved in the murder.

I do think she is guilty of enabling the situation and covering up for past abuse. And I do believe DV was more important to her than her own children. Basically, I do believe she is a terrible mother, and that her actions contributed to the death of Maleah. I also think she knows more than she is letting on.

But yeah, I don't think she directly killed Maleah, but she did put her in the position in which she was in danger.

I also think she was involved in the cover-up and knew what happened to MD very early on. I think she saw DV on Saturday before he went to the hospital. Moo
 
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  • #49
I remember that as well and is part of my basis for what I lean towards. I could not remember if it was said she had provided them or they were about to provide them. He mentioned I think as well texts from DV that were worrisome.

Was there not a mention early on too of her sister or someone stopping to try to check on the kids like midweek and he would not let her or to take them? I have not seen mention of it since so it could have been a reporting error. At the time, I had the impression maybe she sent someone over to be sure things were okay.

Not defending her but these things were stated.
You might be thinking of Maleah's natural father. He and (I think) his sister came by on Friday to pick the older son up for visitation. When they asked to see Maleah, DV told them she was sick.
Later BB said in an interview that she was not aware that he wanted to pick her up that weekend. Imo
 
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  • #50
Why are some of my posts coming out wrong.
 
  • #51
I have a new mission. Every single stinkin article I read about DV the stepfather I'm going to message them. "DV is no relation to Maleah. He is her mother's boyfriend." That might put me in a better mood. Agh.
 
  • #52
Snipped and bolded by me. I think I agree with your perspective about BB not being directly involved in the murder, but I think the bolded part could be a differently story. I don't think she would have had to return to the airport at any time if she played any part in what happened with the car (not saying she did or did not). She hung around at the airport late Friday night and early Saturday, then was picked up by BB2. There was some fussing around trying to get into the apartment, possibly contacting missing persons and maybe talking to DV's brother.

I think that while this was all going on was when DV was driving up the Arkansas and then back, starting after 7 on Friday evening and ending at some point before the car was spotted on the Sugarland traffic cam on Saturday afternoon.

At some point on Saturday after DV drove back into town, he and BB could have met up, at which point she COULD HAVE dropped him at the hospital later that evening and then taken the car someplace else, eventually dropping it at the Dollar Store parking lot or passing it off to someone else who did. She never would have had to return to the airport for this timeline to fit, since it all happened throughout Saturday and beyond.

I don't think she is the only possibility for who dropped him off and handled getting the car away, though. I'm also wondering about that sighting of DV on Saturday night by the neighbor who saw him smoking and not having a forehead bruise. Where was BB then?

Good points and I would have to look back but I think I did mention things before or after the murder, I leave open where she is concerned.

You are correct, the hospital and likely car parking was Saturday. Any of it is certainly a possibility.

I would suspect BB and BB2 have been interviewed, likely more than once. If DV had the car and BB allegedly did not, I would imagine she would have had to depend on mom to get around. Whether the two were together 24/7 through that period of time is anyone's guess but if they were, there are probably things that corroborate that. They went back to the apartment on Saturday, for instance, and LE was present as to how they got the manager to let them in. I think BB was with mom and dependent on mom for transportation so it would likely involve BB2 lying as well or they know by now where BB was this entire period of time (LE I mean).

I see your point but I just think it is unlikely from that point on, although it certainly is possible. As I said, I am pretty much open, particularly as we learn more information, I do not think I have seen much for speculation that is not certainly a possibility.

The neighbor seeing him is certainly food for thought, BB could have been with him and took him from there to the hospital upon hearing his story and met him at the apartment is what you are suggesting? I still think by now LE knows or there is video if such occurred. She did say she wanted to believe his story, that is one true statement I believe she has made. I think she wants and prefers denial of what he did quite honestly.

I myself do not believe she was there though. It is a month past and maybe LE would keep it to themselves but she I guarantee has talked with LE, now the brother on the other hand, who knows... He sure did skedaddle and so did DV prior to that to his family's the way it sounded.

