Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 #1

[Razz]

They requested phone records from Papaw's account, which included BC and one of their sons as well. I don't know that anyone has asked about other communications within the family, other than to verify that specific numbers were owned by family (myself included, my mom, my aunt, uncles, my sisters, cousins, etc.) when they showed up in logs.

Ok. I'm confused about i-message logs. It appears to me from the above that they found Pawpa's phone records and 2 people who's numbers showed up during the time of MC's disappearance (Or somewhere around that time) were BC's and one of the son's phone numbers. Did they then request further records from both BC and the son? And how do we know if police may have found other interesting numbers on Pawpa's phone and subsequently on BC and the son's phone? And of course, timing is important too.

There could be a cache of info there. And who knows if other records gleaned from those 2 phones took police to another person. (Someone not in the family). There is no way the police will/would give up that information to anyone. Which leads me to believe they have possibly found other interesting phone numbers.

Just speculating but it sure makes sense to me.

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[dawny]

MC going to walmart that day gives some sort of time line. And what he purchased that day. Seems he went only for his wife. No, I don't think its unusual for someones husband to buy them makeup. Walmart is the only place MC stopped that day before returning home (according to police) & it was recorded on walmart cameras. Possibly someone wanted to get him away from his home at some point during that day? We know he returned home, the granddaughter confirmed that & said the makeup was found at the home also. I think both the husband and wife phones messages are very important. I would think months prior to this happening they would look into all that. Find out did his wife really need what she was asking for. She runs out of makeup the same day she returns to work, after being home for a period of time. But didnt make sure she had it prior to returning to work? I know that sounds far out there to say, but the smaller things have to be looked at also.

 

[Deleted member 50844]

It is VERY important to get whatever they can on the iMessages. When you use it, the messages don't show up on your regular bill. As in...some people use this when they don't want anyone who gets ahold of the bill to see what numbers that phone was texting with. I had a friend with this as a personal situation. Turns out their spouse had been communicating with someone iPhone to iPhone using iMessages for that very reason.

 

[knowthings]

Well sooner or later someone is going to spill the beans, no amount of hush money can prevent the tendency of the human being to feel the need to share a secret, especially if their lips have been loosened up by drugs or alcohol!


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[SavetheQueen]

Well sooner or later someone is going to spill the beans, no amount of hush money can prevent the tendency of the human being to feel the need to share a secret, especially if their lips have been loosened up by drugs or alcohol!


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The only things to tell the complete truth are children, drunks, and leggings.


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[LaneGirl]

The only things to tell the complete truth are children, dunks, and leggings.


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Hahahahaha!

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

One of PaPaw's daughters just posted on the BPH page the tip from someone who claimed to know PaPaw's location was taken seriously and the area was searched with the help of search dogs, but nothing was found ... :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...45894592508.2135639.1402459349&type=3&theater

 

[knowthings]

Well, if somebody was trying to get money from MC it hasn't happened yet, if they wanted him gone why not kill him in the workshop, something is amiss!!


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[SavetheQueen]

One of PaPaw's daughters just posted on the BPH page the tip from someone who claimed to know PaPaw's location was taken seriously and the area was searched with the help of search dogs, but nothing was found ... :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...45894592508.2135639.1402459349&type=3&theater

Dang.....


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[knowthings]

This case is sooo confusing, the Sheriff was a close friend of MC, very emotional when discussing his disappearance, "one of the best guys he knew" said that MC might have been protecting his wife, whatever that means and that he could have been abducted, signs of foul play. NOW he won't label it a criminal case so that TR and FBI can takeover, this is beginning to look shady, your GOOD friend and you don't want help finding him, WHY????


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[ninij9]

This case is sooo confusing, the Sheriff was a close friend of MC, very emotional when discussing his disappearance, "one of the best guys he knew" said that MC might have been protecting his wife, whatever that means and that he could have been abducted, signs of foul play. NOW he won't label it a criminal case so that TR and FBI can takeover, this is beginning to look shady, your GOOD friend and you don't want help finding him, WHY????


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I'm hearing that old song, "the night the lights went out in Georgia" when I think along these lines.. one reason you wouldn't want FBI help is if local LE has some things to hide? But thinking this just my imagination.

