TX - Mass Shooting at Fort Hood, 5 November 2009 #2 *Guilty*

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...errorists.html

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Five of the 13 victims were fellow mental health professionals from three units of the army's Combat Stress Control Detachment, it was disclosed yesterday.


I have heard no one say he knew any of these people. Ft Hood has three mental health facilities. Even these 5 may have not known this monster. It has been the other psychiatrists at Walter Reed that have been vocal about Hasan, after the massacre, when he was at Walter Reed before he was transferred to Ft. Hood. He came to Ft Hood this year.

The Army Commander said at the last PC that he had not learned when Hasan was to have been deployed. I believe no units are being deployed until the first of the year. Being deployed or not had nothing to do with this, imo.

His dead victims run the gambit from 19 years old to 62 years old and so does their professional classifications. He did not discriminate, he tried to kill as many as he saw before he was brought down. These soldiers all had one thing in common, they were all United States Army except one who was a medical assistant and the only civilian.

Now none of this has anything to do with the soldiers who were massacred by a terrorist and whether they should receive the purple heart. EACH AND EVERYONE of them deserves this honor. They paid with their own blood. They represent America and freedom. They are no different than our other fallen heroes who are blown up by a suicide bomber. Terrorism is an act of war imo and it is those terrorists like Hasan that our fine men and women fight against every single day.

The Army wasn't the one investigating Hasan. It was the terrorist investigative team of the CIA. They never let the government or the Army know anything about Hasan and his ties to extremists. No one ever filed a complaint against him in the Army.

No one told anyone anything that was in the Army with him until it was already done.

I totally agree that political correctness is a bunch of BS. But it is the BS that has been pushed on America ever since 911 and our government still pushes it today.

I just don't understand your stance or logic that these unarmed soldiers who were massacred by an Islamic terrorist shouldn't be given the purple heart? What makes them undeserving of such a
medal?

imo
 
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I agree with you, OBE.

IMO, if it saves live to hurt someone's feelings then so be it.
If people suspect radical muslims in the army, they shouldn't be afraid to say something due to political correctness.
We shouldn't call them "enemy combatants", we should call them "terrorists".
Hasan was a terrorist on American soil. There are more like him out there in different professions. I can only hope that they will be reported by people that notice "signs" of extremist muslims or their "charitable organizations" they donate to that are really having the proceeds go to terrorism.

If not being politically correct saves lives, then it is worth it.
Extremist Muslims will refer to all non-muslim in not politically correct terms.

Maybe this will be a wake up call, idk. I can only hope that people will report suspicions more..

My prayers for the victims and their families.
I think they should get purple hearts, they were attacked by a terrorist who started a small one man war on American soil while crying out about allah.

I agree. Somehow after 911 we have lost our way and our commonsense. It has left way too many afraid to speak up even when they should because they are so afraid they will be labeled bigots and prejudice.

We have got to return to the strict discipline and tough standards that our military has always implemented for over 200 years. I hope this is an eye opener and they have learned a hard lesson that in the military there is no place for political correctness.

I know countless military people and most of them likes the toughest "bulldog" Drill Sgt. of all because they learned they had to rise to expectations where the military code of conduct meant everything. There were no excuses, no matter who the person was or their rank or religion affiliation. It has to be one for all and all for one. (America)

And I do believe that major changes are being discussed left and right by the military branches since this has happened and they are also going to convey that message to their CIC, loud and clear.

imo
 
  • #123
Yesterday I caught an update on HLN regarding Hasan's status which has been changed to pre-trial confinee and means he could be moved to another hospital or a military prison. His Lawyer, Col. John Galligan (RET.), stated that there was no immediate need to change Hasan's status and said something like -

the manner in which we treat Hasan will directly reflect the way the system of justice in our country is ultimately viewed in both the military and elsewhere.

So I'm thinking :twocents: we should shoot the guy and get it over with - is that this Lawyer's point?
Of course it isn't - un friggin believable.

Also the Lawyer stated that we should be concerned about the shooter's healing now; his tone being along the lines of we should just leave the poor guy alone. :banghead:

I'm feeling especially sorry for our young Soldiers now - not only are they expected to put their lives on the line for (? - too complicated to understand all the reasons) but they are expected to be able to judge the enemy's intentions prior to taking them prisoners. What the h? The result of any hesitation on their part while trying to follow orders is that our soldier gets killed. This is too much responsibility and too confusing for them - they need our support and backing. They need assurance that if they error on the side of caution for themselves, they will not be tried as criminals later. They are being put into a too tough situation (political correctness that stems from people who never were willing to put their own asses on the line imo). It is not fair imo. My heart goes out to all of our brave Soldiers and my prayer for them is to keep their sanity through this mess and know that the bulk of American people are behind them and recognize the nonsense. War is not pretty and NEWS FLASH there isn't a way to make it so.
 
  • #124
"One of two civilian police officers who brought down the Army psychiatrist accused of going on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood said her wounds from the attack will cut short her career as street police officer.

Sgt. Kimberly Munley said doctors have told her she needs a total knee replacement, a surgery set for January, but that her new knee is likely to wear out sooner if she runs or carries the 15- to 25-pound gear pack required by her job."

More at:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation_world/story/224091.html
 
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Sgt. Kimberly Munley has suffered a setback and may need bypass surgery due to circulation in her injured leg.

In a blog post Monday afternoon, Munley says she suffered a setback while preparing for knee replacement surgery next month. A doctor's visit today revealed that Munley is continuing to have circulation problems in her injured leg and that may lead to bypass surgery, according to Munley.

http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=11675648

Kim and her family are very dear friends of mine and I am so sad to learn of this setback. Please remember Kim and her family in your prayers.

wm
 
  • #127
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/FtHoodInvestigation/hasan-permanently-paralyzed-icu/story?id=9353524

Hasan Permanently Paralyzed, But Out of ICU

Nidal Hasan, the Army psychiatrist charged with murdering 13 people in last month's deadly Fort Hood shootings, has been left permanently paralyzed, but has recovered enough from his own wounds to be moved out of the intensive care unit.

Federal agents, military investigators and Texas Rangers are investigating whether the gun used in the Fort Hood massacre was purchased at the "Guns Galore" shop in Killeen, Texas, according to the store co-manager.
 
  • #128
When I file my taxes this year, I am putting a statement on them that not ONE CENT of my tax money shall go to this 🤬🤬🤬. NOT ONE CENT!!!!!!

Salem
 
  • #129
http://www.kdhnews.com/news/story.aspx?s=44972

Posted On: Tuesday, Oct. 5 2010 09:44 AM

Mental exam set for Fort Hood shooting suspect

The Army psychiatrist accused in last year's shooting rampage at Fort Hood is to have a mental evaluation before a key hearing to determine whether he will stand trial, a military commander ordered Monday.

More at link.
 
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/0...ment-over-fort-hood-shooting/?intcmp=trending

148 victims, family members sue government over Fort Hood shooting


Published November 05, 2012

Associated Press


The lawsuit alleging negligence by the government said that the Defense Department is avoiding legal and financial responsibility for the killings by referring to the shootings as "workplace violence" rather than as a terrorist attack.

The group also is suing the estate of Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical U.S.-born Islamic cleric who the victims say inspired the Army psychiatrist, Maj. Nidal Hasan, to carry out the attack.
 
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trial starts today!
 

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