Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 #5

[stjrussell]

17 miles at 2.5 miles per hour would be almost 7 hours.......not possible. Sheriff Meeks didn't do his math! Thank you Midge Montana for pointing this out! I was going by google maps at 1.5 to 2 hours. That would have put him at the bridge with 5 o'clock traffic.I just don't see this as a plausible scenario. I am on the fence with suicide. Learned that lesson on the Leanne Bearden thread.

Are there any locals who know if a jump off the bridge would kill someone? It doesn't look that far down.

So if it would have taken hi roughly 7 hours to ride a bike to that location, what time are they saying his phone last pinged there? If he arrived home that afternoon from Walmart... seems very suspicious to me, IMO.

 

[SavetheQueen]

Yes, I believe MC was depressed. And I feel he probably suffered from it long before this happened.

Why is it so hard to view BC as being unhappy too? I suspect she was battling depression too what with the affairs and drinking.

I'm sympathetic to both of them.
I think they both had been miserable
for a while.

Why is it everyone is so set on this being a planned murder set up by the "evil wife/stepmother"? I have not seen any credible evidence supporting that.

Did he commit suicide? I can't say.
Maybe he rode his bike to the bridge and threw the phone over the railing and kept on pedaling on to a better
and happier life. That's what I'd like to think.

Was he murdered? No. There is no evidence supporting that. Only loose tongues (mine included) perpetuating that theory.


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Because all of her actions before and after he disappeared leads to her doing something to get him out of the picture. Either by her own hand, or by getting someone else to do it. There’s so much more to this case than we can talk about here. From all evidence, she was a drinking, partying woman of extremely loose morals when he met her. That’s how they met. And it doesn’t look like much has changed in 35 years now. It’s going to be a surprise if unbelievable magnitude if she isn’t guilty, at least by association, of the disappearance of her husband. The saying, “Follow the money.” If you do, every single road leads back to her.


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[Razz]

Because all of her actions before and after he disappeared leads to her doing something to get him out of the picture. Either by her own hand, or by getting someone else to do it. There’s so much more to this case than we can talk about here. From all evidence, she was a drinking, partying woman of extremely loose morals when he met her. That’s how they met. And it doesn’t look like much has changed in 35 years now. It’s going to be a surprise if unbelievable magnitude if she isn’t guilty, at least by association, of the disappearance of her husband. The saying, “Follow the money.” If you do, every single road leads back to her.


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If you're going to convict BC of being immoral because she was out partying and drinking when she met MC, then I guess you'll need to convict MC as well.
After all, he was married at the time.
She wasn't.

I know (partially) what another site was saying and that's why I could no longer be a part of it. It was appalling and it was even more appalling that the "owners" of the thread allowed it.

I think getting to know the family and commiserating with them can be a
slippery slope. I find it's a quick way to lose objectivity.

I'll gladly look at any new evidence that arises but I'm no longer going to be part of the rumor mongering.



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[alwaysonmymind]

There is NO way Papaw walked or rode a bike and jumped in the lake.

He would’ve passed by stores, gas stations, restaurants, bait and tackle shops and the WEST TAWAKONI POLICE DEPARTMENT completely unnoticed. No way. IMO

Meeks should be ashamed of himself for this latest outburst.


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[SavetheQueen]

If you're going to convict BC of being immoral because she was out partying and drinking when she met MC, then I guess you'll need to convict MC as well.
After all, he was married at the time.
She wasn't.

I know (partially) what another site was saying and that's why I could no longer be a part of it. It was appalling and it was even more appalling that the "owners" of the thread allowed it.

I think getting to know the family and commiserating with them can be a
slippery slope. I find it's a quick way to lose objectivity.

I'll gladly look at any new evidence that arises but I'm no longer going to be part of the rumor mongering.


