Found Deceased TX - Marisela Botello, 23, visiting Dallas from Seattle, 5 Oct 2020 *arrest*

[Knox]

Nina is Not Indigent... she is in Contempt of Court with this lie too

How do we know she's not indigent, thanks.

 

[AzaleaPA]

I personally know her. She is an attorney herself making the big bucks(but has been a fugitive since the murder). Just before her arrest she sold her house in cash for $286,000(No mortgage)
The judge must have denied her indigent claim (due to that 3/17/2021 house sale bc NOW she Is hiring a lawyer or will represent herself like her Co defendant Lisa. Texas magistrates have heard it ALL & don’t take the BS

 

[Niner]

Wondering if Marano is licensed to practice in Texas though?

And thank you @AzaleaPA for all the stuff you posted. I looked up Beltran again & this time two old cases against him came up. But nothing yet for the murder. I guess he is still in Utah jail.

@AzaleaPA - since you say you know Marana personally - you might want to become an "insider" - that way you don't have to link to articles re her. Link here:
Verified Professional and Insider Members

 

[AzaleaPA]

And thank you @AzaleaPA for all the stuff you posted. I looked up Beltran again & this time two old cases against him came up. But nothing yet for the murder. I guess he is still in Utah jail.

@AzaleaPA - since you say you know Marana personally - you might want to become an "insider" - that way you don't have to link to articles re her. Link here:
Verified Professional and Insider Members[/QUOTE]

 

[AzaleaPA]

I don’t think she is licensed in Texas. NY & Florida Bar for sure(she started practicing 2012/13 in Florida for Real at Bogin Munns where she met Lisa Dykes who was a paralegal & still is) I’m new to this. Everyone who is friends & family are shocked but now we are realizing that she was always a little out there & full of herself.. very adaptable to being Fake... so disappointed. Many of us are realizing that her husbands death was pretty untimely & those who know the back story of their marriage are really suspicious that the (threesome) 3 of them determined to getting her husband out of the picture( but that would be a case for the Staten Island, NY DA(Richmond County)).
Poor 23 yr old beautiful girl had NO chance... they tag teamed her & then ALL ran... plus the Audi car shows up in NYC Dec(2 months later) neither Dykes or Beltran report a nice car like that lost or stolen... fugitives for a reason

 

[AzaleaPA]

Link for verification is:
Inmate Lookup Tool for:
Salt lake Sheriff site to search for inmates
(iml.slsheriff.org/IML)
It appears in the center of the page that Charles Beltran is still being held in Utah for being a “Fugitive” it doesn’t state a “capital murder” charges or a release date... the info can be confusing bc at first I thought he was ROR but then there is location for him(Utah DOC) so Texas will come get him

 

[iQuill]

Wow! Just wow! Truth is stranger than fiction. You can’t make this stuff up! The relationship between the three is hard to figure out ... and why did they want Marisela? Rip pretty girl, we are sure there will be justice and these three won’t be getting anymore young girls to feed there nasty needs! Moo

 

[Knox]

I personally know her. She is an attorney herself making the big bucks(but has been a fugitive since the murder). Just before her arrest she sold her house in cash for $286,000(No mortgage)
The judge must have denied her indigent claim (due to that 3/17/2021 house sale bc NOW she Is hiring a lawyer or will represent herself like her Co defendant Lisa. Texas magistrates have heard it ALL & don’t take the BS

Wow, hey thanks for that bit of info!! Does that indicate what sort of a lawyer she is, cuz if so she might want to hire someone a little more knowledgeable in the law
How could she think a real estate transaction wouldn't show up, regardless if it was a cash sale?

 

[Knox]

I don’t think she is licensed in Texas. NY & Florida Bar for sure(she started practicing 2012/13 in Florida for Real at Bogin Munns where she met Lisa Dykes who was a paralegal & still is) I’m new to this. Everyone who is friends & family are shocked but now we are realizing that she was always a little out there & full of herself.. very adaptable to being Fake... so disappointed. Many of us are realizing that her husbands death was pretty untimely & those who know the back story of their marriage are really suspicious that the (threesome) 3 of them determined to getting her husband out of the picture( but that would be a case for the Staten Island, NY DA(Richmond County)).
Poor 23 yr old beautiful girl had NO chance... they tag teamed her & then ALL ran... plus the Audi car shows up in NYC Dec(2 months later) neither Dykes or Beltran report a nice car like that lost or stolen... fugitives for a reason

I'm only asking for your opinion, not insider information- what would the motive be? Was this something sexual that went wrong?

