Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 *found deceased 2023* #8

[flute4peace]

It's gotten awfully quiet again. I was really hoping the Klein statement would set some balls rolling.

 

[truetexan]

bumping

 

[CrimewatcherGrandma]

Does anyone know if the K9 is experienced or fresh out of training?

First post but I have been following a long time. The dogs are very experienced. I got excited when I was watching on the ID channel and it showed Tracy and her dogs (Chance) hunting for missing Kelly Nash from Buford, GA. Missing in Jan. 2015. All 3 dogs hit on 1 dock and he was later found in that lake quite near to the dock. I have found several articles about different searches.

 

[CrimewatcherGrandma]

I watched this show after I knew about Tracy and Chance being on MC's case so you can imagine my excitement.

 

[sassyblue]

Welcome CrimewatcherGrandma!

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

It's gotten awfully quiet again. I was really hoping the Klein statement would set some balls rolling.

same. What gives?

 

[CrimewatcherGrandma]

Thank you. Glad to be here.

 

[RuthSleuth]

Bump

 

[Tripod]

I watched this show after I knew about Tracy and Chance being on MC's case so you can imagine my excitement.

Glad you've joined us on Papaw's thread, CrimewatcherGrandma!

Thank you for answering the question about the dogs' experience!

 

[Tripod]

I've had a few questions re: the cadaver dog's "hit" at MC's residence/property. This is not a long article, but it certainly dampens my excitement. I will look at more articles, but I thought this one was pretty relevant to the questions I have. More educated people hopefully will chime in!
Can you trust a cadaver dog if there's no cadaver?

 

[CrimewatcherGrandma]

Thanks for the article Tripod. I read a few myself that were more assuring than this one, some finding results after 30 years. Maybe I can find it again and figure out how to upload on here. Lol I am a Grandma! I did notice that this article was written in 2007 and that does seem like a long time in our advancing world. Maybe I just want to "hope"!

 

[Tripod]

Thanks for the article Tripod. I read a few myself that were more assuring than this one, some finding results after 30 years. Maybe I can find it again and figure out how to upload on here. Lol I am a Grandma! I did notice that this article was written in 2007 and that does seem like a long time in our advancing world. Maybe I just want to "hope"!

Yup- that article was from 11 years ago. I will read more and it'd be great if you could link one you found Never fear, though! We have many very good "linkers" around here, so if you can't, or I don't get to it, someone else may.

 

[Dallen]

I just stumbled on this case after catching the Disappeared episode this weekend. I’ve seen them all numerous times but somehow hadn’t seen this one or seen this case pop up here on WS. Looks like I have a lot of catching up to do.....

 

[ocgrad]

Thanks for the article Tripod. I read a few myself that were more assuring than this one, some finding results after 30 years. Maybe I can find it again and figure out how to upload on here. Lol I am a Grandma! I did notice that this article was written in 2007 and that does seem like a long time in our advancing world. Maybe I just want to "hope"!

There are several articles that state Luminol can detect blood in soil up to 6 years. Some say 8 years even. I imagine if blood remains viable in soil that decomposition gases and materials may as well.

 

[ocgrad]

There are several articles that state Luminol can detect blood in soil up to 6 years. Some say 8 years even. I imagine if blood remains viable in soil that decomposition gases and materials may as well.

This is a good article about how even as blood goes away from the top service it remains in the soil years later. I wish when the dogs hit that first day on the culvert that they had tested the area with luminol.

 

[ocgrad]

This is a good article about how even as blood goes away from the top service it remains in the soil years later. I wish when the dogs hit that first day on the culvert that they had tested the area with luminol.

This article states that dogs are often used in detecting crime scenes long after the crime occurred. That's really hopeful. Will they get a SW for his pickup? At first I thought there was surely no reason, that the blood or scent would have been removed from a hard surface, but now I think there could be even a spec of blood or body fluid, a dog will find it.

 

[Tripod]

I just stumbled on this case after catching the Disappeared episode this weekend. I’ve seen them all numerous times but somehow hadn’t seen this one or seen this case pop up here on WS. Looks like I have a lot of catching up to do.....

Welcome to the thread, Dallen! I am so glad more people are popping into Papaw's case. It's a puzzler that has gripped the hearts and minds of many beyond his heartbroken family.

 

[Tripod]

I do think it most likely a perp used a pickup truck to remove MC from his home, but I'm not so sure M/C's own truck was used for that, unless the perp/s arrived in a car, altercation happened, they realized it'd be really difficult to get MC, a big man, into said car. Used the truck for that but if it was used, they could not have driven it too far due to the timeline that we do have.
I still think there is a possibility there wasn't a planned homicide ( and we need to keep in mind LE has never officially called this case that) and something happened during an argument.

 

[mpnola]

Speaking of luminol... was it used in the shop? To see if an area was cleaned or a body print seen?

 

[ocgrad]

Speaking of luminol... was it used in the shop? To see if an area was cleaned or a body print seen?

I don't think we have a clear answer on that.