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You asked a question, and I answered it. Nobody said that he wasn’t guilty of some immoral behavior, or anything else. And there’s more to this case than Facebook and WS, so please don’t assume that some of us are “commiserating” or “being part of the rumor mongering”. Some of us genuinely care about this case, and have done independent extensive research on many, many things, so we’re aware of what is legitimate, and what is false. That’s what I mean by there is so much more to this case. But you asked a question, and I answered it. Have a blessed day. [emoji846]



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[Razz]

You asked a question, and I answered it. Nobody said that he wasn’t guilty of some immoral behavior, or anything else. And there’s more to this case than Facebook and WS, so please don’t assume that some of us are “commiserating” or “being part of the rumor mongering”. Some of us genuinely care about this case, and have done independent extensive research on many, many things, so we’re aware of what is legitimate, and what is false. That’s what I mean by there is so much more to this case. But you asked a question, and I answered it. Have a blessed day. [emoji846]



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Thank you for the blessings. I'll take whatever I can get. [emoji6]

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[kidetect22]

Yes, I believe MC was depressed. And I feel he probably suffered from it long before this happened.

Why is it so hard to view BC as being unhappy too? I suspect she was battling depression too what with the affairs and drinking.

I'm sympathetic to both of them.
I think they both had been miserable
for a while.

Why is it everyone is so set on this being a planned murder set up by the "evil wife/stepmother"? I have not seen any credible evidence supporting that.

Did he commit suicide? I can't say.
Maybe he rode his bike to the bridge and threw the phone over the railing and kept on pedaling on to a better
and happier life. That's what I'd like to think.

Was he murdered? No. There is no evidence supporting that. Only loose tongues (mine included) perpetuating that theory.







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Throwing this out there razz- no evidence of murder because LE didn’t do their job from the jump! Just saying .... majority of the evidence was overlooked and now you can’t get it back unfortunately.... IMO

 

[Razz]

Throwing this out there razz- no evidence of murder because LE didn’t do their job from the jump! Just saying .... majority of the evidence was overlooked and now you can’t get it back unfortunately.... IMO

I'm not asking any of you to stop looking for evidence. If you think he was murdered...then you should, by all means, continue.

If you go back and read some of my responses, beginning after the loan they took out came to the forefront, it has/had given me a whole new perspective.

I took the very unpopular stance that I think MC was depressed. I look at their ages, the debt on cars and the garage and it makes me depressed. (And who knows what other problems there were.)

After all is said and done, BC isn't going to net much. I'd be surprised if she gets the asking price for the house. It's going to take a particular person to want to buy it. Then there are realtor fees and the loan she'll need to pay off. After that, she'll have to leave half of that to MC's estate.

The person that had the most to lose was MC. Especially had they divorced or separated.

I do have remaining questions but it's not about anyone's culpability.

I need to take a step back for awhile.
I'm sorry, but right now, I'm just not on the same wave length as some of my fellow Web Sluethers.

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[texanGirl]

There has been a lot said lately about the cell phone data after the phone left the house at 2:30pm on the day MC went missing. I wonder what the data shows from the time he left walmart until 2:30pm?

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[JazzTune]

I'm not asking any of you to stop looking for evidence. If you think he was murdered...then you should, by all means, continue.

If you go back and read some of my responses, beginning after the loan they took out came to the forefront, it has/had given me a whole new perspective.

I took the very unpopular stance that I think MC was depressed. I look at their ages, the debt on cars and the garage and it makes me depressed. (And who knows what other problems there were.)

After all is said and done, BC isn't going to net much. I'd be surprised if she gets the asking price for the house. It's going to take a particular person to want to buy it. Then there are realtor fees and the loan she'll need to pay off. After that, she'll have to leave half of that to MC's estate.

The person that had the most to lose was MC. Especially had they divorced or separated.

I do have remaining questions but it's not about anyone's culpability.

I need to take a step back for awhile.
I'm sorry, but right now, I'm just not on the same wave length as some of my fellow Web Sluethers.