I read NM's late husband's obit, seems he was deeply loved by everyone who knew him. I don't recall seeing how he died, but thought it was an accident of some kind.

 

[AzaleaPA]

Hi,
NM husband was adored by all & a giver. He was also a devout Mormon(law & order type of guy) what he said to me was that The Devil can Not exist with Christ & ALL things Good... Bill died of what they called at the time a medical episode while driving his vehicle home from the LDS Mormon Temple that night. He was a very healthy 82 yr old man(no one believed he was 82 at the funeral!!) Nina was very distant to everyone & I think there was a plan in place bc all marital assets were liquidated inside of months(houses, cars, etc) We All thought his sudden death was suspicious since we All found out about the extramarital affairs, threesomes & Bill was in love with Nina but it was becoming lackluster but it was a gut punch to Bill. He supported her through 8-10 of college(Columbia & BYU) pizzerias, travel, 4-5 houses, cars; he bought cars loved collectible cars too(she sold everything) 5-6 vehicles & was stockpiling the money Bc he discovered a very large cash theft(Bill was old fashioned-saving money in the home) but she also stole & closed bank accounts too. It was textbook elder abuse... she could not destroy his relationship with GOD so she destroyed him All other ways!! I’m still in denial myself with The Santa Murte peice... ALOT of material evidence to support that also... Bill was in the Way.... Marisela, rest her young soul got caught up in their web and for ALL we know whatever else was going on. I inderstand Texas Team is going to get justice for Marisela & when that happens Bills family & friends will feel justice as well. Bill was 82, he was a runner (marathoner) very healthy clean diet(some cheating lol) and a vegetable/fruit juicer. He was a grandfather & A great grandfather(the family was good to Nina & considered her like G-Ma!!) Nina made her choice
The devil was Ninas choice & now she will have to live like an animal... or worse

 

[Dre]

Hey @AzaleaPA thank you so much for your contributions to this thread. At some point though a mod will likely swipe your posts since you don’t have links as sources- by going through this process: Verified Professional and Insider Members
You can post without having to source. Pretty please consider it!

 

[Nancy19XX]

If I recall, when you request a court appointed attorney you must fill out a form with all your financial information (how much cash you have, in the bank, cars, houses, and any other potential assets). You then have to go in front of the judge who can question you on those things and then will make a decision if you're considered indignant or not. Again just MOE from a more personal case I followed.

 

[Niner]

for Dykes:

DA CASE ID F-2175651 JUDCL CASE ID
A010 DEF NAME DYKES L C010 DEF NAME
J U D I C I A L I N F O R M A T I O N
A010-020-030-040 FILE DATE 000000
DEF NAME DYKES_LISA_JO______________________ RACE W SEX F DOB 05251963 AGE 57
DEF ADR1***************************************** AC ___ PH _______ SS ***********************
DEF CITY DEVEN_PORT__________ ST TX ZIP 33837 DLNUM ************** DLST __
OFF TAMP_W/PHY_EVIDENCE_CORPSE__ DT 100520 TYP/CL F 2 GOC/CAT _ _ CODE VA000200
COMT __________ SID NUM ________ OF AMT ________
COMPLAINANT *********************************** TAPE # 0____ ARREST DATE 041421
JUV STAT N REPEAT OFFENDER N CAREER OFFENDER N ORIG-LOC DSO____ CURR-LOC J
FILING AGENCY*************** SER/CAS NO******************** ARREST NUM ______________
LAI NUM******************** AIS/DSO NO******************** BOOKIN NUM ______21013545
JP FILE DATE 000000 JP CASE ID __________ JP COURT ID __ FED _ EVH _ AFF _
MAGISTRATE DATE 000000 MAGIS COURT __ MAGIS JUDGE _________ BOUND OVER _
EXAM TRIAL DATE 000000 EXAM COURT __ EXAM JUDGE _________ IND METH ___
GJ/H/R DT ______ _ GJ# ________ GJ/W/FILE ______ GJ DS _ DA DSP _ ACC _ REAS _
DA DISPOS DATE 000000 MISDEMEANOR REDUCTION _ SENTENCE PROBATED _
JUDCL CASE ID _________ GJ CT __ PROS STAT _ ___ PROS NAME _______________
COURT ASSIGNED TO FQ DATE ASSIGNED 041621 ASSIGNED BY O REASON B
PRECEEDING DA CASE ID ___________ SUCCEEDING DA CASE ID ___________
TRN __________ TRS ____ WARRANT STATUS _ STATE OFF CD 73991058__

link: https://www.dallascounty.org/criminalBackgroundSearch/defendant_detail?ln=03



Nothing yet for Beltran.