I also wonder about the remark of seeing him on Saturday by a neighbor. I think we only saw it in one article if I recall? Was the car there did she say, I don't recall? For BB to be there, she would I think either have to be picked up by him at her mom's, have her mom's car parked there or have her mom or someone drop her there? Of course, it was never said what they did once they got into the apartment Saturday morning (she and her mom), did Brittany stay home with no car? That part is missing isn't it? I believe she went back to her mom's because Sunday DV and BB were at her mom's right and shortly thereafter he hightailed it out of there likely hiding out with his family? I think it was also Sunday that LE was given permission to enter the apartment without a warrant (by BB and DV it sounded like). It was in an article, I don't have the link.

All jmo. Great points and I still think about all such things, just leaning one way at the moment, I have definitely not closed out other possibilities. I do think though that LE has these answers.

It also could be the very common case of BB is a witness they need against DV and if convinced she was not involved in the murder...
 
  • #53
I find this so very odd too. TM put his heart and soul into finding her daughter, and not once has she shown any thanks. If it was me I would be overwhelmed with gratitude that he, in part, brought her home and showed so much love and care into the process.
MOO



Perhaps she didn't want her found. BB is just weird with her lack of motherly emotion. IMO. Sad!
 
  • #54
How is it that she didn't have keys to the apartment?
 
  • #55
The neighbor seeing him is certainly food for thought, BB could have been with him and took him from there to the hospital upon hearing his story and met him at the apartment is what you are suggesting? I still think by now LE knows or there is video if such occurred. She did say she wanted to believe his story, that is one true statement I believe she has made. I think she wants and prefers denial of what he did quite honestly.
I'm thinking about a lot of the same things. I'm not sure about what the neighbor's reported sighting really tells us, like does it make it more likely that DV and BB had met up by that point in the day? I do think it's interesting that (IF the neighbor's sighting is true and definitely happened on Saturday) DV was apparently hanging around the apartment smoking instead of rushing around in the state a lot of people might be in if their fiancee's 4-year-old had died under their care recently. I'm fairly confident he had returned from Arkansas at that point, so he wouldn't have been worried about Maleah's body anymore. But he also must not have been worried about hiding, or getting to the hospital to get his coverup story started, or talking to or avoiding the police who may or may not have been called by then. Was he waiting for something to happen before he went to the hospital?? What or who? Maybe BB had the car for a few hours on Saturday afternoon and evening and he had to wait for her to get dropped off? If so what was she doing?
 
  • #56
I agree with you, I don't think BB was involved in the murder.

I do think she is guilty of enabling the situation and covering up for past abuse. And I do believe DV was more important to her than her own children. Basically, I do believe she is a terrible mother, and that her actions contributed to the death of Maleah. I also think she knows more than she is letting on.

But yeah, I don't think she directly killed Maleah, but she did put her in the position in which she was in danger.

That is pretty close to where I am at as well. Her decisions were certainly not good ones. Most mothers would guilt themselves for those decisions and we see none of that in her. Even entirely innocent mothers would be guilting themselves and saying if only, if only. That is missing here.
 
  • #57
They wouldn't have to if she turned it over willingly, and if that's the case I doubt they would reveal that to the public. They have hardly shared anything regarding the investigation, except a few things that verified what Q had already talked about publicly, such as the blood and video evidence. Imo
I think they’d still want her records to prove her locations. Some texts and/or apps can’t be recovered but the records might be able to at least prove they were used.
 
  • #58
I agree with you, I don't think BB was involved in the murder.

I do think she is guilty of enabling the situation and covering up for past abuse. And I do believe DV was more important to her than her own children. Basically, I do believe she is a terrible mother, and that her actions contributed to the death of Maleah. I also think she knows more than she is letting on.

But yeah, I don't think she directly killed Maleah, but she did put her in the position in which she was in danger.

My thoughts exactly
 
  • #59
I have a new mission. Every single stinkin article I read about DV the stepfather I'm going to message them. "DV is no relation to Maleah. He is her mother's boyfriend." That might put me in a better mood. Agh.

I so agree with this.
 
  • #60
I thought that I had read or seen on video that they were texting (arguing) while she was gone about the photos he supposedly sent out. Anyone remember this? Or could point me to the correct video?

Forgive me if already answered.

I remember it and it was in the first appearance with QX I believe. Yet later (recently) he has mentioned it and it almost sounded like he was referring to her first trip out to her father's...--before this trip where Maleah died? So I have some confusion on that.
 
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