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Please don't take a step back! Please don't feel like you have to be on the same wave length with anyone else. This is how we all learn from each other. By hearing differing thoughts and opinions.

Wouldn't be much to think about if we all thought the same thing, and moved in lockstep with each other.

Just because we all may not agree does not mean that any of us should leave.

You bring compassion and heart, and a keen intellect. We need you here, Razz!

Even if we don't have the same views, that's even more reason why I want to hear yours. ( I already know mine. Nothing I can learn there. Lol...)

So, please don't step back because of that. If you're just worn out, I think we can all understand that feeling. But don't leave because we're not all on the same wave length...

 

[Razz]

Please don't take a step back! Please don't feel like you have to be on the same wave length with anyone else. This is how we all learn from each other. By hearing differing thoughts and opinions.

Wouldn't be much to think about if we all thought the same thing, and moved in lockstep with each other.

Just because we all may not agree does not mean that any of us should leave.

You bring compassion and heart, and a keen intellect. We need you here, Razz!

Even if we don't have the same views, that's even more reason why I want to hear yours. ( I already know mine. Nothing I can learn there. Lol...)

So, please don't step back because of that. If you're just worn out, I think we can all understand that feeling. But don't leave because we're not all on the same wave length...

Thanks Jazztune- I'm just worn out and upset (and depressed) for everyone in this case.[emoji22] I'll keep peeping in, though.

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[Nosy88]

I wonder if Meeks got the depressed diagnosis from MC’s doctor. I get down a quite a bit. A doctor has never diagnosed me as being depressed and I’m not suicidal. That’s a pretty strong term to use about a person without a degree. Especially if you’re saying your own diagnosis caused that person to commit suicide. Down, upset, angry and fed up are different from being depressed to the extent of suicidal.


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[kidetect22]

I wonder if Meeks got the depressed diagnosis from MC’s doctor. I get down a quite a bit. A doctor has never diagnosed me as being depressed and I’m not suicidal. That’s a pretty strong term to use about a person without a degree. Especially if you’re saying your own diagnosis caused that person to commit suicide. Down, upset, angry and fed up are different from being depressed to the extent of suicidal.


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Exactly how I feel- he shouldn’t make a claim of depression if there is no evidence of it. Worn out, pissed off- but why after a year is this now being said ??!! Wouldn’t you check things over with his doctor in the beginning- I mean god forbid, but what is MC was just diagnosed with a terrrible, non treatable cancer and he felt it would be easier to just go away and live life to the fullest without anyone to answer too?! I mean, how do we know!!!! How does Meeks no? Why would BC never say these things to clear her? She hasn’t said much ever. To me that speaks volumes! Sorry!!! IMO

 

[kidetect22]

Exactly how I feel- he shouldn’t make a claim of depression if there is no evidence of it. Worn out, pissed off- but why after a year is this now being said ??!! Wouldn’t you check things over with his doctor in the beginning- I mean god forbid, but what is MC was just diagnosed with a terrrible, non treatable cancer and he felt it would be easier to just go away and live life to the fullest without anyone to answer too?! I mean, how do we know!!!! How does Meeks no? Why would BC never say these things to clear her? She hasn’t said much ever. To me that speaks volumes! Sorry!!! IMO

Adding to this that my grammar and spelling skills are at 0 today from the simple fact I’m typing to fast while bolting off to the next child’s sporting event! Lol just ignore the ridiculousness !

 

[SavetheQueen]

Thank you for the blessings. I'll take whatever I can get. [emoji6]

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Of course! Any time!


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[SavetheQueen]

This may be of some interest:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/08/02/how-tech-tracks-missing-people.html

How tech tracks missing people

The case of missing Oregon mom Jennifer Huston has shone a spotlight on technology’s crucial role in locating missing people -- as well its limitations.

While cellphone location technologies can quickly find people, the trail effectively ends when a device is out of power.