 

[sandy11382]

I don’t think she is licensed in Texas. NY & Florida Bar for sure(she started practicing 2012/13 in Florida for Real at Bogin Munns where she met Lisa Dykes who was a paralegal & still is) I’m new to this. Everyone who is friends & family are shocked but now we are realizing that she was always a little out there & full of herself.. very adaptable to being Fake... so disappointed. Many of us are realizing that her husbands death was pretty untimely & those who know the back story of their marriage are really suspicious that the (threesome) 3 of them determined to getting her husband out of the picture( but that would be a case for the Staten Island, NY DA(Richmond County)).
Poor 23 yr old beautiful girl had NO chance... they tag teamed her & then ALL ran... plus the Audi car shows up in NYC Dec(2 months later) neither Dykes or Beltran report a nice car like that lost or stolen... fugitives for a reason

I thought they were related (same name)?

 

[Dre]

I thought they were related (same name)?

No. No one is particularly sure what the relation is between the three, but there has been some speculation that some if not all 3 were "intimately" involved. Hoping that LE or reporters will soon clear this up as the investigation moves further. moo

 

[evilwise]

If I recall, when you request a court appointed attorney you must fill out a form with all your financial information (how much cash you have, in the bank, cars, houses, and any other potential assets). You then have to go in front of the judge who can question you on those things and then will make a decision if you're considered indignant or not. Again just MOE from a more personal case I followed.

That's the thing about having a lot of cash, it's very difficult for other people (or the court) to prove how much you have. This proclivity to having a lot of cash necessitates a willingness to defend it. Marisella doesn't strike me as the kind of person who might try to make off with a quarter million dollars in cash but under unusual circumstances, people can act unusually. It's not impossible (especially in Texas) that the killing might have been lawful though concealing it certainly was not.

 

[Knox]

That's the thing about having a lot of cash, it's very difficult for other people (or the court) to prove how much you have. This proclivity to having a lot of cash necessitates a willingness to defend it. Marisella doesn't strike me as the kind of person who might try to make off with a quarter million dollars in cash but under unusual circumstances, people can act unusually. It's not impossible (especially in Texas) that the killing might have been lawful though concealing it certainly was not.

Hmmn, it would seem Marisela knew CB for only a few hours at most? To insinuate she may have found out about some cash in the home and tried to steal it, is IMO a big stretch. Surely it wasn't kept in the refrigerator or anywhere else out in the open where it would be easily accessed?

I'm having a hard time coming up with anything other than a sexual motive for killing and hiding her body.

 

[evilwise]

Hmmn, it would seem Marisela knew CB for only a few hours at most? To insinuate she may have found out about some cash in the home and tried to steal it, is IMO a big stretch. Surely it wasn't kept in the refrigerator or anywhere else out in the open where it would be easily accessed?

I'm having a hard time coming up with anything other than a sexual motive for killing and hiding her body.

Beltran seems to me like the type who would flaunt cash. There are as many reason to kill someone as there are stars in the sky and only about 1/3 of them are sexual. The motive in this one is murky for sure and law enforcement doesn't seem to be interested in clearing it up for us.

 

[mlhenn]

I thought they were related (same name)?

I don’t know how these three are connected (relatives, friends, etc). Below is from an article I posted last week I believe, but who knows if they published the correct info or if they too are just assuming...

“She and two of her relatives, Charles Beltran, 31, and Lisa Beltran, 57, are facing capital murder charges in Dallas in the killing of Marisela Botello Valadez, 23, a Seattle resident who vanished on Oct. 5 after a night out in Deep Ellum, police said.”

 

[AzaleaPA]

Hmmn, it would seem Marisela knew CB for only a few hours at most? To insinuate she may have found out about some cash in the home and tried to steal it, is IMO a big stretch. Surely it wasn't kept in the refrigerator or anywhere else out in the open where it would be easily accessed?

I'm having a hard time coming up with anything other than a sexual motive for killing and hiding her body.

Definitely sexual motive (not a cash motive) girls get roofeed All the time... Marisela prob never had a chance
Poor kid!!! Her family def heartbroken