But seriously, for a few days now I feel like this one's going to blow wide open any minute now

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[Razz]

This case is sooo confusing, the Sheriff was a close friend of MC, very emotional when discussing his disappearance, "one of the best guys he knew" said that MC might have been protecting his wife, whatever that means and that he could have been abducted, signs of foul play. NOW he won't label it a criminal case so that TR and FBI can takeover, this is beginning to look shady, your GOOD friend and you don't want help finding him, WHY????


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Well, could be they already know who is/was involved. (And have for awhile now.)

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[knowthings]

YES!!


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[SavetheQueen]

I'm hearing that old song, "the night the lights went out in Georgia" when I think along these lines.. one reason you wouldn't want FBI help is if local LE has some things to hide? But thinking this just my imagination.

But seriously, for a few days now I feel like this one's going to blow wide open any minute now

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If MC didn't leave on his own, I feel the same. I feel like the Sheriff himself is more aware of what's going on than is being put out there. That "thin blue line" wraps around pretty darn tight. And that's including all first responders.

And I feel like it's about to blow open any day now, too.


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[jellybean96]

If MC didn't leave on his own, I feel the same. I feel like the Sheriff himself is more aware of what's going on than is being put out there. That "thin blue line" wraps around pretty darn tight. And that's including all first responders.

And I feel like it's about to blow open any day now, too.


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Yes! There is no way, in my mind, EVERYONE at the sheriff's office is just sitting on their hands. They are doing something, they know something - even if it isn't evident to everyone. There is no way everyone there just going to let PaPaw disappear without investigating. No way. These men are on the front lines together serving the community. They aren't going to just twiddle their thumbs and not get to the bottom of this.

I agree, I think this case is about to blow open.

 

[SavetheQueen]

Yes! There is no way, in my mind, EVERYONE at the sheriff's office is just sitting on their hands. They are doing something, they know something - even if it isn't evident to everyone. There is no way everyone there just going to let PaPaw disappear without investigating. No way. These men are on the front lines together serving the community. They aren't going to just twiddle their thumbs and not get to the bottom of this.

I agree, I think this case is about to blow open.

This. [emoji1375]


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[roadrunnermt]

Yes! There is no way, in my mind, EVERYONE at the sheriff's office is just sitting on their hands. They are doing something, they know something - even if it isn't evident to everyone. There is no way everyone there just going to let PaPaw disappear without investigating. No way. These men are on the front lines together serving the community. They aren't going to just twiddle their thumbs and not get to the bottom of this.

I agree, I think this case is about to blow open.

I'm so glad to see some of yall have confidence! I dont. I totally disagree. It's disheartening seeing they way the family is not getting info or responses out of them. Even if it is we have nothing new, the family deserves a little contact every now and then.

I think they are stuck with nothing new and won't ask for help out of a control issue and hoping to solve this eventually themselves but Sheriff should excuse himself. I totally hope I am wrong.

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[LaneGirl]

I'm so glad to see some of yall have confidence! I dont. I totally disagree. It's disheartening seeing they way the family is not getting info or responses out of them. Even if it is we have nothing new, the family deserves a little contact every now and then.

I think they are stuck with nothing new and won't ask for help out of a control issue and hoping to solve this eventually themselves but Sheriff should excuse himself. I totally hope I am wrong.

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I see what you are saying and its certainly true in some cases where LE messed up and maybe in this case. I do wish they would at least explain to the family why they won't class it as criminal. In fact I'm not sure why they wouldn't? It is odd for sure and doesn't make sense unless 1. they really know something and have leads they are working 2. they messed up (this usually comes to light evenutally).

Although I don't see it in this case at all there is a thought in other cases...

what if LE found something in the phone records between husband and wife that is suspicious (because the spouse is always looked at first). They have enough to believe something suspicious but not enough to arrest. They have to keep this information from family members in order to gather enough evidence or wait on the spouse to "slip up". Perhaps its not even the spouse it's a close family/friend. LE can't give away anything so that family/friend doesn't get tipped off?

Again I'm not saying this is the case here but I understand why sometimes LE has to keep things quiet.

And let me reiterate that the above is a hypothetical and not what I believe in this case!

 

[SavetheQueen]

On the subject of classifying the case as criminal or not, let's play devil's advocate.

Where are the criminal elements? What evidence is there that points to an actual crime being committed? Remember - it's not against the law to disappear by your own free wheel. Not saying that is the case, just clarifying that it isn't a crime. What facts in this case point to anything criminal?

Personally, I'm on the fence about which way to classify it with the facts that we currently have.


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[knowthings]

Very few really, blood on floor and dowel, could have been accident, well really not anything.


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