Communications expert John B. Minor, who is based in Odessa, Texas and who has assisted in suspected murder cases and attempts to locate lost hikers, describes the scenario as a race against time. “If the battery is exhausted, there is no general tracking,” he told FoxNews.com.

Huston, a 38-year-old mother of two, was last seen on a surveillance camera leaving a gas station in the Portland suburb of Newberg on July 24, prompting a massive search.

Capt. Jeff Kosmicki of the Newberg-Dundee Police Department told FoxNews.com that the last cellphone tower pinged by Huston’s phone was north of the gas station. Her phone shut off at approximately 6.35pm, although investigators don’t know if the battery died or the phone was turned off.

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[cooksheila]

Don't say much here but if you take the cell data to any value it would have taken atleast a hour and half if he were riding a bike so that's after 4, with no stops and constant pedaling.Back then it would have gotten dark early. I looked at Google Earth and wondered "where he would be going" because I don't believe him through himself he the Lake just the phone. I saw something weird on my computer screen, It was at a cemetery (sorry) Hooker Ridge Cemetery. There is woods behind the cemetery. Im not from there so I have no idea how thick the woods are, if people visit often, etc. It just was weird, the icon on Google Maps and the saying attached to it. Also the name of the cemetery. Just trying to think outside the box. Doesn't mean I think he committed suicide either. The icon said "An Unrepentant sinner. Tom M Cain, Pvt Co. H-11 Reg." when I put the pointer over it.

 

[nannymo]

( BBM )

Good post and I agree with much of what you've written here. But I have questions in my mind about the sheriff and the sincerity of his beliefs. I still don't think we're getting the whole story.

I'm not necessarily talking about confidential investigative details either, but the overall way the whole case has been handled. I still don't see how he can justify the lack of investigation into so many areas of this case.

I thought he was very defensive throughout the interview. You nailed it when you said he seemed belligerent toward the interviewer and nervous. You're right too. He had nothing nice to say about Suzy or the P.I.

Some of his comments about them even bordered on veiled personal attacks in my opinion. Not called for at all.

I also did not care one bit for the jocular mood he seemed intent on establishing in the beginning.

I didn't find any of it funny....


JMO

I agree with you wholeheartedly! i don't trust him either. Naming all the people who are talking trash about him and attacking the reporter!

Did you hear him say he called the family to apologize for throwing the depression out there? But later said the family knew he was depressed and it was no surprise? I'm going to re-listen and find his exact words. I think he contradicted himself.

 

[nannymo]

I'm curious as to what details the radio station in Commerce has that Meeks feels were leaked to them and why they prevent him from giving them an interview.

I got the feeling he was implying they obtained that information illegally somehow and he wasn't going to respond because they were not reliable. In reality, he doesn't want to talk to anyone on the record who can come back and hold him accountable......JMO

 

[nannymo]

I agree with you wholeheartedly! i don't trust him either. Naming all the people who are talking trash about him and attacking the reporter!

Did you hear him say he called the family to apologize for throwing the depression out there? But later said the family knew he was depressed and it was no surprise? I'm going to re-listen and find his exact words. I think he contradicted himself.

Sorry to quote myself but I found what I was thinking about!
https://www.facebook.com/HuntCountyTheftReports/videos/1765073170222036/

At 11:30 into the video they start talking about suicide.

At 12:00 Sheriff Meeks says "There is some evidence I will say that the family is well aware of. We have been very transparent with the family from day 1. They know everything we know. This theory of suicide was no surprise to the family. Now they may say it was, but it's not. I promise you that."

Then at 22:00 the reporter asks him..."Should you not have come out with opinions and stuck to hard core facts?

Sheriff Meeks responds: "I did come out with evidence. I should not have said he committed suicide without contacting the family first. I have contacted the family. I have a call into Suzy...she has not returned my call. I've talked to John Chambers and apologized-again-this is no surprise to the family."

If no surprise, why call and apologize?